Vegan alternative to Hermes evelyne?

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I have an Evelyne and I love it. You may be able to find the Evelyne in Amazonia rubber at resale - they exist- however as you probably know Amazonia has cracking issues. Still, it's an Hermès vegan option.
I am doing a lot of looking into Hermès from an ethical standpoint as I too have issues with wearing leather.
Good luck with your search!
 
I have an Evelyne and I love it. You may be able to find the Evelyne in Amazonia rubber at resale - they exist- however as you probably know Amazonia has cracking issues. Still, it's an Hermès vegan option.
I am doing a lot of looking into Hermès from an ethical standpoint as I too have issues with wearing leather.
Good luck with your search!


Thanks. So how are you feeling with Hermes leather? Are you going to keep purchasing Hermes? I feel like that would just be easier. I wish these brands would recognize the demand for options and come up with other material options.
 
I have an Evelyne and I love it. You may be able to find the Evelyne in Amazonia rubber at resale - they exist- however as you probably know Amazonia has cracking issues. Still, it's an Hermès vegan option.
I am doing a lot of looking into Hermès from an ethical standpoint as I too have issues with wearing leather.
Good luck with your search!


I have heard of Amazonia. In the past I stayed away do to the cracking but maybe that is the way to go. The Evelyne is just the perfect mom bag.
 
I'm a vegetarian and a huge animal lover. BUT. There's a few issues with vegan leather (also known as polyurethane but highly romanticized by sales people who came up with the term "vegan leather") which is why I now stick to fabric or real leather.

First off, cowhide and pigskin is widely available because of beef, pork and milk production. This precious material needs to be utilised to full extent. Let's face it, meat is always going to be eaten and the hides are going to keep piling up.

Second, producing synthetic materials means two things; resources, usually and mostly oil, is used for something other than energy production. It's clear we are going to run out of oil at some point, but if we waste as little as possible, it will last a bit longer. Also, the production process of PU etc needs a lot of energy and there's a massive amount of pollution as a result.

Third, leather lasts longer. Most PU products will need to be replaced sooner than a similar product made of leather. This means the circle goes on - more raw material, more energy, more pollution.

A great option for anyone concerned with our planet's future and the way we leave it to our children is a veg tanned leather bag. Mulberry has great ones, as does Lumi and many, many others.
 
I'm a vegetarian and a huge animal lover. BUT. There's a few issues with vegan leather (also known as polyurethane but highly romanticized by sales people who came up with the term "vegan leather") which is why I now stick to fabric or real leather.



First off, cowhide and pigskin is widely available because of beef, pork and milk production. This precious material needs to be utilised to full extent. Let's face it, meat is always going to be eaten and the hides are going to keep piling up.



Second, producing synthetic materials means two things; resources, usually and mostly oil, is used for something other than energy production. It's clear we are going to run out of oil at some point, but if we waste as little as possible, it will last a bit longer. Also, the production process of PU etc needs a lot of energy and there's a massive amount of pollution as a result.



Third, leather lasts longer. Most PU products will need to be replaced sooner than a similar product made of leather. This means the circle goes on - more raw material, more energy, more pollution.



A great option for anyone concerned with our planet's future and the way we leave it to our children is a veg tanned leather bag. Mulberry has great ones, as does Lumi and many, many others.


Thank you. This is always my issue. Never sure which is worse. I think you are right. I think I may be sticking to leather and canvas/linen. I don't buy plastic toys for my kids or plastic kitchen items so it seems odd I would think to buy plastic bags and shoes. There are just not enough natural non leather materials being used unless I am willing to walk around with a canvas tote all the time And I go a lot of places where that would not be appropriate. I think I will just be buying the evelyne. This bag has been about a year coming..that I have been thinking I should get it and then kept getting distracted with Chanel bags.
 
Thanks. So how are you feeling with Hermes leather? Are you going to keep purchasing Hermes? I feel like that would just be easier. I wish these brands would recognize the demand for options and come up with other material options.
Well, I have looked into Hermès's environmental practices and use of labor in the developing world and I am pretty satisfied. The "slow fashion" nature of the brand is a good way to work in the world. So animal treatment is my main concern.
I can accept leather as a by-product of people eating meat, but that is not always the case. My biggest concern with Hermès is the use of calfskin - most leathers are veau - as that implies either the support of veal consumption or the killing of young calves just for skins, or both. If these leathers support the old method of veal raising I will stop buying them. I haven't been able to get any information from the various H tanneries. Please PM me if you know more than I do!
 
I'm a vegetarian and a huge animal lover. BUT. There's a few issues with vegan leather (also known as polyurethane but highly romanticized by sales people who came up with the term "vegan leather") which is why I now stick to fabric or real leather.

First off, cowhide and pigskin is widely available because of beef, pork and milk production. This precious material needs to be utilised to full extent. Let's face it, meat is always going to be eaten and the hides are going to keep piling up.

Second, producing synthetic materials means two things; resources, usually and mostly oil, is used for something other than energy production. It's clear we are going to run out of oil at some point, but if we waste as little as possible, it will last a bit longer. Also, the production process of PU etc needs a lot of energy and there's a massive amount of pollution as a result.

Third, leather lasts longer. Most PU products will need to be replaced sooner than a similar product made of leather. This means the circle goes on - more raw material, more energy, more pollution.

A great option for anyone concerned with our planet's future and the way we leave it to our children is a veg tanned leather bag. Mulberry has great ones, as does Lumi and many, many others.
Yes, I agree with this. Plastic is no better for the earth and its production is cruel to everything living. Fortunately the EU is much more strict than the US or most Asian countries in regulating leather tanning, so European leather tends to be reasonably earth-friendly. It's a complicated ethical choice and I haven't settled either direction but I will certainly keep learning about various brands' practices.
I am not Buddha enough to wear only natural plant fibers on my feet and my bags yet :p
 
Yes, I agree with this. Plastic is no better for the earth and its production is cruel to everything living. Fortunately the EU is much more strict than the US or most Asian countries in regulating leather tanning, so European leather tends to be reasonably earth-friendly. It's a complicated ethical choice and I haven't settled either direction but I will certainly keep learning about various brands' practices.
I am not Buddha enough to wear only natural plant fibers on my feet and my bags yet :p


I am not Buddha enough either. Lol. :)
 
Last week I watched a TV programme about crocodile and reptile skins
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The animals are killed just... to make bags for high end companies.
I have a collection of old vintage croc bags.
After seeing the programme I can tell you that I will stay away from croc or python bags for the rest of my life!
 
The animals are killed just... to make bags for high end companies.
I have a collection of old vintage croc bags.
After seeing the programme I can tell you that I will stay away from croc or python bags for the rest of my life!


I probably don't even have to see it. They look to much like skin to me. I wouldn't be able to stop thinking about it. I had some vintage Gucci snakeskin bracelets I sold a few years ago because they grossed me out. That was the first time I tried to go leather free, about three years ago. I just always get so conflicting: dead animal or nasty toxins.....I really don't know my answer yet. Every time I think I do I change my mind.
 
I probably don't even have to see it. They look to much like skin to me. I wouldn't be able to stop thinking about it. I had some vintage Gucci snakeskin bracelets I sold a few years ago because they grossed me out. That was the first time I tried to go leather free, about three years ago. I just always get so conflicting: dead animal or nasty toxins.....I really don't know my answer yet. Every time I think I do I change my mind.


The programme was so devastating that lots of people said they would go vegan after seeing it.
We even learnt there was porc in toothpaste.
Animal products are everywhere....
 
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