VCA ~ Van Cleef Arpels Discussion thread!

[BigAkoya]

So I went back to the boutique and tried all three rings again (albeit single row in RG as my SA didn’t have in YG yet). I have come to a decision!
First of all, I decided that whichever ring I get, I do want to wear it on my right ring finger rather than on my middle finger. This rules out the single row as I just can’t unsee it as a wedding ring when worn on this finger.
So, after much deliberating between the original clover and the sweet, I have decided on the original clover ring! My initial thoughts that it was too chunky changed the more and more I tried it on. I went back and forth between the two rings and the more I ‘got used’ to the look of the original, I just love it so much. I have quite long fingers and it just has a bit more presence than the sweet and the design is just so amazing I have always loved the original clover and can’t believe it will be mine!
Next dilemma was sizing… I tried a 54 and a 53, both were comfortable and at first I was leaning towards the 53 as I am so paranoid that the 54 might fall off. I think I’ve now decided on the 54 though to allow for swelling (I was trying on in an airconditioned store but I live in a tropical climate). I would also be worried that my knuckles might get bigger with age… is this a sensible decision?
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Congratulations! It looks beautiful on you! And yes, I think getting the size up is the best decision. I buy all my rings loose, and I wear them so loose on a skinny finger day, I can probably flick the off if I tried. But the looseness comes in handy on hot humid days and especially if your fingers get larger (my fingers grew one ring size, yet I am the same weight).

Beautiful ring, and it looks amazing with your matching bracelet! Congratulations to you!

 

[missie1]

Stunning! Love the rg onyx & the grey mop pave

Thank you. I really love how GMOP goes dark when paired with the Onyx.

 

[BigAkoya]

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I recently purchased the 3 motif gold earrings. I absolutely love them, however, the gray magic motif (left earring) has a dark inclusion on the stone. I asked my SA about it and he does not think it’s a big deal (he was kind about it).
Would this bother you? I’d love your perspective - Please help

I think it gives is character and makes it unique! Too "perfect" and MOP begins to look plain for me.

 

[BigAkoya]

Interesting. I remember them having big presence but thought same size as small frivoles. Will need to try again.

I tried on the Cosmos RG MOP earrings, and to me, Cosmos has more presence than Frivole. However, Cosmos is not a unique look to me. When I wear Frivole, it's a very distinctive design, 3D, three angled heart-shaped petals. The flower seems to come alive and bloom at you.

For Cosmos, I felt that while beautiful in its own way, it came across as just another "flower earring" that can be purchased at a local jewelry store. It was much prettier than I expected, but a little bit flat. The RG metal bezel helped a bit. It shows slightly bigger on me than Frivole, but I did not get the same excitement nor did my ears "pop" as with the Frivole pave earrings. Yes, Cosmos was pretty, but there is something about Cosmos that make me feel it's a bit 1980s "Dynasty" jewelry. I think because the flower is a bit too symmetrical, but I can't exactly put my finger on it.

When you try both on, aside from the size and presence, I would look at both as generic jewelry pieces (take off the VCA label in your mind) and see what speaks to you in terms of artistic design. I probably biased toward Frivole.

Then there's Flowerlace... I just love this collection, but I can't seem to find pieces that work for me.
If you want big flower earrings, Flowerlace is absolutely stunning. I tried those on. The flower is so nice and huge, yet it's so airy, it looks graceful. I love Flowerlace, but unfortunately, the big earrings won't work with my little loser ear lobes. See if you can try them on also next time you're at the boutique. Definitely beautiful statement earrings if you like big earrings.

 

[BigAkoya]

Finally opened my onyx rg bracelet and wanted to show all the MTO RG Alhambra bracelets avail for special order. I’m finally done with my RG stack. Now on to WG

So beautiful! They are so well coordinated and make a beautiful set! Congratulations!

 

[BigAkoya]

Thanks so much. I was so nervous as I didn’t have a visual from anyone else with RG but I’m so glad I took plunge. I so love my stack. I still need to figure out 10 vs 20 and what stone but I’m not forcing it. I’ll take my time and figure it out.

I vote a 20 MOP. Your stack has a lot of GMOP, oynx is very bold, and you have one MOP.
The 20 MOP will glow and it will pick up the MOP bracelet and tie it all together nicely. A 20 GMOP I think would be too much GMOP. A 20 oynx I think will take away from your stack (too much black everyone and the eye goes bonkers trying to figure out what it's looking at). Unless of course you want a "dark" look which then a 20 oynx would be beautiful. I think a 20 MOP will be bright and glow.
That's just my two cents of course. Whatever you choose, it will be a beautiful set! Choose a 20!

 

[lynne_ross]

I tried on the Cosmos RG MOP earrings, and to me, Cosmos has more presence than Frivole. However, Cosmos is not a unique look to me. When I wear Frivole, it's a very distinctive design, 3D, three angled heart-shaped petals. The flower seems to come alive and bloom at you.

For Cosmos, I felt that while beautiful in its own way, it came across as just another "flower earring" that can be purchased at a local jewelry store. It was much prettier than I expected, but a little bit flat. The RG metal bezel helped a bit. It shows slightly bigger on me than Frivole, but I did not get the same excitement nor did my ears "pop" as with the Frivole pave earrings. Yes, Cosmos was pretty, but there is something about Cosmos that make me feel it's a bit 1980s "Dynasty" jewelry. I think because the flower is a bit too symmetrical, but I can't exactly put my finger on it.

When you try both on, aside from the size and presence, I would look at both as generic jewelry pieces (take off the VCA label in your mind) and see what speaks to you in terms of artistic design. I probably biased toward Frivole.

Then there's Flowerlace... I just love this collection, but I can't seem to find pieces that work for me.
If you want big flower earrings, Flowerlace is absolutely stunning. I tried those on. The flower is so nice and huge, yet it's so airy, it looks graceful. I love Flowerlace, but unfortunately, the big earrings won't work with my little loser ear lobes. See if you can try them on also next time you're at the boutique. Definitely beautiful statement earrings if you like big earrings.

I own frivoles and love the design but I also love the RG mop Cosmo. I am drawn to the heart petals and the twist that one petal is diamond. Dynasty is a good comparison and a reason I love them. I see myself aging into Cosmo well.
I am not a fan of flowerlace. They really do not suit me.

 

[BigAkoya]

Update on the Hellebore collection if anyone is considering purchasing pieces...

I ordered the Hellebore lapis ring on Oct 23. My SA just got an update from VCA saying they cannot commit to making the ring in lapis at this time. They refunded me and said I can try again at a later date. They offered MOP and also earrings can be made in MOP. "But I want lapis! You made one for the other lady! What about me? I'm going to have a temper tantrum!"
Just kidding.

I was disappointed, but oh well, such is life, and nothing is a must have. Time to move on and work on the next acquisition!
My SA said he will be on the lookout for anything blue in WG for me (I am batting zero with blue in 2021... no blue agate set, no Hellebore lapis ring). Of course, my guess is if I were a big spender VIP, VCA may find a few lapis rocks.

So... in case anyone is interested... you can still get Hellebore, but only in MOP for now. Things may change of course, but, they will not accept lapis orders at this time.

 

[A bottle of Red]

Update on the Hellebore collection if anyone is considering purchasing pieces...

I ordered the Hellebore lapis ring on Oct 23. My SA just got an update from VCA saying they cannot commit to making the ring in lapis at this time. They refunded me and said I can try again at a later date. They offered MOP and also earrings can be made in MOP. "But I want lapis! You made one for the other lady! What about me? I'm going to have a temper tantrum!"
Just kidding.

I was disappointed, but oh well, such is life, and nothing is a must have. Time to move on and work on the next acquisition!
My SA said he will be on the lookout for anything blue in WG for me (I am batting zero with blue in 2021... no blue agate set, no Hellebore lapis ring). Of course, my guess is if I were a big spender VIP, VCA may find a few lapis rocks.

So... in case anyone is interested... you can still get Hellebore, but only in MOP for now. Things may change of course, but, they will not accept lapis orders at this time.

Oh no that is so sad I am so sorry for you!

 

[BigAkoya]

I own frivoles and love the design but I also love the RG mop Cosmo. I am drawn to the heart petals and the twist that one petal is diamond. Dynasty is a good comparison and a reason I love them. I see myself aging into Cosmo well.
I am not a fan of flowerlace. They really do not suit me.

If you love RG Cosmos, to me, they definitely have a bigger presence, so you will like them a lot.
For me, the order of how much presence they are on your ears are:
Cosmos (because they are big and there is so much MOP that glows).
Frivole (super sparkly, can't miss them)
Lotus (they are small to me, even on my little earlobe... size-wise, I could probably wear the medium, but they would be too heavy and kill my ear lobes).

By the way, I think RG Cosmos earrings would look amazing with Noeud as it will highlight the RG. Both Cosmos and Neoud has soft rounded edges too.

 

[glamourbag]

Update on the Hellebore collection if anyone is considering purchasing pieces...

I ordered the Hellebore lapis ring on Oct 23. My SA just got an update from VCA saying they cannot commit to making the ring in lapis at this time. They refunded me and said I can try again at a later date. They offered MOP and also earrings can be made in MOP. "But I want lapis! You made one for the other lady! What about me? I'm going to have a temper tantrum!"
Just kidding.

I was disappointed, but oh well, such is life, and nothing is a must have. Time to move on and work on the next acquisition!
My SA said he will be on the lookout for anything blue in WG for me (I am batting zero with blue in 2021... no blue agate set, no Hellebore lapis ring). Of course, my guess is if I were a big spender VIP, VCA may find a few lapis rocks.

So... in case anyone is interested... you can still get Hellebore, but only in MOP for now. Things may change of course, but, they will not accept lapis orders at this time.

Oh... that's disappointing. I dont understand why they would introduce a collection if they know in a years time they cannot offer it...I agree...its not going to be the same in MOP. It would be pretty but not nearly as impactful. Here is to hoping 2022 brings you something that catches your eye.

 

[missie1]

So beautiful! They are so well coordinated and make a beautiful set! Congratulations!

Thank you so much. I couldn’t have done this without all of you wonderful ladies and your invaluable posts which helped guide me.

 

[missie1]

I vote a 20 MOP. Your stack has a lot of GMOP, oynx is very bold, and you have one MOP.
The 20 MOP will glow and it will pick up the MOP bracelet and tie it all together nicely. A 20 GMOP I think would be too much GMOP. A 20 oynx I think will take away from your stack (too much black everyone and the eye goes bonkers trying to figure out what it's looking at). Unless of course you want a "dark" look which then a 20 oynx would be beautiful. I think a 20 MOP will be bright and glow.
That's just my two cents of course. Whatever you choose, it will be a beautiful set! Choose a 20!

As usual your insight always provides a different perspective. I was undecided between GMOP and MOP but I definitely think MOP will lighten it up and keep set from looking so dark. I think for the 1st necklace it should be MOP. I was considering 2 tens one in each stone but I gotta see with the right shirt on when I get to the store. Maybe we will fly into Vegas next month for a weekend and I can try few on there. Our nearest store is in Chicago

 

[lynne_ross]

Update on the Hellebore collection if anyone is considering purchasing pieces...

I ordered the Hellebore lapis ring on Oct 23. My SA just got an update from VCA saying they cannot commit to making the ring in lapis at this time. They refunded me and said I can try again at a later date. They offered MOP and also earrings can be made in MOP. "But I want lapis! You made one for the other lady! What about me? I'm going to have a temper tantrum!"
Just kidding.

I was disappointed, but oh well, such is life, and nothing is a must have. Time to move on and work on the next acquisition!
My SA said he will be on the lookout for anything blue in WG for me (I am batting zero with blue in 2021... no blue agate set, no Hellebore lapis ring). Of course, my guess is if I were a big spender VIP, VCA may find a few lapis rocks.

So... in case anyone is interested... you can still get Hellebore, but only in MOP for now. Things may change of course, but, they will not accept lapis orders at this time.

That is disappointing. I thought they might have enough lapis with all the rdn pieces they made recently. I love lapis but not a rdn fan. Was hoping other lapis pieces would launch. You do really need to jump on pieces when they first come out or it is hard to get later on. Lesson I am learning.

 

[missie1]

Update on the Hellebore collection if anyone is considering purchasing pieces...

I ordered the Hellebore lapis ring on Oct 23. My SA just got an update from VCA saying they cannot commit to making the ring in lapis at this time. They refunded me and said I can try again at a later date. They offered MOP and also earrings can be made in MOP. "But I want lapis! You made one for the other lady! What about me? I'm going to have a temper tantrum!"
Just kidding.

I was disappointed, but oh well, such is life, and nothing is a must have. Time to move on and work on the next acquisition!
My SA said he will be on the lookout for anything blue in WG for me (I am batting zero with blue in 2021... no blue agate set, no Hellebore lapis ring). Of course, my guess is if I were a big spender VIP, VCA may find a few lapis rocks.

So... in case anyone is interested... you can still get Hellebore, but only in MOP for now. Things may change of course, but, they will not accept lapis orders at this time.

Oh no so sad as I know how much you were looking forward to this piece