VCA ~ Van Cleef Arpels Discussion thread!

[dessert1st]

That looks great on you. The only reason you would want to go bigger is if you were to wear other bangles with it because they will definitely go over the small size. It looks like there is enough room for movement so your decision is more about how it feels on your wrist if that is the wrist you are going to wear it on. Think about whether you prefer a slim fit or if you prefer a larger bangle look.

Oh oh, I just remembered something: Do your wrists swell up a little during the summer/ in warmer climates? That might be something to think about.

I have noticed that my fingers swell up more in the heat than my wrist does. I really do not notice if my wrist swells.

, I'd meant that for dessert1st. I quoted your reply bc I agree with what you said abt whether she'd prefer a slim fit or a more loose bangle.

ChanelLisette, Thank you so much for your thoughts. I really appreciate it!!! And interesting to know that your fingers swell but not your wrists. Hmmm...
Phoenix123, Thanks to you too! I can't say that I have noticed what my wrists do in the summer. I've never analyzed. And where I live it hasn't been warm enough yet to observe.

Chanel and Phoenix, Okay, but here is something I did last week to help me think it through. I know Cartier and VCA are different jewelry houses even though ultimately both Richemont. But I thought this might help me. Don't know if either of you own Love bracelets but I went to look at the Cartier Love bracelets (which I don't own any nor really tried on before) to see if their sizings would help me observe the size differences, especially since they offer Love bracelets in different cm sizes in increments of 1 cm. It seems in the Love I am a 16 cm. THEN, I tried on the 17 cm size, and the Love was too big. The 17 cm was loose enough to spin on my wrist. The SA said he would not recommend a Love size that would do that. While I know the bangle shapes may differ some between VCA and Cartier, I found that kinda interesting. He also commented that the ideal Love size should have a range movement on the wrist quite like the range of what the perlee clover small had on my wrist. Hmmm... maybe the small is okay then? The small fits acceptably nice on my left hand which means I may have to just accept that I will have to wear the bracelet on it almost exclusively.

Would love to know how people compare the Love sizes with their pearly clover.

Thank you to all who have helped me through this decision. I really do appreciate it.

 

[kewave]

ChanelLisette, Thank you so much for your thoughts. I really appreciate it!!! And interesting to know that your fingers swell but not your wrists. Hmmm...
Phoenix123, Thanks to you too! I can't say that I have noticed what my wrists do in the summer. I've never analyzed. And where I live it hasn't been warm enough yet to observe.

Chanel and Phoenix, Okay, but here is something I did last week to help me think it through. I know Cartier and VCA are different jewelry houses even though ultimately both Richemont. But I thought this might help me. Don't know if either of you own Love bracelets but I went to look at the Cartier Love bracelets (which I don't own any nor really tried on before) to see if their sizings would help me observe the size differences, especially since they offer Love bracelets in different cm sizes in increments of 1 cm. It seems in the Love I am a 16 cm. THEN, I tried on the 17 cm size, and the Love was too big. The 17 cm was loose enough to spin on my wrist. The SA said he would not recommend a Love size that would do that. While I know the bangle shapes may differ some between VCA and Cartier, I found that kinda interesting. He also commented that the ideal Love size should have a range movement on the wrist quite like the range of what the perlee clover small had on my wrist. Hmmm... maybe the small is okay then? The small fits acceptably nice on my left hand which means I may have to just accept that I will have to wear the bracelet on it almost exclusively.

Would love to know how people compare the Love sizes with their pearly clover.

Thank you to all who have helped me through this decision. I really do appreciate it.

Cartier sizing provides more options and flexibility with incremental of 1cm. Unfortunately, standard VCA Perlee bracelet only comes in 3 sizes. The difference between size S and M is huge (definitely more than 1cm difference). I'm a size 16 for Cartier Love and find VCA Perlee size S too snug and size M way too big on me. So I have crossed this item out of my wishlist as I'm reluctant to pay a premium for customization. Perhaps in a few years from now, VCA may come up with a size in between S & M (Cartier later launched size 15 for JUC & Thin Love, this size is unavailable for classic Love which is older). So at the mean time, I will enjoy my 1 and only Cartier Rose Gold Diamond JUC in size 15

Having said that, the size S Perlee bracelet in your modeling pic looks perfect on you. Its a bangle technically so it shouldn't be loose like the fluid VCA alhambra bracelet. Too loose will not look good at all and more prone to scratches/knocks/risk getting caught on something.

 

[Phoenix123]

Cartier sizing provides more options and flexibility with incremental of 1cm. Unfortunately, standard VCA Perlee bracelet only comes in 3 sizes. The difference between size S and M is huge (definitely more than 1cm difference). I'm a size 16 for Cartier Love and find VCA Perlee size S too snug and size M way too big on me. So I have crossed this item out of my wishlist as I'm reluctant to pay a premium for customization. Perhaps in a few years from now, VCA may come up with a size in between S & M (Cartier later launched size 15 for JUC & Thin Love, this size is unavailable for classic Love which is older). So at the mean time, I will enjoy my 1 and only Cartier Rose Gold Diamond JUC in size 15

Having said that, the size S Perlee bracelet in your modeling pic looks perfect on you. Its a bangle technically so it shouldn't be loose like the fluid VCA alhambra bracelet. Too loose will not look good at all and more prone to scratches/knocks/risk getting caught on something.

Dessert1st, I agree with most of what's written here.

I have both the Perlee Clover and the Loves (I have 2 Loves in fact). The VCA Perlee is much preferred to me, fit-wise, due to its smaller size and more rectangular shape (the shape is better for my flat/ non-round wrists). As you know, the Love is a bit looser and is more oval-shaped. But I didn't/ don't have much choice over the size or shape of the Loves. I love both my Perlee and my Loves, but I wish the Love would come smaller.

It's hard for anyone looking at your pics to tell you if you should go for the small Perlee, TBH. YOU'd have to decide if it feels comfy enough for you. Also, people vary in terms of how they like their bracelets to fit, some like theirs to fit snug whereas others prefer theirs more loose. Some people would even say the Perlee is still loose on me but I think it's a perfect fit for me. If in doubt, don't! It's far too much money not to be sure. You could buy it and wear it for a couple of days to see how it feels. Buy the Perlee Clover ONLY if you're certain VCA would accept it back for a full refund (does your VCA do refunds?).

 

[jssl1688]

I have a similar problem with falling in-between sizing. A while back when I was deciding between the perlee and the love, I found the sizing of the perlee to be of a bigger range from small to med vs lb.

The first time I purchased yg lb in size 17 due to the fact that 16 would make it uncomfortable around my wrist bone. However, 17 lb gets too loose around my forearm area, where as 16 fits best. The second time, I got the yg dia lb and I wanted to get 16 and make it work but tried it on and once again had the same problem so went with 17.

One of the main reasons why I decided on the lb is because when I tried on signature and clover perlee, the med size was actually slightly bigger than 17 lb. I already find the lb too big, so the med perlee made it more uncomfortable. Then I tried the small perlee and it was too small.

Hubby now says, maybe I should get a pave lb 16 and it would fit perfectly cause there's no screw inside the bracelet. I still long for the clover but really am reluctant on the size and no way am I going to pay extra to special order it. I am planning on going to the boutique this week or next to look at juc and pave lb. will try to take some pics.

 

[HADASSA]

I have a similar problem with falling in-between sizing. A while back when I was deciding between the perlee and the love, I found the sizing of the perlee to be of a bigger range from small to med vs lb.

The first time I purchased yg lb in size 17 due to the fact that 16 would make it uncomfortable around my wrist bone. However, 17 lb gets too loose around my forearm area, where as 16 fits best. The second time, I got the yg dia lb and I wanted to get 16 and make it work but tried it on and once again had the same problem so went with 17.

One of the main reasons why I decided on the lb is because when I tried on signature and clover perlee, the med size was actually slightly bigger than 17 lb. I already find the lb too big, so the med perlee made it more uncomfortable. Then I tried the small perlee and it was too small.

Hubby now says, maybe I should get a pave lb 16 and it would fit perfectly cause there's no screw inside the bracelet. I still long for the clover but really am reluctant on the size and no way am I going to pay extra to special order it. I am planning on going to the boutique this week or next to look at juc and pave lb. will try to take some pics.

I think the new thin Pave L[emoji173]️VE might be nice - at a better price point too [emoji1360]

 

[LisetteEsq]

ChanelLisette, Thank you so much for your thoughts. I really appreciate it!!! And interesting to know that your fingers swell but not your wrists. Hmmm...
Phoenix123, Thanks to you too! I can't say that I have noticed what my wrists do in the summer. I've never analyzed. And where I live it hasn't been warm enough yet to observe.

Chanel and Phoenix, Okay, but here is something I did last week to help me think it through. I know Cartier and VCA are different jewelry houses even though ultimately both Richemont. But I thought this might help me. Don't know if either of you own Love bracelets but I went to look at the Cartier Love bracelets (which I don't own any nor really tried on before) to see if their sizings would help me observe the size differences, especially since they offer Love bracelets in different cm sizes in increments of 1 cm. It seems in the Love I am a 16 cm. THEN, I tried on the 17 cm size, and the Love was too big. The 17 cm was loose enough to spin on my wrist. The SA said he would not recommend a Love size that would do that. While I know the bangle shapes may differ some between VCA and Cartier, I found that kinda interesting. He also commented that the ideal Love size should have a range movement on the wrist quite like the range of what the perlee clover small had on my wrist. Hmmm... maybe the smallt is okay then? The small fits acceptably nice on my left hand which means I may have to just accept that I will have to wear the bracelet on it almost exclusively.

Would love to know how people compare the Love sizes with their pearly clover.

Thank you to all who have helped me through this decision. I really do appreciate it.

I had a size 16 Love and prefer the way that the VCA bangle fits. The Love was way too big and nearly went up to my elbow. I agree with Phoenix and wish the Love bracelet would come in a smaller size. The VCA feels like it was made for my wrist. I would wear my Love bracelet with my VCA signature and the Love would actually go over the small VCA bracelet. Both the 16 Love and the small VCA spin on my wrist but it does not bother me. In the end it depends on how much movement you want.

If you are not sure, definitely wait. I was so certain about the Love bracelet that I did not care it was bigger and over time I became used to it.

 

[jssl1688]

I think the new thin Pave L[emoji173]️VE might be nice - at a better price point too [emoji1360]

Yes hadassa, def better price. Unfortunately, when the thin loves first came out, we went to try them on and I wasn't impressed. It didn't have the same impact as the regular love. I much prefer the thicker width of the original love. But as u said, the price point is not as friendly. I find the perlee clover overpriced as is and am having a hard time justifying that. At one point, I was thinking maybe my wrist just isn't suited for either bracelet and I should get another style all together. I really love how the juc fits me, so now I just need to try them all on again and figure out what I'll be doing next.

 

[HADASSA]

Yes hadassa, def better price. Unfortunately, when the thin loves first came out, we went to try them on and I wasn't impressed. It didn't have the same impact as the regular love. I much prefer the thicker width of the original love. But as u said, the price point is not as friendly. I find the perlee clover overpriced as is and am having a hard time justifying that. At one point, I was thinking maybe my wrist just isn't suited for either bracelet and I should get another style all together. I really love how the juc fits me, so now I just need to try them all on again and figure out what I'll be doing next.

I think the idea of the thin L[emoji173]️VEs is for stacking. I was thinking of a thin L[emoji173]️VE Pave to stack with my PG L[emoji173]️VE but at $25K...hmmmm

The JUC looks surprisingly dainty for such an
"Industrial" style [emoji1360] But still not my cup of tea [emoji20]

 

[jssl1688]

I think the idea of the thin L[emoji173]️VEs is for stacking. I was thinking of a thin L[emoji173]️VE Pave to stack with my PG L[emoji173]️VE but at $25K...hmmmm

The JUC looks surprisingly dainty for such an
"Industrial" style [emoji1360] But still not my cup of tea [emoji20]

Stacking is indeed the best look for the thin lb. but for 25k, I'd rather get the clover.

Have u tried on the juc? Believe me, when the nail first came out, me and dh were like there's no way I'll ever get a nail especially for that price. He thought it was the most ridiculous thing ever.

But once I tried it on, he fell in love and now wants to get me one. I think it's funny, he was the very person that said he would never get me a nail but now actually insists on getting me one. Oh, and only the one with diamonds. The plain is def more industrial and masculine looking and not my thing. But with diamonds, it's just so lux!

Ughhhh, decisions on what's next. But the pave lb is so tempting.....

 

[HADASSA]

Stacking is indeed the best look for the thin lb. but for 25k, I'd rather get the clover.

Have u tried on the juc? Believe me, when the nail first came out, me and dh were like there's no way I'll ever get a nail especially for that price. He thought it was the most ridiculous thing ever.

But once I tried it on, he fell in love and now wants to get me one. I think it's funny, he was the very person that said he would never get me a nail but now actually insists on getting me one. Oh, and only the one with diamonds. The plain is def more industrial and masculine looking and not my thing. But with diamonds, it's just so lux!

Ughhhh, decisions on what's next. But the pave lb is so tempting.....

Never tried on the JUC but trust me, if I should even attempt that with both my father and husband around, they'll definitely tell me, "Wait, we'll make you one and you will give us the money instead."

You've got a wonderful DH to encourage you like that

 

[jssl1688]

Never tried on the JUC but trust me, if I should even attempt that with both my father and husband around, they'll definitely tell me, "Wait, we'll make you one and you will give us the money instead."

OMG!! that's exactly what dh first said, his father and brother are real estate builders and he grew up around 16-penny nails, he said you want a nail, let me take you to lowe's and buy some 16 and make you one!!! LMAO.......

 

[jssl1688]

yes,

Never tried on the JUC but trust me, if I should even attempt that with both my father and husband around, they'll definitely tell me, "Wait, we'll make you one and you will give us the money instead."

You've got a wonderful DH to encourage you like that

yes, I have to say he's pretty awesome about it, many of my sa's say to me, they rarely meet husbands that want to dress their wives up this much......))

 

[HADASSA]

yes,


yes, I have to say he's pretty awesome about it, many of my sa's say to me, they rarely meet husbands that want to dress their wives up this much......))

All I can say is that you are a very lucky girl indeed and he is a very rare find. I hope you cherish him as much as he cherishes you

 

[jssl1688]

All I can say is that you are a very lucky girl indeed and he is a very rare find. I hope you cherish him as much as he cherishes you

thank you, that's so sweet of you to say hadassa. yes, marriage is hard work and it hasn't always been easy. I'm very grateful for all that has come my way and I count my blessings each and everyday!!

 

[purseinsanity]

Have u tried on the juc? Believe me, when the nail first came out, me and dh were like there's no way I'll ever get a nail especially for that price. He thought it was the most ridiculous thing ever.

But once I tried it on, he fell in love and now wants to get me one. I think it's funny, he was the very person that said he would never get me a nail but now actually insists on getting me one. Oh, and only the one with diamonds. The plain is def more industrial and masculine looking and not my thing. But with diamonds, it's just so lux!

Same here. I thought it was a stupid idea and DH practically had to force me to try one on. I immediately fell in love. What is funny is that I didn't care for the Pave Loves either until he wanted me to try them on. I thought they were so overpriced for the amount of diamond carat weight. So it's all his fault LOL!