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I am thinking of adding to my WG, now that I have the large Magic pendant in WG, it needs a friend.

It may be awhile before I can do so, so I am thinking about Onyx in WG, MOP in WG, and Chaldedony in WG.

Does anyone have MOP and Chaldedony in WG to see how they go together?

Thank you
I really love having two pieces that match. So I vote for the mop bracelet in wg. So perfect for wearing in the summer! I actually got the matching earrings, too, but I imagine I won't always wear all three at the same time! I have the wg onyx pave bracelet and adore it. But I don't think onyx and mop would be worn together much unless you wear black and white often. I think the chalcedony is beautiful, but I still don't think it would go with as much as the matching white mop would.
 
I am thinking of adding to my WG, now that I have the large Magic pendant in WG, it needs a friend.

It may be awhile before I can do so, so I am thinking about Onyx in WG, MOP in WG, and Chaldedony in WG.

Does anyone have MOP and Chaldedony in WG to see how they go together?

Thank you
I vote getting WG MOP earrings or bracelet to make a set. I think sets are beautiful. I'm personally not a fan of mix and match categories (e.g. a WG MOP necklace with a WG onyx bracelet). I do think mix and mix in the same category looks great (e.g. WG MOP bracelet with a WG onyx bracelet OR WG MOP 20 with an WG onyx 20).

I just tried WG MOP and WG chalcedony, and to me, they are bit too close in shade for my liking. I prefer to match with the exact same stone or contrast. That's just me.
Hope that helps. Good luck.
 
I vote getting WG MOP earrings or bracelet to make a set. I think sets are beautiful. I'm personally not a fan of mix and match categories (e.g. a WG MOP necklace with a WG onyx bracelet). I do think mix and mix in the same category looks great (e.g. WG MOP bracelet with a WG onyx bracelet OR WG MOP 20 with an WG onyx 20).

I just tried WG MOP and WG chalcedony, and to me, they are bit too close in shade for my liking. I prefer to match with the exact same stone or contrast. That's just me.
Hope that helps. Good luck.

Very true for me too. I tried this multiple times myself, but still could not love it.
 
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I vote getting WG MOP earrings or bracelet to make a set. I think sets are beautiful. I'm personally not a fan of mix and match categories (e.g. a WG MOP necklace with a WG onyx bracelet). I do think mix and mix in the same category looks great (e.g. WG MOP bracelet with a WG onyx bracelet OR WG MOP 20 with an WG onyx 20).

I just tried WG MOP and WG chalcedony, and to me, they are bit too close in shade for my liking. I prefer to match with the exact same stone or contrast. That's just me.
Hope that helps. Good luck.

What would be a good necklace or earring option for the WG onyx/pave bracelet? I currently match it with WG guilloche 2020 holiday pendant.. am thinking of a 10 motif but the avail options for WG (no SO or Mto where im at) is so limited..
 
Lots of interest in the butterfly collection, so I thought I would share an update...
I am travelling and landed here in Vegas (heatwave, it's so hot here! :shocked: :heart:). I did a quick walk downstairs to the VCA boutique at Wynn. I am only here for one day, so it was now or never to visit The Shops at Wynn. I figure I can have a late dinner because bling comes first. :biggrin: :heart:

I asked to see the pink and yellow butterfly BTF ring (size 52 and 53) and earrings. There were none at the store. The SA pulled up the inventory list, and there is one set of pink earrings and one each of the pink butterfly ring in size 52 and 53. There were no yellow earrings or size 52/53 rings in inventory at all.

The store had a diamond pave butterfly BTF ring, size 54 (too big). There was also a pink butterfly pendant, so the SA put the pink butterfly on top of on of the pave butterflies on the ring to create that look. The pink butterfly combo looked nice, but it did not pop to me. I really paid attention to the pink this time (more than a 5 second try-on as I did in the past). My eyes saw the RG metal first, then I saw the sapphire. The RG metal is more intense and of course reflects shine; hence it's the star. I felt the pale pink of the sapphires took a back seat. Plus, the pink sapphire had a drop of blue which also made the color recede a bit in the background. So... for me, nice ring, but I can't say I love the pink. I would want a brighter pink to pops more when competing with the RG. That's just me of course. Some people love the mellow pale pink.

I am hoping the yellow pops more. Using that same idea to create a mock up ring, I then asked to see a pendant in yellow sapphire. The SA looked and had no yellow butterflies. He said for yellow, I would have to order, and it would take 6 months (same story as we all know).

I am sharing this in case any of you ladies want the pink butterfly... both the earrings and a size 52 and 53 ring are in stock for now.
Yellow sapphire is out of stock in the US, at least that's what the SA showed me on his computer as of tonight.

I know the Perlee Clover is out of stock, but we talked about the Clover anyway. I wanted to see how two WG Clovers would look on me and if I could deal with the jingle. There are no Clovers, and the SA said VCA has halted all orders, so he cannot even order one. The SA thought people were tired of Cartier (too saturated in the market), hence the huge wave of interest they are seeing in the Clover.

This was the first time I am back in Vegas since COVID. I was surprised the place is dead, at least tonight. All the shops I went to (VCA, Mikimoto, Buccellati, Chanel) were empty, it was just me in the store. Very odd. I think people are use to shopping via text these days, and I have a feeling this may become more of a norm vs. in-boutique visits. Even the VCA SA, whom I have never met, offered to ship me the three pink butterfly pieces and said I could send back whatever I did not want. I personally like this change as not everyone, including me, lives near these boutiques.

That's the latest news to share! Hope some of you found it helpful.
 
Lots of interest in the butterfly collection, so I thought I would share an update...
I am travelling and landed here in Vegas (heatwave, it's so hot here! :shocked: :heart:). I did a quick walk downstairs to the VCA boutique at Wynn. I am only here for one day, so it was now or never to visit The Shops at Wynn. I figure I can have a late dinner because bling comes first. :biggrin: :heart:

I asked to see the pink and yellow butterfly BTF ring (size 52 and 53) and earrings. There were none at the store. The SA pulled up the inventory list, and there is one set of pink earrings and one each of the pink butterfly ring in size 52 and 53. There were no yellow earrings or size 52/53 rings in inventory at all.

The store had a diamond pave butterfly BTF ring, size 54 (too big). There was also a pink butterfly pendant, so the SA put the pink butterfly on top of on of the pave butterflies on the ring to create that look. The pink butterfly combo looked nice, but it did not pop to me. I really paid attention to the pink this time (more than a 5 second try-on as I did in the past). My eyes saw the RG metal first, then I saw the sapphire. The RG metal is more intense and of course reflects shine; hence it's the star. I felt the pale pink of the sapphires took a back seat. Plus, the pink sapphire had a drop of blue which also made the color recede a bit in the background. So... for me, nice ring, but I can't say I love the pink. I would want a brighter pink to pops more when competing with the RG. That's just me of course. Some people love the mellow pale pink.

I am hoping the yellow pops more. Using that same idea to create a mock up ring, I then asked to see a pendant in yellow sapphire. The SA looked and had no yellow butterflies. He said for yellow, I would have to order, and it would take 6 months (same story as we all know).

I am sharing this in case any of you ladies want the pink butterfly... both the earrings and a size 52 and 53 ring are in stock for now.
Yellow sapphire is out of stock in the US, at least that's what the SA showed me on his computer as of tonight.

I know the Perlee Clover is out of stock, but we talked about the Clover anyway. I wanted to see how two WG Clovers would look on me and if I could deal with the jingle. There are no Clovers, and the SA said VCA has halted all orders, so he cannot even order one. The SA thought people were tired of Cartier (too saturated in the market), hence the huge wave of interest they are seeing in the Clover.

This was the first time I am back in Vegas since COVID. I was surprised the place is dead, at least tonight. All the shops I went to (VCA, Mikimoto, Buccellati, Chanel) were empty, it was just me in the store. Very odd. I think people are use to shopping via text these days, and I have a feeling this may become more of a norm vs. in-boutique visits. Even the VCA SA, whom I have never met, offered to ship me the three pink butterfly pieces and said I could send back whatever I did not want. I personally like this change as not everyone, including me, lives near these boutiques.

That's the latest news to share! Hope some of you found it helpful.
I am hoping to try on the yellow butterflies as well. I have tried on every other combo and the diamond ones are still the best ones so far. I love that they offered to ship to home as this allows you to really try with your other jewelry pieces.
 
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What would be a good necklace or earring option for the WG onyx/pave bracelet? I currently match it with WG guilloche 2020 holiday pendant.. am thinking of a 10 motif but the avail options for WG (no SO or Mto where im at) is so limited..
Hi! I would say the obvious for a perfect match are the WG VA pave earrings.

That said...
For me though, I am not a fan of the VA pave earrings (too much metal, not enough diamonds, don't like the dot in the center), hence I would not get the earrings myself, even though they are a perfect match.

For me...
If I had the oynx pave bracelet and wanted to add WG pieces to wear with it, I would get WG Chalcedony earrings and 20 motif necklace. For you, I think you prefer a 10 motif, so for you, I would get WG chalcedony earrings and a 10 motif. You would have dreamy, cool, sky blue cloud motifs floating around your face, and then your arm would have a nice pop of onyx.

I love chalcedony and onyx together. I think it brings out the intensity of the sky blue in the chalcedony (put chalcedony against a black top and it just pops). Love this combo! :biggrin::heart:

Just my two cents. Hope this helps.
 
Hi! I would say the obvious for a perfect match are the WG VA pave earrings.

That said...
For me though, I am not a fan of the VA pave earrings (too much metal, not enough diamonds, don't like the dot in the center), hence I would not get the earrings myself, even though they are a perfect match.

For me...
If I had the oynx pave bracelet and wanted to add WG pieces to wear with it, I would get WG Chalcedony earrings and 20 motif necklace. For you, I think you prefer a 10 motif, so for you, I would get WG chalcedony earrings and a 10 motif. You would have dreamy, cool, sky blue cloud motifs floating around your face, and then your arm would have a nice pop of onyx.

I love chalcedony and onyx together. I think it brings out the intensity of the sky blue in the chalcedony (put chalcedony against a black top and it just pops). Love this combo! :biggrin::heart:

Just my two cents. Hope this helps.

Agree, i personally wouldnt get the pave alhambra motif alone, i need it with some stones (full pave or full gold items will feel boring to me after some time, lack of color!), like i can accept the alhambra pave motif in the alternating pave items

But like you, i think sets are nicer, so while i am considering the chalcedony 10 motif necklaces, i am quite a matchy matchy person.. i dont like mixing metals so am not sure if i can accept chalcedony and onyx on myself.. ideally i would probably get WG onyx necklaces but thats not avail to me. -.- so i may just stick with solid WG guilloche for now..

Someone also told me WG suits caucasians better (i am asian) so its making me wonder about my choice of WG vca items T.T
 
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I am hoping to try on the yellow butterflies as well. I have tried on every other combo and the diamond ones are still the best ones so far. I love that they offered to ship to home as this allows you to really try with your other jewelry pieces.
Yes I love this new system too. My SA has offered to do this in the past, but I thought it was because I was an existing client.
I was an unknown to the SA today, and he offered to send me all the pink sapphire pieces, just like that. I think it's becoming an unwritten VCA policy now which I think makes a lot of sense. A person can return anything purchased online, so why not at the boutiques.

Did you also not like the pink? Did you feel the same way I felt about the pink or something different? I tried to love the pink (my hubby votes for pink), and while I like it, I couldn't love it. I'm a ring person, so I have to love my rings as I see them all day, unlike earrings which I put on and never see them until I take them off. The all diamond pave is very nice, but I would think about what other diamond pave VCA rings you plan to buy. I already have the WG Frivole pave BTF ring and the Lotus BTF ring, and it's all going to start to look the same after a while... just a bunch of diamond rings. If you want a VCA all diamond blingy ring, I would say of the three, the butterfly packs the least punch. The butterfly is very dainty type bling to me; it does not scream bling. That's just me though. I have other all diamond rings too, so I told myself no more all diamond rings... back to color!

So... maybe think about that too in the future. I see a Frivole or Lotus in your future! :biggrin::hugs::heart:
 
Agree, i personally wouldnt get the pave alhambra motif alone, i need it with some stones, like the alternating pave necklaces for e.g.

But like you, i think sets are nicer, so while i am considering the chalcedony 10 motif necklaces, i am quite a matchy matchy person.. i dont like mixing metals so am not sure if i can accept chalcedony and onyx on myself.. ideally i would probably get WG onyx necklaces but thats not avail to me. -.- so i may just stick with solid WG guilloche for now..

Someone also told me WG suits caucasians better (i am asian) so its making me wonder about my choice of WG vca items T.T
Skin color does not factor in for me when it comes to choice of metal. No one looks bad in platinum high jewelry!
I see a lot of Asians rocking and looking very glamorous in their platinum bling! :nuts::heart: Check out shows like Crazy Rich Asians or Bling Empire... lots of platinum (e.g. white metal).

On the contrary, I think white metal (WG or platinum) pops on skin, and I love it! I think YG or RG is more mellow and does not pop. They are also viewed as casual metals while white metal (platinum/WG) is viewed as more dressy.
Platinum or WG for me all the way. I like my jewelry to stand out!
 
Skin color does not factor in for me when it comes to choice of metal. No one looks bad in platinum high jewelry!
I see a lot of Asians rocking and looking very glamorous in their platinum bling! :nuts::heart: Check out shows like Crazy Rich Asians or Bling Empire... lots of platinum (e.g. white metal).

On the contrary, I think white metal (WG or platinum) pops on skin, and I love it! I think YG or RG is more mellow and does not pop. They are also viewed as casual metals while white metal (platinum/WG) is viewed as more dressy.
Platinum or WG for me all the way. I like my jewelry to stand out!

Thank you so much for the affirmation!! I also feel the same ! I know there was some theory about cool and warm tone skin tends to suit which metal better.. but i find there are days i like to be in YG (mellow like you say, blends more into skintone) and there are days where i enjoy the good old white metal or WG in my case (i dont have exp with platinum). Like you said, white gold gives that pop, and i like it to match with my cooler coloured clothes (like blue, denim, black etc)

Oh, explains also why i like YG with my floral casual dresses and WG more for my more formal work attires
 
Yes I love this new system too. My SA has offered to do this in the past, but I thought it was because I was an existing client.
I was an unknown to the SA today, and he offered to send me all the pink sapphire pieces, just like that. I think it's becoming an unwritten VCA policy now which I think makes a lot of sense. A person can return anything purchased online, so why not at the boutiques.

Did you also not like the pink? Did you feel the same way I felt about the pink or something different? I tried to love the pink (my hubby votes for pink), and while I like it, I couldn't love it. I'm a ring person, so I have to love my rings as I see them all day, unlike earrings which I put on and never see them until I take them off. The all diamond pave is very nice, but I would think about what other diamond pave VCA rings you plan to buy. I already have the WG Frivole pave BTF ring and the Lotus BTF ring, and it's all going to start to look the same after a while... just a bunch of diamond rings. If you want a VCA all diamond blingy ring, I would say of the three, the butterfly packs the least punch. The butterfly is very dainty type bling to me; it does not scream bling. That's just me though. I have other all diamond rings too, so I told myself no more all diamond rings... back to color!

So... maybe think about that too in the future. I see a Frivole or Lotus in your future! :biggrin::hugs::heart:
The pink butterfly earring didn’t really pop on me. It felt muted and kind of off. I think your observation about the color is spot on. I really need to see with my hair down to determine if works with entire look. I had braids when I tried them on. I am going to request to my SA that they ship them to me to try on at home. I have started to peek at rings but the stock is so limited. I will need another trip to properly review. Vegas tends to give most variety so I will go back there soon
 
Thank you so much for the affirmation!! I also feel the same ! I know there was some theory about cool and warm tone skin tends to suit which metal better.. but i find there are days i like to be in YG (mellow like you say, blends more into skintone) and there are days where i enjoy the good old white metal or WG in my case (i dont have exp with platinum). Like you said, white gold gives that pop, and i like it to match with my cooler coloured clothes (like blue, denim, black etc)

Oh, explains also why i like YG with my floral casual dresses and WG more for my more formal work attires
People talk about what metal looks good on skin which I personally think is such a 21st century marketing brainwash.

WG and YG have been around for decades/centuries, and back then, the marketing and style of the era was YG for casual daytime attire and platinum/WG for evening attire. So, back then, a woman was told she looked gorgeous in both metals! All of a sudden now, a woman is told she only looks good in one metal? No way, we women are not that naive.

The choice of metal has nothing to do with skin color; it has everything to do with how you want the piece to look on you... to pop, or to be mellow.

Social media has tons of glamorous Asians with their gorgeous outfits and WG/platinum bling!
And yes... for your look, I love white metal with blues and blacks. It really stands out!
 
What would be a good necklace or earring option for the WG onyx/pave bracelet? I currently match it with WG guilloche 2020 holiday pendant.. am thinking of a 10 motif but the avail options for WG (no SO or Mto where im at) is so limited..
I would wear that with WG pave VA studs for sure. Necklace, I don't know. I suck at pendants and necklaces.
 
People talk about what metal looks good on skin which I personally think is such a 21st century marketing brainwash.

WG and YG have been around for decades/centuries, and back then, the marketing and style of the era was YG for casual daytime attire and platinum/WG for evening attire. So, back then, a woman was told she looked gorgeous in both metals! All of a sudden now, a woman is told she only looks good in one metal? No way, we women are not that naive.

The choice of metal has nothing to do with skin color; it has everything to do with how you want the piece to look on you... to pop, or to be mellow.

Social media has tons of glamorous Asians with their gorgeous outfits and WG/platinum bling!
And yes... for your look, I love white metal with blues and blacks. It really stands out!
I agree that it's a matter of preference. Certain metal pops more on certain complexions. I'm Asian, and I prefer WG because it happens that I'm more olive toned and white metals pop on me and I like the pop. YG fights my complexion and RG blends in a soft mellow way. If I preferred soft and mellow most, then I'd get RG. Another person could have the exact some skin tone as me and love and prefer RG. There are plenty of Asian people that have very fair skin and YG pops on them, and WG blends more. Totally just depends on preference. I don't think there are rules.
 
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