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Thank you so much! I really appreciate this! I originally wanted carnelian too as the red looks so regal online. I didn’t know the stone could get darker with time, thank you…perhaps it’s best to go with carnelian over black. Stay tuned!
Hi! I did not mean to imply Carnelian gets darker. Carnelian is a translucent stone, meaning you can see through it. More importantly, translucent stones will change color depending on the underlying material it sits on. In the case of a bracelet, it will sit on skin. If you wear a 20 motif, it will sit on top of clothes.

If you hold the bracelet up in the air, the carnelian shade will look different, and if you place it on a white sheet of paper, it will again look different. That was the point I wanted to make. You need to love it when it sits on your skin, and in my opinion, while wearing it at home, at night, in indoor lighting.

Carnelian will never be red... it will either be orange-red (drop of yellow) or brick/claret red (drop of brown). You get the idea... you just need to pick the secondary color you can live with in the absence of pure red.

Black is nice and bold, but black to me is not a happy bold. If you want a happy bold color, blue agate and orange-red carnelian would be the top two picks for me. On blue agate vs. carnelian since we're splitting hairs... Blue agate is gorgeous to me. I love that pop of blue, super stunning. The tradeoff is, to me, blue agate is a summer color, and I can't see myself wearing that with the dark colors of winter. Carnelian is year round... summer and winter.

All that said... I know you did not mention YG MOP. Have you considered MOP? It's not a happy color as you wanted, but to me it pops! MOP just glows against skin, and it matches everything. Just another idea in case you might be interested in MOP.

It's 100% preference on what you like. Good luck to you!
 
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Does anyone have enabling photos of a 10 or 20 motif necklace in Tigers Eye being worn? (Can be photos from the internet). I am feeling so tempted to ask for one with pretty yellow tones as they become harder to find. I have thought about this for years now, and each time a friend talks me out of it due to the color/stone not being as popular or “desirable”, but I think I should just accept that I love unique items that not everyone loves! Thanks :heart:
I think you should go for it if you have been thinking about it for years. They obviously make tiger's eye because it sells. Is it the top seller? No, but top sellers tend to be the classics. Be different. Let people drool and say "wow, I've never seen tiger's eye before... it's so gorgeous."

If you get a 20, it will not hang against skin which is the problem. It will hang against clothes, and it will pop. Tiger's eye will look very very different on 20... imagine your tiger's eye 20 hanging against a black top, a red top, or even a white top. Think black top, black skinny jeans, Chanel beige ballet flats, matching Chanel Beige Claire bag! :nuts: :heart: You can channel Audrey Hepburn.
Any other color except beige (e.g. skin color) will make the tiger's eye pop. The striations will be stunning and look almost like liquid gold.

I say order it before it is discontinued. Grab it!

EDIT: Here is a photo I found on the website. Gorgeous... just don't wear tiger's eye against skin. It needs a contrast color such as black as a background to make the tiger's eye pop.

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I think you should go for it if you have been thinking about it for years. They obviously make tiger's eye because it sells. Is it the top seller? No, but top sellers tend to be the classics. Be different. Let people drool and say "wow, I've never seen tiger's eye before... it's so gorgeous."

If you get a 20, it will not hang against skin which is the problem. It will hang against clothes, and it will pop. Tiger's eye will look very very different on 20... imagine your tiger's eye 20 hanging against a black top, a red top, or even a white top. Think black top, black skinny jeans, Chanel beige ballet flats, matching Chanel Beige Claire bag! :nuts: :heart: You can channel Audrey Hepburn.
Any other color except beige (e.g. skin color) will make the tiger's eye pop. The striations will be stunning and look almost like liquid gold.

I say order it before it is discontinued. Grab it!

EDIT: Here is a photo I found on the website. Gorgeous... just don't wear tiger's eye against skin. It needs a contrast color such as black as a background to make the tiger's eye pop.

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Thank you for the enabling me! I think it will stand out against my skin even, since I have no tan at all, more like ecru with blue undertones, but regardless, the necklace would hang over my top since I always wear either 10+5 or 20s, and I wear black, dark blue and charcoal tops most often. I think TE is so pretty with ecru/white/off white as well (for example, the two motif butterfly earrings).
 
Thank you for the enabling me! I think it will stand out against my skin even, since I have no tan at all, more like ecru with blue undertones, but regardless, the necklace would hang over my top since I always wear either 10+5 or 20s, and I wear black, dark blue and charcoal tops most often. I think TE is so pretty with ecru/white/off white as well (for example, the two motif butterfly earrings).
Blue, black, and charcoal would be fabulous with it.
Aside from black (I love black), I think a deep marine blue would be stunning. Think of it as lapis in reverse. Your deep marine blue is the lapis background, and the tiger's eye are pops of "gold" you see in lapis. Blue and gold are beautiful to me.

Yes to white also. I love white in the summer, and if I had that necklace, I would wear a white top, my red skinny Bermuda shorts, my Chanel beige espadrilles, and that tiger's eye 20! Super fun. For a more muted and elegant look... an ivory top and camel pants. Then, toss on that tiger's eye. So many options for both winter and summer.

One more thought... you, the animal clips expert! :nuts:
Do you have the super cute little lion? He would look fabulous hiding and hanging on your 20! He would not pop, he would blend in, but that's the whole point. Navy top, 20 tiger's eye, with a sneaky little lion hiding in the clovers. That would be beyond super cute to me. Just a thought to grab him if you might be interested.
 
Hi! I did not mean to imply Carnelian gets darker. Carnelian is a translucent stone, meaning you can see through it. More importantly, translucent stones will change color depending on the underlying material it sits on. In the case of a bracelet, it will sit on skin. If you wear a 20 motif, it will sit on top of clothes.

If you hold the bracelet up in the air, the carnelian shade will look different, and if you place it on a white sheet of paper, it will again look different. That was the point I wanted to make. You need to love it when it sits on your skin, and in my opinion, while wearing it at home, at night, in indoor lighting.

Carnelian will never be red... it will either be orange-red (drop of yellow) or brick/claret red (drop of brown). You get the idea... you just need to pick the secondary color you can live with in the absence of pure red.

Black is nice and bold, but black to me is not a happy bold. If you want a happy bold color, blue agate and orange-red carnelian would be the top two picks for me. On blue agate vs. carnelian since we're splitting hairs... Blue agate is gorgeous to me. I love that pop of blue, super stunning. The tradeoff is, to me, blue agate is a summer color, and I can't see myself wearing that with the dark colors of winter. Carnelian is year round... summer and winter.

All that said... I know you did not mention YG MOP. Have you considered MOP? It's not a happy color as you wanted, but to me it pops! MOP just glows against skin, and it matches everything. Just another idea in case you might be interested in MOP.

It's 100% preference on what you like. Good luck to you!
This is great thank you so much for the details! I did want happy color… rough few years battling breast cancer and losing my mom
I really appreciate this thank you for the in depth expertise!
 
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Blue, black, and charcoal would be fabulous with it.
Aside from black (I love black), I think a deep marine blue would be stunning. Think of it as lapis in reverse. Your deep marine blue is the lapis background, and the tiger's eye are pops of "gold" you see in lapis. Blue and gold are beautiful to me.

Yes to white also. I love white in the summer, and if I had that necklace, I would wear a white top, my red skinny Bermuda shorts, my Chanel beige espadrilles, and that tiger's eye 20! Super fun. For a more muted and elegant look... an ivory top and camel pants. Then, toss on that tiger's eye. So many options for both winter and summer.

One more thought... you, the animal clips expert! :nuts:
Do you have the super cute little lion? He would look fabulous hiding and hanging on your 20! He would not pop, he would blend in, but that's the whole point. Navy top, 20 tiger's eye, with a sneaky little lion hiding in the clovers. That would be beyond super cute to me. Just a thought to grab him if you might be interested.
Thank you for all of the creative ideas! I’m not great at pairing outfits and jewelry, so it’s always nice to get another perspective. The tone on tone TE clip and necklace is an interesting idea, one more thing to think about.
 
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I wholeheartedly 2nd all of this!
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I wish I can get a Daytona. It’s like a unicorn even years ago. My DH’s cousin was looking for one about 15 years ago and ended up getting one when he visited Singapore. I heard that there’s more available in Europe but I’m not heading that way soon. I’m quite open to different models as long as they are the right size and available. Last August when we were in Hawaii, the boutique didn’t get any new shipment for the whole 2 weeks we were there. Finger crossed.

@WingNut, your watch is absolutely gorgeous!

@BigAkoya, I love your watch! I’m almost afraid to go to Rolex next week for fear of disappointment (in lack of stock).

I’m resorting to watching Rolex unboxing on YT for entertainment last night. Lol.

I’m also checking all the VCA pics here on tPF for inspiration. Too many combos to drool lover. Will let you know if I find anything in Hawaii. I always love getting things when I’m there. Best type of anniversary gifts and souvenirs ever.
 
Thank you for the enabling me! I think it will stand out against my skin even, since I have no tan at all, more like ecru with blue undertones, but regardless, the necklace would hang over my top since I always wear either 10+5 or 20s, and I wear black, dark blue and charcoal tops most often. I think TE is so pretty with ecru/white/off white as well (for example, the two motif butterfly earrings).
I wear my TE VCA VA bracelet against my skin and it is fine. It depends on your skin undertones!
 
nicole, I am attaching a pic that started my love of TE. This is from a TPF member from many years ago, I have not seen her recently but her stunning photo sold me on the stone. Her coloring is similar to mine and for me this is a great everyday look that can be worn over and over with sweaters, jackets and other things so beautifully. I love TE and as Big A stated, it is a true classic. Greycat tiger 10 motif, yg alhambra clips.jpg
 
nicole, I am attaching a pic that started my love of TE. This is from a TPF member from many years ago, I have not seen her recently but her stunning photo sold me on the stone. Her coloring is similar to mine and for me this is a great everyday look that can be worn over and over with sweaters, jackets and other things so beautifully. I love TE and as Big A stated, it is a true classic. View attachment 5343596
Thank you Snowball. What a gorgeous neutral, thanks for posting the photo. I even have these earrings, in vintage size.
 
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Does anyone have enabling photos of a 10 or 20 motif necklace in Tigers Eye being worn? (Can be photos from the internet). I am feeling so tempted to ask for one with pretty yellow tones as they become harder to find. I have thought about this for years now, and each time a friend talks me out of it due to the color/stone not being as popular or “desirable”, but I think I should just accept that I love unique items that not everyone loves! Thanks :heart:
Oh I want to see this too. I love tiger eye. I think it is one of the prettier stones and goes so well with many colour of clothing.
 
nicole, I am attaching a pic that started my love of TE. This is from a TPF member from many years ago, I have not seen her recently but her stunning photo sold me on the stone. Her coloring is similar to mine and for me this is a great everyday look that can be worn over and over with sweaters, jackets and other things so beautifully. I love TE and as Big A stated, it is a true classic. View attachment 5343596
That is a gorgeous necklace. Dreaming now too.
 
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