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Hi,
Can’t seem to find VCA regrets thread, so posting here. Also I am kind of unsure if I regret it enough to let the necklace go.
I usually stick to 10 motif necklaces and smaller pendants but with GMOP I decided I wanted variety and got the Magic pendant. I have had it for a while now and I feel it only looks good on me when the chain is doubled and the other lengths look odd in person. I also find it screaming “VCA”. I don’t know what I was thinking keeping this pendant when I had returned Onyx, WMOP and Malachite magic pendants for the above stated reasons.
Sometimes I feel it is a change from other necklaces I have and a lot of times I just want to get rid of it and do 10 motif RG GMOP MTO. When and how do I decide to keep it or let it go? I am having heart attack thinking about the resale loss. Thanks!
I understand your point,
As an update on my BA Magic saga, I did finally wear it with a plain white top today and it looked ok. I tried this weird thing where I looped the chain and fastened the clasp around the chain. Hard to explain l, gets it to a nice lengthy but looks messy. Anyway, maybe I’ll hold onto it for now… weirdly to me it doesn’t seem as large/loud at this length

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I think with magic necklaces it depends on what you wear. Giving an example, I have the MOP and if I wear it on bare skin, it blends into my skin. In that case it gives a nice glow to my skin without screaming logo or anything (same with white, beige or ecru clothing). Tbh, in MOP it is even hard to recognize the clover shape on someone , maybe it is some sort of an optical illusion. I would assume a similar effect on GMOP (@innerpeace85) . Maybe it is because they are stones that have dimension so it takes the eye away from the clover shape. That being said, I realized that I do not wear my magic very often. For me the reason is different though, I like in on long setting and since I am someone that babies stuff, I am afraid it will get damaged. I recently found a wonderful length for my magic, I am hoping to wear it much more often this way… I bought some V neck tops (I rarely wear V necks but I thought it was worth to try compared to the loss selling the necklace) both with long sleeves and sleeveless. I don’t have an example now but they are not with thin straps. Their straps are quite thick, they end up almost where shoulders end. I wear them as shown in photo and this way it is so stunning and looks very mystical and delicate. Combine them with some plain small studs (can be diamond or pearl or just gold) or skip the earrings. This combo looks to me very casual and cool chic. I hope it also works for you :smile:
Also another advantage of magic is the chain. I use it for attaching other pendants, I know I could get the chain from elsewhere for much cheaper but I love the VCA chains, they are so sparkly! I also saw some people on this forum using the motif on their 20s or 10s and it looked fabulous!

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VCA didn’t have the lapis turquoise, but I did try on black and green (99K?) and also a carnelian one (95K). Oddly, for me, I think I liked the carnelian one better. Sadly I liked the choker more than the pendant (44K). The earrings seem lighter carnelian in the photos but seemed closer in color in person. I didn’t try them bc I have chunky lobes, and I didn’t want to struggle. I also have issues with my piercings and weight, so I don’t wear earrings as much. (I’ve taken note of every point @BigAkoya has made re earring modification, just in case I fall madly in love with something so,sday :smile:

For the price, I’m just not sure I will get cost per wear out of the choker. My SA basically said it’s not cost per wear for this kind of thing, but if it fulfills a necessary function/ fills an empty niche. I’m still thinkinh the Bulgari tubogas serpenti necklace is better value, but I’m keeping an open mind. Of course all this is a very privileged issue to have, and I am cognizant of that.

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i tried other things on, like watches and a white gold ludo bracelet, but those paled in comparison
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ETA: in the boutique, the carnelian choker was the forerunner. Looking at the pics, I’m not so sure. Lol
there wasn’t much in the heritage case that appealed, so I skipped it.
I think you are right, choker looks fabulous on you! IMO, button d’or compliments your beautiful verdura cuff. Together they are striking. It gives me all that ancient goddess vibes! I know snakes can also remind ancient jewelry but a different kind (ancient greek vs ancient egyptian). I would choose a stone combination that fits your verdura cuff and wear them like goddess! :biggrin: I never thought I would post a cartoon here but this came closest to my imagination:biggrin:
 

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I think you are right, choker looks fabulous on you! IMO, button d’or compliments your beautiful verdura cuff. Together they are striking. It gives me all that ancient goddess vibes! I know snakes can also remind ancient jewelry but a different kind (ancient greek vs ancient egyptian). I would choose a stone combination that fits your verdura cuff and wear them like goddess! :biggrin: I never thought I would post a cartoon here but this came closest to my imagination:biggrin:
Wow, thank you so much!:hugs:
 
Hi ladies! Would love your help since I’m currently having decision paralysis lol I’m deciding on which 5 motif bracelet to add to my collection. I don’t baby my jewelry, even fine jewelry, and I’m ok with eventual wear & tear on a piece. I’d rather have something that I love and goes through life with me rather than something I have to keep in a safe.

I’m between the MOP, BA, onyx, guilloche, and hammered bracelet. I tried on a friend’s MOP and LOVED it but am very worried about MOP in the water (showers, working out, etc). I ordered the guilloche because it’s gorgeous and it’s sturdy as it’s solid gold (I’m ok with small scratches and won’t be stacking it). Don’t love the idea of an onyx bracelet as I already have a onyx pendant so thinking something other than onyx. Love BA but maybe not neutral enough for everyday wear? Hammered seems most practical but I don’t love it for some reason so that’s why I went with guilloche.

Only other jewelry I wear is a YG family heirloom and my platinum ering. Would love your help!!! Am I missing anything here? Would you suggest something other than guilloche?!
Van Cleef is Fine Jewelry. Period.
If you intend to wear your necklace 24/7, including in the shower, pool, without being careful of touching it with sunscreen, hairspray, perfume or body lotion, etc. stay away from any of the stones. There is no question the MOP will be destroyed. Perhaps the sturdiest of the stones would be the onyx, but given your intended use, that too will show wear, tear and fading in short order.
Moreover, you've already said you don't love the onyx, and you don't love the hammered gold, so these two shouldn't even be up for consideration.
The guilloche is very elegant, and of all the options you've mentioned will be the hardiest for the manner in which you intend to wear your necklace.
However, as a final thought--you're putting a lot of money into a single item. I would think you'd want it to look new as long as possible. We're all different but I wouldn't exactly say that removing a necklace before going to bed, working out or showering is "babying it." That kind of use can put unintended stress of the clasp and cause other damage as well.
I graduated from wearing things 24/7 to babying my jewelry. I stretched out the band of an expensive watch, other pieces had dings and scratches that could never be removed, colored stones faded, clasps broke and I completely wore off the finish of a gorgeous necklace amongst other things. On one hand, I'm proud I wore them to death. On the other, they died! So I learned the hard way. With this kind of use, my pieces couldn't withstand the test of time.
Currently, I wear my jewelry all the time-everyday but not 24/7. I'm careful, but not crazy (okay, just a little). I put my jewelry on before I leave the house. I take it off when I come home, unless I decide to wear it around the house for the fun of it--but if it's a bracelet or ring-no cooking or cleaning or anything else. Pieces I've had 20-years plus show next to no signs of wear. So, think about it.
 
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VCA didn’t have the lapis turquoise, but I did try on black and green (99K?) and also a carnelian one (95K). Oddly, for me, I think I liked the carnelian one better. Sadly I liked the choker more than the pendant (44K). The earrings seem lighter carnelian in the photos but seemed closer in color in person. I didn’t try them bc I have chunky lobes, and I didn’t want to struggle. I also have issues with my piercings and weight, so I don’t wear earrings as much. (I’ve taken note of every point @BigAkoya has made re earring modification, just in case I fall madly in love with something so,sday :smile:

For the price, I’m just not sure I will get cost per wear out of the choker. My SA basically said it’s not cost per wear for this kind of thing, but if it fulfills a necessary function/ fills an empty niche. I’m still thinkinh the Bulgari tubogas serpenti necklace is better value, but I’m keeping an open mind. Of course all this is a very privileged issue to have, and I am cognizant of that.

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i tried other things on, like watches and a white gold ludo bracelet, but those paled in comparison
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ETA: in the boutique, the carnelian choker was the forerunner. Looking at the pics, I’m not so sure. Lol
there wasn’t much in the heritage case that appealed, so I skipped it.
Sorry. The chokers got me, fabulous, bold, unique yet still so elegant. My first choice for you is the carnelian too, with the other one second. For that price, I would not bother with the others.
 
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