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I love the Sweet Clover on you. It's chunkier and has character. It has a lot more presence than the single row. To me, the single row looks like a wedding band, especially when worn alone on the fourth finger (e.g. an ex-wedding ring now worn on the right hand). I know others will disagree, but that's what I see when I see that ring worn on the fourth finger alone. The single row ring is nothing more than an eternity band with milgrain bead edges. I find the Sweet Clover much more artistic and interesting. It also goes great with your Sweet Clover bracelet... beautiful together!

Just my two cents. Hope that helps in your decision. Good luck!
Exactly what I thought and why I got the Sweet Clover :heart::biggrin:
 
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Oh yes, that’s true… I see what you mean. Do you think the single row would look better if work on the middle finger?
Having tried both rings, I do like them both but am very aware that the single row is much better value (as much as any VCA can be considered good value) considering the carats vs. the sweet clover… I had also started to think that the single row is more timeless and elegant?
Hi! Here are my thoughts, and of course, it's just one person's opinion.

I personally do not like the one row. It's plain and does not make any statement, like a plain eternity ring which is not my personal style. Also, if you like the VCA look, for the 95% of the population who has no clue what VCA is, it will look like an eternity band. Yes, the classic eternity band married ladies wear. I supposed you can say all eternity bands are timeless. I would suggest asking yourself would you still love that thin eternity band look if the ring were a non-branded ring, not VCA? Would you love it if you saw it at Macy's? Also, would you wear the ring alone without your bracelet? I like for each piece of my bling to stand alone, so think about that too.

The Sweet clover ring to me is the better of the two options. It goes great with your bracelet. It is artistic and has style. Is this Sweet clover ring timeless? Not to me. It's youthful. My guess is you will probably tire of it a few years from now, maybe not if you continue to like thin rings.

My vote is to get the classic Clover if you want timeless. It's the best of both worlds... the classic looks great with your bracelet and it's iconic.. a true classic. The price point is higher, but it will last forever. If you can't stomach the higher price point now or if you tried on the classic and find it too thick, my vote is still for the Sweets. It may take a decade for you to tire of the Sweets ring, and that's a lot of years of wear!

As we age, our tastes change. My taste has changed from YG to now all white metal (platinum or WG). I got rid of all my YG. Do I regret it? Not at all. When I was in my YG phase, I loved all my pieces and loved wearing them.

So... my final vote...
Option 1) Get the Classic Clover Ring
Option 2) Get the Sweet Clover Ring. Forget about 10 years down the road or timeless. Life changes. Get it now, stare at it, and get that ear to ear smile every time you look at it.

Just my two cents for a different point of view. Hope that helps.
 
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I think both are very pretty (although I haven't had a chance to try them on), but I agree that a ring with clovers is more distinctively VCA than the single row. I have considered these as an alternative for my wedding set to wear on my left ring finger.
 
So I went back to the boutique this week to try the rings on again….
I’ve changed my mind! I think on my hand (probably due to my large middle knuckle lol), rings do look better on my ring finger and I prefer it to the look on my middle finger.
I tried the sweet clover ring again and also tried the single row diamond perle- I decided I love the single row more than the sweet clover which I wasn’t expecting!
My SA did not have the single row in YG so is going to try and get hold of one for me.
Am I making the right decision? Please excuse the badly angled photos!
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Both are stunning on you but I personally love the single row better than the sweet clover. If you like the clover ring more, my preference would be for the wider version. I know single row perlee ring is less recognizable but it’s elegance is timeless imo. And I love how the diamonds sparkle on the single row! Breathtakingly so.
 
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I was looking at the single row ring and the Estelle ring in white gold and platinum. The pricing is interesting on these, but the Estelle is clearly the better value. I think Estelle only comes in platinum, so this will only work for the people who wear white metals.

Estelle, platinum, 29 stones .79ctw., $8500

Perlee 1 row, white gold, 32 stones .55ctw, $8100


 
I was looking at the single row ring and the Estelle ring in white gold and platinum. The pricing is interesting on these, but the Estelle is clearly the better value. I think Estelle only comes in platinum, so this will only work for the people who wear white metals.

Estelle, platinum, 29 stones .79ctw., $8500

Perlee 1 row, white gold, 32 stones .55ctw, $8100


For an eternity wedding band like you mentioned, I think the Estelle is nice. I like the channel set look with the diamonds in the Estelle. Great thought!
 
I was looking at the single row ring and the Estelle ring in white gold and platinum. The pricing is interesting on these, but the Estelle is clearly the better value. I think Estelle only comes in platinum, so this will only work for the people who wear white metals.

Estelle, platinum, 29 stones .79ctw., $8500

Perlee 1 row, white gold, 32 stones .55ctw, $8100


I actually like the Estelle more and it looks like better value too for people looking for this style.
 
I was looking at the single row ring and the Estelle ring in white gold and platinum. The pricing is interesting on these, but the Estelle is clearly the better value. I think Estelle only comes in platinum, so this will only work for the people who wear white metals.

Estelle, platinum, 29 stones .79ctw., $8500

Perlee 1 row, white gold, 32 stones .55ctw, $8100


I looked at the inner work on both pieces and it looks like the technique they make the rings is a bit different. The Estelle got the extra metal row in the inner circle while the perlee got almost none inner metal. This might mean that perlee requires a bit more work to secure all the stones since it got no obvious inner metal to protect the stones. For the eyes, it looks like perlee is more refined than the Estelle.
 
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I was looking at the single row ring and the Estelle ring in white gold and platinum. The pricing is interesting on these, but the Estelle is clearly the better value. I think Estelle only comes in platinum, so this will only work for the people who wear white metals.

Estelle, platinum, 29 stones .79ctw., $8500

Perlee 1 row, white gold, 32 stones .55ctw, $8100



I was looking at both of these as well as RHR and I always wondered what the difference would look like on the hand. I was leaning towards the Estelle as well due to the platinum and slightly bigger stones but it seems like the Perlee edge is also less pronounced on it. If you or any other ladies get to a boutique before me I would love to see some mod shots of them so we can see the difference! Omicron variant willing, I might be able to travel for the holidays at which point I can hopefully visit a boutique in person since Covid started.
 
Thanks all for your help, I really appreciate your insights! It’s such a difficult decision to make (albeit a very fortunate position to be in). I think I’m torn because I love the clover design but the sweet size does seem to be very overpriced. I did try the classic perlee clover (no photos) but thought it was too chunky. The single row however is gorgeous but as @BigAkoya says, it could look like a wedding band.
However, I agree with @eternallove4bag , it is incredibly sparkly in real life and does look amazing.
So, I have a new plan- I have asked my SA to try and get a larger sized single row for me to try on my middle finger (hopefully will look less wedding like on that finger). I have also asked to try the classic perlee clover again in a larger size for my middle finger (thank you @911snowball , your stunning photo inspired me to try again!). I’m also going to try the sweet clover again to see if I feel any differently.
 
Thanks all for your help, I really appreciate your insights! It’s such a difficult decision to make (albeit a very fortunate position to be in). I think I’m torn because I love the clover design but the sweet size does seem to be very overpriced. I did try the classic perlee clover (no photos) but thought it was too chunky. The single row however is gorgeous but as @BigAkoya says, it could look like a wedding band.
However, I agree with @eternallove4bag , it is incredibly sparkly in real life and does look amazing.
So, I have a new plan- I have asked my SA to try and get a larger sized single row for me to try on my middle finger (hopefully will look less wedding like on that finger). I have also asked to try the classic perlee clover again in a larger size for my middle finger (thank you @911snowball , your stunning photo inspired me to try again!). I’m also going to try the sweet clover again to see if I feel any differently.
Great new plan! I hope you will love the classic perlee clover. I think that is so iconic and timeless. If you do get it, @911snowball gets all the credit for her fabulous photo!

Whatever you decide, all VCA is gorgeous so you can't go wrong. It's personal preference.
Good luck to you! As you can guess, we are all waiting with bated breath to hear what you picked! :biggrin:
 
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