VCA ~ Van Cleef Arpels Discussion thread!

[eternallove4bag]

Interestingly, another SA told me I could order a single yellow sapphire butterfly if I owned the pink sapphire set. Even showed me the price. So I am not sure there are any set rules.

I also tried on the yg pave butterfly earrings today. I love the shape and size for me. The store only had the lapis and tq pairs, so I could not try the pink sapphire or wg pave but they seem to be in stock in other stores. They had the wg and pink ring so I held it up to my ear for colour reference. I think I found a winner but will take some time to ponder the purchase and see if I can try the actual pair. Would like to see if I can find the yellow sapphire pair too before I decide.
Here is the yg pave earring, the pink ring for colour reference on my ear and with my noeud. I do not see myself getting the ring as it looked so small compared to noeud. But it makes a beautiful earring set to wear with noeud. I was out with my fam so in a rush and hence my pictures are dark.

I absolutely love the sapphire and WG pave earrings on you. And with the matching BTF ring, it’s perfection. The BTF ring is definitely smaller compared to the Noeud ring but I am sure you would not wear them together. And when worn separately, it gives you options to wear for different occasions. There are times I absolutely love my bold rings but then there are times and places where the big rings are just not appropriate and I like the more understated yet elegant look. I like having a mix of bold and sedate pieces but that’s just me.

 

[lynne_ross]

I absolutely love the sapphire and WG pave earrings on you. And with the matching BTF ring, it’s perfection. The BTF ring is definitely smaller compared to the Noeud ring but I am sure you would not wear them together. And when worn separately, it gives you options to wear for different occasions. There are times I absolutely love my bold rings but then there are times and places where the big rings are just not appropriate and I like the more understated yet elegant look. I like having a mix of bold and sedate pieces but that’s just me.

Thanks! I love the earrings.
I was really meh about the ring. It just seemed so small to me and I would rather wear my diamond rings at that size. I agree they would look so pretty as a set but I am not a set person.

 

[BigAkoya]

I wish they would make lapis pave 10 motif, and my second wish is that it would be available for regular customers to buy! I’ll just keep wishing for the next 20 years

Can you get a 20 lapis pave and wear it doubled? I know it's not the same, but at least the 20s are available for purchase. I am sure your SA could get you one... before all lapis Alhambra is forever gone... like turquoise, coral...

 

[lynne_ross]

Can you get a 20 lapis pave and wear it doubled? I know it's not the same, but at least the 20s are available for purchase. I am sure your SA could get you one... before all lapis Alhambra is forever gone... like turquoise, coral...

I find the 20 double wrapped too busy. If I were to get alternating I want a 10 and would make it shorter closer to choker style. I am sure vca will eventually release more options.

 

[BigAkoya]

Sounds like onyx wg is the winner.
What other stone did they ask you if you would consider for Hellebore?
I wore my lapis bracelet yesterday…wish I could get more pieces but nothing catches my eye currently made in lapis.

Your are so lucky to have something lapis! I am sure you bracelet is stunning.
They said MOP, and I said I want a happy color. To me MOP looks dead on that ring, especially against the WG and diamonds.
I was thinking of asking for turquoise since turquoise is now available in the butterfly collection, so I would think they could carve out make a few Hellebore leaves in turquoise. However, I don't think Hellebore looks good in turquoise. To me, turquoise is a gentle stone, it makes me feel dreamy, summery, and laid-back when I wear my Tiffany turquoise set. I also love VA turquoise (my dream set) as the motifs are soft and rounded. With Hellebore, the leaves are spiked, so Hellebore is a harsh, bold design to me, definitely not soft. I feel the Hellebore design (harsh) mixed with turquoise (soft) does not go well.

I thought about carnelian, but my SA said carnelian for a SO is a hit or miss, and he would hate for it to be a miss with me. I told my SA I really really want lapis. He said he is going to ask his regional VP for help (whatever that means). I don't think they will offer this ring in lapis, at least not to me. I am sure if some VIP asked for a entire lapis Hellebore set, that client would get it, but I'm not a VIP. I have to beg (my knees hurt from begging... ). If I get a no, I will really let this go and move on. I am sure I will find a new love soon!

Hellebore also came in a BTF version, with one MOP and one turquoise flower. It didn't wow me. I posted a photo here so you can see. The first photo is the lapis ring I tried on that was made for another client, the single lapis flower.
The second photo shows the BTF version. Imagine a single turquoise or a single MOP flower. Neither speak to me, and certainly not the MOP. On the MOP, as I mentioned earlier, I think Hellebore looks dead as a single flower in MOP. If you cover everything with your hand and only look at the MOP flower, to me there is no life to that MOP flower.

I would love to hear your thoughts on a happy color stone. I thought about blue agate, but it's so translucent it definitely will not look good. Oynx is too harsh for this ring.

 

[BigAkoya]

BigA other thought I had was if you would consider a vintage 20 wg. I am considering seeing if I can order a 10 as I wear my yg 10 A LOT and thought it would be handy to have wg version. The WG version would go with your mop and an onyx if you wanted layer and it would go with diamond pieces. Just a thought.

No, I don't buy vintage/used anything. That has always been my rule, no matter how much I love something.
I almost had a weak moment and came really close to buying a WG 20 turquoise set. It had a 20 and a 5 motif bracelet as part of the listing. Wow, instant set! All I needed was to hunt for the earrings. Then I saw the turquoise stones looked a bit old, and I would want VCA to replace the stones. Then I read the "super fake" thread and got worried. Then I read VCA may not offer new turquoise stones, only to "clean" them. So many "thens." Then... I smacked myself on the head again and said "nope, don't do it."

 

[lynne_ross]

Your are so lucky to have something lapis! I am sure you bracelet is stunning.
They said MOP, and I said I want a happy color. To me MOP looks dead on that ring, especially against the WG and diamonds.
I was thinking of asking for turquoise since turquoise is now available in the butterfly collection, so I would think they could carve out make a few Hellebore leaves in turquoise. However, I don't think Hellebore looks good in turquoise. To me, turquoise is a gentle stone, it makes me feel dreamy, summery, and laid-back when I wear my Tiffany turquoise set. I also love VA turquoise (my dream set) as the motifs are soft and rounded. With Hellebore, the leaves are spiked, so Hellebore is a harsh, bold design to me, definitely not soft. I feel the Hellebore design (harsh) mixed with turquoise (soft) does not go well.

I thought about carnelian, but my SA said carnelian for a SO is a hit or miss, and he would hate for it to be a miss with me. I told my SA I really really want lapis. He said he is going to ask his regional VP for help (whatever that means). I don't think they will offer this ring in lapis, at least not to me. I am sure if some VIP asked for a entire lapis Hellebore set, that client would get it, but I'm not a VIP. I have to beg (my knees hurt from begging... ). If I get a no, I will really let this go and move on. I am sure I will find a new love soon!

Hellebore also came in a BTF version, with one MOP and one turquoise flower. It didn't wow me. I posted a photo here so you can see. The first photo is the lapis ring I tried on that was made for another client, the single lapis flower.
The second photo shows the BTF version. Imagine a single turquoise or a single MOP flower. Neither speak to me, and certainly not the MOP. On the MOP, as I mentioned earlier, I think Hellebore looks dead as a single flower in MOP. If you cover everything with your hand and only look at the MOP flower, to me there is no life to that MOP flower.

I would love to hear your thoughts on a happy color stone. I thought about blue agate, but it's so translucent it definitely will not look good. Oynx is too harsh for this ring.

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I agree with you and lapis is the best for the ring. I am lost on any other option. If you really want it in lapis I would just keep asking. On the UK site today there is almost every size of lapis butterfly rings. RDN pop up in lapis too. I am not convinced any of these stones are in short supply for vca and it is a marketing ploy. So I would just wait it out.
Our wise try the Mariah butterfly ring. I saw it today in store and it is so spectacular. I could not see any anger in that butterfly haha!

 

[lynne_ross]

No, I don't buy vintage/used anything. That has always been my rule, no matter how much I love something.
I almost had a weak moment and came really close to buying a WG 20 turquoise set. It had a 20 and a 5 motif bracelet as part of the listing. Wow, instant set! All I needed was to hunt for the earrings. Then I saw the turquoise stones looked a bit old, and I would want VCA to replace the stones. Then I read the "super fake" thread and got worried. Then I read VCA may not offer new turquoise stones, only to "clean" them. So many "thens." Then... I smacked myself on the head again and said "nope, don't do it."

I meant the wg hammered 20 motif, assuming you can SO. I am same and only buy from store as I have no eye for details and would be easily fooled by a fake.

 

[BigAkoya]

Interestingly, another SA told me I could order a single yellow sapphire butterfly if I owned the pink sapphire set. Even showed me the price. So I am not sure there are any set rules.

I also tried on the yg pave butterfly earrings today. I love the shape and size for me. The store only had the lapis and tq pairs, so I could not try the pink sapphire or wg pave but they seem to be in stock in other stores. They had the wg and pink ring so I held it up to my ear for colour reference. I think I found a winner but will take some time to ponder the purchase and see if I can try the actual pair. Would like to see if I can find the yellow sapphire pair too before I decide.
Here is the yg pave earring, the pink ring for colour reference on my ear and with my noeud. I do not see myself getting the ring as it looked so small compared to noeud. But it makes a beautiful earring set to wear with noeud. I was out with my fam so in a rush and hence my pictures are dark.

Wow... I love the butterfly earrings on you, and the pink sapphire to me is the winner! It goes great with your Noeud ring as it brings out the RG. So gorgeous. Plus, I think we talked about yellow sapphire vs yellow diamond. For "yellow" stones, I think yellow diamond is the way to go.

Thank you also for your thoughts on the BTF butterfly ring and posting the comparison shot. I agree, the butterfly is a bit small, especially if you are used to big statement rings.

I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the yellow sapphire vs. the pink sapphire. The pink sapphire stunning!

 

[lolakitten]

Interestingly, another SA told me I could order a single yellow sapphire butterfly if I owned the pink sapphire set. Even showed me the price. So I am not sure there are any set rules.

I also tried on the yg pave butterfly earrings today. I love the shape and size for me. The store only had the lapis and tq pairs, so I could not try the pink sapphire or wg pave but they seem to be in stock in other stores. They had the wg and pink ring so I held it up to my ear for colour reference. I think I found a winner but will take some time to ponder the purchase and see if I can try the actual pair. Would like to see if I can find the yellow sapphire pair too before I decide.
Here is the yg pave earring, the pink ring for colour reference on my ear and with my noeud. I do not see myself getting the ring as it looked so small compared to noeud. But it makes a beautiful earring set to wear with noeud. I was out with my fam so in a rush and hence my pictures are dark.

Oh my I Looooooove the pink butterfly on you

 

[BigAkoya]

I meant the wg hammered 20 motif, assuming you can SO. I am same and only buy from store as I have no eye for details and would be easily fooled by a fake.

Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. I'm not a fan of WG hammered; it's too much metal for my liking. For some reason, I have in my head a 20 should be 20 perfectly matched colored stones.

It's Sunday morning here on the US East Coast, I'm having my tea with cream & sugar, and a lovely blueberry scone with strawberry jam. I'm going to build an oynx set again and see what I come up with. Cosmos BTF oynx is back in my head again. I hope I don't have to smack myself again.

 

[thp54]

I’m deciding between a yg frivole pave small pendant and a wg frivole pave ring. Which one do you think looks better?
of note, I own a mini frivole wg pave diamond earrings so I’m not sure if it’s wiser to keep buying more wg pieces or to buy the yg pave necklace which I really love.

 

[millerc]

I’m deciding between a yg frivole pave small pendant and a wg frivole pave ring. Which one do you think looks better?
of note, I own a mini frivole wg pave diamond earrings so I’m not sure if it’s wiser to keep buying more wg pieces or to buy the yg pave necklace which I really love.

I think the pendant looks better. The yg really brings out the highlights in your hair and looks good with your skintone. And you said it's the one you really love.

 

[pinky7129]

I’m deciding between a yg frivole pave small pendant and a wg frivole pave ring. Which one do you think looks better?
of note, I own a mini frivole wg pave diamond earrings so I’m not sure if it’s wiser to keep buying more wg pieces or to buy the yg pave necklace which I really love.

you look amazing with the necklace!
The ring just … disappears where the necklace pops!

 

[missie1]

Interestingly, another SA told me I could order a single yellow sapphire butterfly if I owned the pink sapphire set. Even showed me the price. So I am not sure there are any set rules.

I also tried on the yg pave butterfly earrings today. I love the shape and size for me. The store only had the lapis and tq pairs, so I could not try the pink sapphire or wg pave but they seem to be in stock in other stores. They had the wg and pink ring so I held it up to my ear for colour reference. I think I found a winner but will take some time to ponder the purchase and see if I can try the actual pair. Would like to see if I can find the yellow sapphire pair too before I decide.
Here is the yg pave earring, the pink ring for colour reference on my ear and with my noeud. I do not see myself getting the ring as it looked so small compared to noeud. But it makes a beautiful earring set to wear with noeud. I was out with my fam so in a rush and hence my pictures are dark.

The earrings are amazing