VCA ~ Van Cleef Arpels Discussion thread!

[nicole0612]

Has anyone seen a WG mother of pearl 10 motif or 20 motif necklace with the mother of pearl having an iridescent rainbow color? I realize that the stones are selected to compliment the metal, so most MOP in WG is white/silvery, but I am looking to expand my WG collection and would be interested if I could find my preferred shade of MOP in WG.

 

[BigAkoya]

Has anyone seen a WG mother of pearl 10 motif or 20 motif necklace with the mother of pearl having an iridescent rainbow color? I realize that the stones are selected to compliment the metal, so most MOP in WG is white/silvery, but I am looking to expand my WG collection and would be interested if I could find my preferred shade of MOP in WG.

For what it's worth, here is my experience...
I found MOP in WG very consistent. All have a slight iridescence, and all have a silver overtone to match the cool white metal.

When I purchased my WG MOP set (20 motif, VA earrings, 5 motif bracelet). I thought there would some variance in the pieces, so I asked my SA to bring in two of every piece I was going to buy. My thought was I would pick the ones that matched the best

All the pieces looked pretty much the same with the same overtone. My SA said he had never really seen so many WG MOP pieces all at one time, and he too was pleasantly surprised to see how much they matched.

A little while after I bought my set, I decided to get a second WG MOP 5 motif bracelet. I was so confident the MOP would be fine, I ordered the bracelet, had it sized, and then, I had it sent to me. I did this without ever first seeing the bracelet. I think you've seen photos of my set and second bracelet. You can see from my photos they all match pretty well and they are all silver overtone. Even the MOP in my WG panda clip matches my Alhambra MOP. It's very consistent.

That's my experience to share. My preference when I buy pearl pieces is a pure white with a very slight pink overtone. However, the tone VCA uses in their WG pieces is the silver overtone. If you want a pink overtone with iridescence, you will have to stay with YG. If I wore both YG and WG metal, I would choose the YG MOP combination, no doubt. The MOP is stunning.

As a thought, if you want something similar to MOP, chalcedony is very lovely. It's mellow like MOP, but it does not glow like MOP. Rather, Chalcedony is very dreamy and ethereal with its pale blue striations... to me, chalcedony is like looking at blue floating clouds. It's a beautiful stone if you want something mellow and WG.

Hope that helps.

 

[880]

That is pretty @Notorious Pink … The perlee clover ring would be too heavy to fall diagonally. I was actually digging the look till someone said it looks like I am wearing the B-zero1 pendant and I couldn’t shake off that image

i love the sapphire heart looped with the chain, and your idea for perlee clover (I like playing with my stuff) but I really get this bc I really dislike Bzerol; it reminds me too much of duty free shopping

@BigAkoya , do you wear chalcedony? It doesn’t work with my skintone, but I think it might be nice with your summer wardrobe

 

[BigAkoya]

i love the sapphire heart looped with the chain, and your idea for perlee clover (I like playing with my stuff) but I really get this bc I really dislike Bzerol; it reminds me too much of duty free shopping

@BigAkoya , do you wear chalcedony? It doesn’t work with my skintone, but I think it might be nice with your summer wardrobe

I don't have a chalcedony set yet, as I currently want a happy, bright color stone (e.g. my request for a blue agate set).
I wear a lot of stripes in the summer, and the one time I tried it on a 20, it looked too mellow against my happy stripes!

I think chalcedony looks gorgeous against black, and I wear tons of black in the winter. I used to wear black all the time, 24x7, day & night, work & play, so I'm trying to get away from so much black. Black looks great with colored stones & gemstones for sure!

For me, jewelry is not so much about my skintone vs. working with my outfits. The Oscars recently had tons of nice bling, and no one looked bad. I've never seen high jewelry look bad on anyone as the jewelry stands on its own. Everyone had outfits and jewelry that coordinated well; either by complementing the dress and jewelry or contrasting.

I see more of how the individual piece looks. In this view, I think chalcedony only looks good in WG. It's cool and dreamy. It would not be the same in YG or RG. If you like chalcedony, I think chalcedony would look amazing with the right outfit and clothing colors. It's a beautiful stone.

That was cute about duty-free shopping... I know exactly what you mean.
Speaking of duty-free.. I'm headed off to London later today... I haven't been there since Nov 2019, pre-COVID and pre-Brexit. I think duty-free at LHR is over. I am not one to buy branded jewelry overseas as I prefer to buy it in the US. However I am fine with buying clothing & shoes that I know I will not need altered. There is a Chanel boutique at T3 that always seems to have shoes in my size 38. Believe it or not, that's one of the highlights at the end of my trip, to see what last minute surprise shows up. It's gotten so fun, it's a ritual for me now. I even stay at the LHR Marriott the night before so I can hit the boutique in the morning when they open, before I board.

I am sure you have done wild things like that too!

 

[nicole0612]

For what it's worth, here is my experience...
I found MOP in WG very consistent. All have a slight iridescence, and all have a silver overtone to match the cool white metal.

When I purchased my WG MOP set (20 motif, VA earrings, 5 motif bracelet). I thought there would some variance in the pieces, so I asked my SA to bring in two of every piece I was going to buy. My thought was I would pick the ones that matched the best

All the pieces looked pretty much the same with the same overtone. My SA said he had never really seen so many WG MOP pieces all at one time, and he too was pleasantly surprised to see how much they matched.

A little while after I bought my set, I decided to get a second WG MOP 5 motif bracelet. I was so confident the MOP would be fine, I ordered the bracelet, had it sized, and then, I had it sent to me. I did this without ever first seeing the bracelet. I think you've seen photos of my set and second bracelet. You can see from my photos they all match pretty well and they are all silver overtone. Even the MOP in my WG panda clip matches my Alhambra MOP. It's very consistent.

That's my experience to share. My preference when I buy pearl pieces is a pure white with a very slight pink overtone. However, the tone VCA uses in their WG pieces is the silver overtone. If you want a pink overtone with iridescence, you will have to stay with YG. If I wore both YG and WG metal, I would choose the YG MOP combination, no doubt. The MOP is stunning.

As a thought, if you want something similar to MOP, chalcedony is very lovely. It's mellow like MOP, but it does not glow like MOP. Rather, Chalcedony is very dreamy and ethereal with its pale blue striations... to me, chalcedony is like looking at blue floating clouds. It's a beautiful stone if you want something mellow and WG.

Hope that helps.

Thank you, for some reason VCA WG does not work very well for me, though I can wear it from other brands. I have extremely fair, cool coloring, and those colors wash me out. I have a couple of VCA WG pieces and really struggle to find something to add to wear them with. I can wear WG/platinum pave from other brands, but even my WG pave earrings look really harsh on me and are not earrings I enjoy seeing on myself.

Chalcedony won’t work, because in WG it is just too cool, and of course stones with more color are not available in WG.

My GMOP WG 5 motif is my ideal WG piece, but I hesitate to SO a 10 or 20 because I feel it will be released as part of the regular line in time.

I have seen/saved posts about single pendant WG MOP with more of a rainbow color, so that’s why I asked if there was any hope for a 10 or 20 (my SA said no also). I figured I would do some crowdsourcing before I crossed it off the list completely.

It does sound like the GMOP WG 10/20 is really my only option. Otherwise if WG/onyx pave is released in a 10 first, I would get that to wear with my 5 motif of the same. It’s ok on the wrist, but I really only buy bracelets to extend 10 motif necklaces.

 

[880]

I don't have a chalcedony set yet, as I currently want a happy, bright color stone (e.g. my request for a blue agate set).
I wear a lot of stripes in the summer, and the one time I tried it on a 20, it looked too mellow against my happy stripes!

I think chalcedony looks gorgeous against black, and I wear tons of black in the winter. I used to wear black all the time, 24x7, day & night, work & play, so I'm trying to get away from so much black. Black looks great with colored stones & gemstones for sure!

For me, jewelry is not so much about my skintone vs. working with my outfits. The Oscars recently had tons of nice bling, and no one looked bad. I've never seen high jewelry look bad on anyone as the jewelry stands on its own. Everyone had outfits and jewelry that coordinated well; either by complementing the dress and jewelry or contrasting.

I see more of how the individual piece looks. In this view, I think chalcedony only looks good in WG. It's cool and dreamy. It would not be the same in YG or RG. If you like chalcedony, I think chalcedony would look amazing with the right outfit and clothing colors. It's a beautiful stone.

That was cute about duty-free shopping... I know exactly what you mean.
Speaking of duty-free.. I'm headed off to London later today... I haven't been there since Nov 2019, pre-COVID and pre-Brexit. I think duty-free at LHR is over. I am not one to buy branded jewelry overseas as I prefer to buy it in the US. However I am fine with buying clothing & shoes that I know I will not need altered. There is a Chanel boutique at T3 that always seems to have shoes in my size 38. Believe it or not, that's one of the highlights at the end of my trip, to see what last minute surprise shows up. It's gotten so fun, it's a ritual for me now. I even stay at the LHR Marriott the night before so I can hit the boutique in the morning when they open, before I board.

I am sure you have done wild things like that too!

yep! Hermes heathrow was also well stocked a month ago re shoes and things have a great time!

 

[BigAkoya]

Thank you, for some reason VCA WG does not work very well for me, though I can wear it from other brands. I have extremely fair, cool coloring, and those colors wash me out. I have a couple of VCA WG pieces and really struggle to find something to add to wear them with. I can wear WG/platinum pave from other brands, but even my WG pave earrings look really harsh on me and are not earrings I enjoy seeing on myself.

Chalcedony won’t work, because in WG it is just too cool, and of course stones with more color are not available in WG.

My GMOP WG 5 motif is my ideal WG piece, but I hesitate to SO a 10 or 20 because I feel it will be released as part of the regular line in time.
I have seen/saved posts about single pendant WG MOP with more of a rainbow color, so that’s why I asked if there was any hope for a 10 or 20 (my SA said no also). I figured I would do some crowdsourcing before I crossed it off the list completely.

I have seen/saved posts about single pendant WG MOP with more of a rainbow color, so that’s why I asked if there was any hope for a 10 or 20 (my SA said no also). I figured I would do some crowdsourcing before I crossed it off the list completely.

It does sound like the WMOP WG 10/20 is really my only option. Otherwise if WG/onyx pave is released in a 10 first, I would get that to wear with my 5 motif of the same. It’s ok on the wrist, but I really only buy bracelets to extend 10 motif necklaces.

Yes... Alhambra in WG is really tough! Very limited choices!
I think try on the 20 WG MOP against your blouse and see how you like it. WG MOP against clothes is very different than WG MOP against skin. It pops against an outfit. You can also layer it with your other WG pieces. the WG MOP is super versatile.

The post you saved can be lighting or angle. I can probably make a single stone show rainbow colors in a photo. But keep in mind that is not real life. In real life, the piece is on you, laying flat, it moves. You can look at my photos with all those single WG MOPs. I am sure you can pick out a few that are more rainbow-y. However, in the end, they all have a silver overtone.

I would suggesting trying on a 20 with a blouse. If you don't like it, skip this stone. I personally love it. It pops and works with everything. Very easy to wear and lights up an outfit. I know you are concerned about your skintone against WG MOP, but I truly think if you wear a blouse, put that 20 motif on top, it's a very different look.

Good luck!

 

[BigAkoya]

@nicole0612
This is for you for some fun! Pick a rainbow motif! It’s there, so you can see it.

It’s not real though, it’s the lighting. All of them have silver overtone, and they all match. It’s 100% lighting.

 

[BigAkoya]

@nicole0612
Another old photo…
The MOP earring is looking super white. Not real! It’s the lighting. Look at the earrings in the earlier photo. Silver overtone.

I hope this helps.

 

[nicole0612]

Yes... Alhambra in WG is really tough! Very limited choices!
I think try on the 20 WG MOP against your blouse and see how you like it. WG MOP against clothes is very different than WG MOP against skin. It pops against an outfit. You can also layer it with your other WG pieces. the WG MOP is super versatile.

The post you saved can be lighting or angle. I can probably make a single stone show rainbow colors in a photo. But keep in mind that is not real life. In real life, the piece is on you, laying flat, it moves. You can look at my photos with all those single WG MOPs. I am sure you can pick out a few that are more rainbow-y. However, in the end, they all have a silver overtone.

I would suggesting trying on a 20 with a blouse. If you don't like it, skip this stone. I personally love it. It pops and works with everything. Very easy to wear and lights up an outfit. I know you are concerned about your skintone against WG MOP, but I truly think if you wear a blouse, put that 20 motif on top, it's a very different look.

Good luck!

Thank you! Yes, I have a WG MOP 10 motif that is out on indefinite loan to my sister because it is very white, so I know what the stone looks like, but was just hoping against all logic and evidence that if I wait long enough I may find a different shade. I want to add another 20 neutral, but plain white just does not do anything for me. It’s too “Americana”/preppy for me.

 

[nicole0612]

@nicole0612
This is for you for some fun! Pick a rainbow motif! It’s there, so you can see it.

It’s not real though, it’s the lighting. All of them have silver overtone, and they all match. It’s 100% lighting.
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Thank you so much! This is exactly what I needed to hear. I would buy this in a second if it really looked like this. I will just assume that the rainbow WG MOP I saw photos of was due to the angle and lighting and would not look that way in real day to day life.

 

[nicole0612]

The WMOP WG “white” 10, standard issue, as it seems!

 

[eternallove4bag]

i love the sapphire heart looped with the chain, and your idea for perlee clover (I like playing with my stuff) but I really get this bc I really dislike Bzerol; it reminds me too much of duty free shopping

@BigAkoya , do you wear chalcedony? It doesn’t work with my skintone, but I think it might be nice with your summer wardrobe

I am so happy I am not the only one… no offense to anyone who owns it. It’s just a personal non-preference.

 

[880]

plain white just does not do anything for me. It’s too “Americana”/preppy for me

Yes this! At least on me.

 

[Deleted member 626500]

I more meant this in a hypothetical world where you had unlimited money what would be your choice just as a fun question
But I’ve actually never tried on malachite. Ive seen it many times in the store but never gravitated towards it, im not really a green person but I’ve seen so many stunning photos of it being worn and in jewelry boxes. I should try it on when I am in the store next to see if it even works on my skin.
Not even sure I could get Lapis even if I wanted it…I did however see it in the Place Vendome store last Summer. Sevres porcelain would be because I would have the whole matching set then. Oh the never ending wishlist….
The only 20 I’ve actually ever tried on was the sevres porcelain, and I was wearing an outfit that just absolutely did not work with it, and I never doubled it (the long length looked funny on me?) so I immediately wrote it off. I am however reconsidering the option for the future, not sure what version of it though. An SO with RG, white MOP and pave would be pretty!
I also have never tried on a 10…the doubled 20 may be too busy around the face.

Hands down-alternating turquoise/pave.