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Yes, I agree MOP and chalcedony are too close. That is the reason why I do not have a chalcedony set. I have tried on chalcedony several times thinking I would get the set, but it looks too close to MOP, so I pass. But... that's because I wear only 20s, unlike you who also wears 10s.

My thoughts if I may...
I love blue agate, and if you wear YG, it's beautiful. I tried to order a blue agate set back in Nov 2021, and all pieces were approved (e.g. VA earrings, 20 motif, bracelet) except for the 20 motif which is the base for my set. Hence, I passed because I didn't want just earrings and bracelets.

If you wear YG and love blue agate, I say go for it! It's beautiful; the stone is absolutely stunning and pops. However, it seems you are unsure because it is YG.

Here are some thoughts that might help you decide...
1) Blue agate and YG in that necklace will come across very "yellow." This is because YG is already yellow, and the blue agate hue VCA uses has a drop of yellow in it, which makes it very warm (vs. a drop of red in the blue agate which would make it cool). This is different than say, onyx with YG, or MOP with YG, as these stones do not have "yellow" in them.
Hence, the blue agate necklace will be a very "yellow and warm" necklace.

2) From what I have been told, VCA will no longer make blue agate earrings, even via SO. My SA said they received too many complaints from past SOs on blue agate earrings (e.g. too translucent, the hue did not match their other pieces), so VCA stopped. Think about what other jewelry you plan to wear with it this blue agate 20 as well as what outfits.

If you are ok with the two above and have other pieces to wear with it, I say go for it!
If not, and you are only choosing from what's available because you are itching to buy a 20, for me, I would wait.
I am a white metal gal, so only platinum or WG for me. I know myself, and no matter how much I love blue agate, if it's YG, I might wear it a few times and not truly feel great when I wear it.

I am not sure if you know this, but VCA is coming out with WG guilloche this fall. It's a lot of shiny metal, so you might not like it, but I wanted to share that with you as an option. I'm not sure if it's coming out in a 20 though, but my SA told me it's coming and he knows I like 20s, so my guess is yes.

This brings me back full circle to you...
Since your chalcedony is a 10, a WG MOP in a 20 is a different look, so that's something to consider. I didn't purchase both as I only wear 20s, but you also wear 10s. For me, if I had your combo, I would get the WG MOP 20 and matching earrings. It's a different look with your chalcedony 10 and earrings.

I personally do not like warm metal (e.g. YG or RG) against skin. I like cool metal (platinum or WG) that pops, as you can see in my photo. My ring is in platinum and I love the coolness of platinum. That's just me though, and I know everyone has their preferences.

I hope this was helpful, and good luck in your decision!

Dear @BigAkoya, I am so grateful for your wisdom and guidance. You are too right about the yellow gold, I definitely prefer the white gold. Thanks again for keeping me in line, it seems you know my mind better than myself
 
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I know this is the VCA thread, so we whip out our VCA for mod shots.
However, my true love is colored gemstones with Colombian emeralds and Burma rubies at the top! I do love others as well.
My next gemstone I am working on buying is a Brazilian Paraiba tourmaline set (ring and earrings), but the set hasn't quite found me yet! It will I am sure. The stone always finds you!

I do love diamonds, and they are nice and blingy, but after a while, it all looks the same to me. Colored gemstones just make me perk up, and my eye always goes to a colored gemstone! :nuts::heart:

I was in the car headed out to lunch when I took the mod shot (hubby was driving). I was almost going to redo my mod shot and put on my Lotus ring to keep it all to VCA pieces as this is a VCA thread. However, it took me so darn long to take a good mod shot, I said forget it, I'm keeping the photo! I can't deal with more mod shot clicking! :biggrin::heart:

I think if you are working on your colored gemstone collection, I vote Colombian emerald. That stone has an inner glow like no other.
Hehe taking those mod shots can be darn irritating but I have found that when the light is right, it’s easier to take those. I hope you will continue to post them because I can’t get enough of your colored gems. I can see why you would love them more than diamonds.

I am so happy you said Colombian Emeralds because in my research and talking to a few people in the know-how, they suggested the same thing. Thank you so much to adding to my knowledge :hugs:
 
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Okay, here's my best shot at a mod shot. I stink with photos, so my apologies here, but you have to visualize a bit...
Here is my white cotton poplin oversized shirt, blue Pucci leggings, white Chanel espadrilles, and the 20+5.
I love the length of 20+5 on an oversized shirt. The shirt is long, 29", so the extra 7" from the bracelet makes the necklace 41" which really makes a difference. I must say though, I love the Puccis! I ordered them in every color and some repeats too. :nuts::heart:

For reference, I am not tall. If I stand up super straight, I am 5' 2", 108lbs, size 2. So yes... even "little people" can wear oversized shirts. :biggrin: :heart: I do like where the 20+5 lands; it's much better than just wearing the 20 alone. I drank the Kool-Aid; I like connecting! (as long as the clasps stays hidden).
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Gorgeous!!! This is such a beautiful summery feel and packs a punch. Love the whole look, especially your ocean blue-ish teal ring to match the leggings, just wow! :loveeyes: Please keep posting more combo looks, we’d love to see it!!
 
I know this is the VCA thread, so we whip out our VCA for mod shots.
However, my true love is colored gemstones with Colombian emeralds and Burma rubies at the top! I do love others as well.
My next gemstone I am working on buying is a Brazilian Paraiba tourmaline set (ring and earrings), but the set hasn't quite found me yet! It will I am sure. The stone always finds you!

I do love diamonds, and they are nice and blingy, but after a while, it all looks the same to me. Colored gemstones just make me perk up, and my eye always goes to a colored gemstone! :nuts::heart:

I was in the car headed out to lunch when I took the mod shot (hubby was driving). I was almost going to redo my mod shot and put on my Lotus ring to keep it all to VCA pieces as this is a VCA thread. However, it took me so darn long to take a good mod shot, I said forget it, I'm keeping the photo! I can't deal with more mod shot clicking! :biggrin::heart:

I think if you are working on your colored gemstone collection, I vote Colombian emerald. That stone has an inner glow like no other.
True, colored stones are worth it.
For the price of a clover perlee bangle, just adding a little bit more, one can actually get a jadeite bangle but of course, jadeite bangle can be broken.
 
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Dear @BigAkoya, I am so grateful for your wisdom and guidance. You are too right about the yellow gold, I definitely prefer the white gold. Thanks again for keeping me in line, it seems you know my mind better than myself
Plus your mod
Great outfit @BigAkoya! And that ring is so beautiful!

Would like to get a 20motif soon but now debating between WG MOP or BA, I know it’s yellow gold but I like it better than YG Onyx combo! My SA thinks my chalcedony and MOP are too similar, and I tend to agree with her.
Dear@BigAkoya, thank you for your help. Today I stayed strong, didn’t purchase but tried these, no 20 MOP but she connected 10+2-5.
Here are my thoughts, I fancy blue agate but probably won’t reach for it much because it is not my vibe. The WG MOP is so beautiful and love the way it reflects light.



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Dear@BigAkoya, thank you for your help. Today I stayed strong, didn’t purchase but tried these, no 20 MOP but she connected 10+2-5.
Here are my thoughts, I fancy blue agate but probably won’t reach for it much because it is not my vibe. The WG MOP is so beautiful and love the way it reflects light.



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I personally love the WG MOP 20 on you! And yes, that is what I love about MOP... it glows like no other stone.

For me, I would get a WG MOP 20. A 20 is a very different look from the 10 in my opinion. A long 20 is a very casual chic look in my opinion.

By the way, did you notice how all the MOPs in the 20 and bracelets match? When I purchased my set, I purchased it all at the same time (VA earrings, 20, and one bracelet). I asked the SA to bring in two of each piece so I can be sure they matched, and I would pick the pieces that matched the most. I was surprised, but all the pieces matched. It was really a waste to bring in all those pieces.

When I purchased my second WG MOP bracelet, I just told my SA to order it and send it right in to take out two links. I was so sure the MOPs would match, I had VCA alter it sight unseen. Sure enough, my second bracelet matched my set perfectly. VCA's matching of MOP for WG is spot on.
 
Can’t remember if this has been addressed in another thread, but has anyone had a clover come spontaneously undue? This happened to me TWICE today and it freaked me out. I caught it before it fell on my arm. Weirdly the top clip/snap was still in place but the metal tongue was detached and the bracelet was standing open. New for me, I forget if others have experienced
 
Can’t remember if this has been addressed in another thread, but has anyone had a clover come spontaneously undue? This happened to me TWICE today and it freaked me out. I caught it before it fell on my arm. Weirdly the top clip/snap was still in place but the metal tongue was detached and the bracelet was standing open. New for me, I forget if others have experienced

Yikes how scary! If I remember correctly @Happyish had a loose clip on her bangle and was able to get it repaired. I think that’s why they have the two mechanisms so that if one of them fails it should still hang on with the other one. But sounds like yours came off completely? I hope you can get yours repaired soon!
 
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Can’t remember if this has been addressed in another thread, but has anyone had a clover come spontaneously undue? This happened to me TWICE today and it freaked me out. I caught it before it fell on my arm. Weirdly the top clip/snap was still in place but the metal tongue was detached and the bracelet was standing open. New for me, I forget if others have experienced
So scary! Thank goodness you didn't lose it
 
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Plus your mod

Dear@BigAkoya, thank you for your help. Today I stayed strong, didn’t purchase but tried these, no 20 MOP but she connected 10+2-5.
Here are my thoughts, I fancy blue agate but probably won’t reach for it much because it is not my vibe. The WG MOP is so beautiful and love the way it reflects light.



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The blue agate pops so beautifully on your skin & white top!
 
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Dear@BigAkoya, thank you for your help. Today I stayed strong, didn’t purchase but tried these, no 20 MOP but she connected 10+2-5.
Here are my thoughts, I fancy blue agate but probably won’t reach for it much because it is not my vibe. The WG MOP is so beautiful and love the way it reflects light.



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Both look nice. It's just that blue agate's blue is the moroccan blue that's often seen in Arabic architecture.

Chardonnay 's blue gray liliac is special too. It's there but not in your face there. It's a sweet dream blue. Thanks for the mod shots.
 
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Does anyone have the MOP magic pendant and the onyx vintage pendant and have tried layering the two? Trying to imagine how that could look or if the contrast / size doesnt really work

oh what an interesting idea! I think it might look very nice since much of the magic line is about sizing and material contrast.

I’m thinking of getting the magic onyx as it seemed to really suit me when I tried it on. I’d like to try MOP as well but I already have onyx and vintage earrings as they seem to suit me more than MOP.
 
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Carnelian is tough if you are seeking a pure red. The best is not to expect and wish for a red red as it does not exist. WIth Carnelian, you need to pick your poison on the hue, and once you decide, love the hue you chose.

Carnelian is mostly either orange-red or brownish-red, never a true red as we envision it in our minds. Be sure to wear the bracelet on your wrist and go to a dark spot at the boutique without any direct light on the bracelet.

Lifting the piece up in the air, laying it flat on the tray, or seeing it under bright light is not real life. The stone is translucent, so it will take on the underlying color of the surface it is laying on, which in your case, is skin for a bracelet.

Good luck to you and congratulations on your soon-to-be new bracelet!
Thank you.
I’ve collected antique Carnelian pieces (like cameos) so realized the range in color; however found it difficult to decide which color I preferred in the 5 motif.
I’m curious if those who wear it lean toward the more orange or red side of the spectrum.
 
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