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@BigAkoya and @glamourbag - thank you. I looked at the vault trays but couldn’t figure out how you order them by size. Any words of advice?
Hi! It is exactly as @glamourbag says. You order the tray, and then any inserts you want, and then you pick your lid.

My suggestion on how to go about planning your soon-to-be awesome trays!...
- First, think about what pieces you want to store to asses how deep you want the tray. They come in 1.5", 2", and 4" deep. Think also if you want to store them inside a drawer as the thickness of the drawer will dictate your max depth.
- Next, think about the height of your tallest piece. If you have a big cuff bracelet, a 1.5" depth may be too shallow for the lid to close. I have a Tiffany Bone Cuff which is 2.1" at its tallest which I use a 2" tray. When I put the lid on with an insert, it closes, but there is a tiny tiny tiny gap and the lid wobbles. Well, that annoyed me, so I took out the insert and it closes perfect.
- Finally, stare at the inserts and see if you want any. You can use the tray as-is, like @glamourbag which gives you the most flexibility. Or, you can order inserts.

I posted some pictures of a tray (it's my Tiffany Elsa Peretti silver stuff... which I really like her designs... they are so bold, yet the lines are so clean, soft and fluid).

The tray is the 2" depth tray.
- The first photo is how it is normally stored. There is an insert on the right as you can see, and the insert height is slightly lower than the tray height... it works great.
- The second photo is the insert taken out so you can see what it looks like blank. The inserts are now at the bottom of the photo. You can see I do not use the left insert. This is because my Bone Cuff (upper right cuff bracelet) is too tall once I put the insert in, hence I had to redesign my layout! :nuts: :annoyed:
- The third photo is with the insert back in, and a visual so you can see if I had used both inserts.

I would also think about how you prefer to organize your bling and what type of bling person you are. Are you more a ring person? A bracelet person? A long necklace person? From my photos, you can see I'm more a big jewelry piece person, so tiny little sections in an insert or jewelry box don't work for my pieces. I also prefer to group sets together versus the style of jewelry. As in... I group my turquoise pieces together, my black pieces together, vs. grouping all earrings together. Hence, for me, I like medium size cubby holes to store "sets". I hope that made sense. This is also true of my jewelry box which holds several pieces of a set in the same cubby hole. I hope that made sense. It's all preference of course. The more versatile option is to not use inserts of course as @glamourbag did.

Warning: For me, I find those necklace inserts useless. They look great in photos, but I find them very skinny, mostly good for chains. If you have a substantial necklace or a big pendant on the chain, it looks kind of goofy and gets crowded, to the point the lid may not lay flat over your tray. This is also true of jewelry boxes when you see a lot of "necklace/bracelet" sections. They look beautiful, but not very usable to me. Hence for my necklaces, I like to just put them in an open area. Like pearl strands... they are chunky and take up so much space, so I like big cubby holes to swirl my pearls in them.

Sorry for the long post.. I hope it helps. Take your time, don't rush... it can be a lot of fun planning and buying jewelry boxes. Jewelry is like a hobby... always something new and fun! :biggrin:

CORRECTION: I made an error... Thinking now... I measured my Bone Cuff, and it was 1.9", so it should have just fit. I remember thinking, wow... it fits, but barely, by a tiny fraction. However, I did not factor in the loss of height from the insert, so when I used the insert, the cuff sat higher and the lid had a tiny gap. Just FYI to also factor in the insert if your piece is on the edge of being too tall.

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By any chance could you compare GMOP to onyx ?
Are they too close or very different?
IMO very different. im sure others who own separate pieces will give you a better idea. But I’ll look for a photo of my gmop six motif which has some onyx in it. Onyx top right motif. Clearest pic of GMOP middle left
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@eternallove4bag has a much better pic of GMOP here (her pic more clearly demonstrates how GMOP has enormous depth and almost glows with this inner light, whereas onyx is rich, dense and almost smooth lacquered.
see her post #19355 when you scroll down to the middle of the page
 
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I believe from what I saw and have, they come in a standard, rectangular size and from there you can put in, for ex, half inserts for, say, ring storage on one side of the tray and leave the other side open for bracelets or necklaces, etc. Here is a pic of one of mine - I kept this one open without inserts.View attachment 5160766

Good Grief! These pics of mine are always gigantic. Anyway I think you get the point.... :lol:
Thank you for posting. I think this is a great option. I will look into them.
 
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Had to share here! My GMOP magic earrings are here and I am in love! The most perfect shade of grey! I also picked up the matching GMOP magic pendant! We love our matching sets don’t we? :hbeat:
Off to ban island I go till spring next year but with a huge grin on my face :biggrin:View attachment 5159946
It’s all sooo stunning sweetie!!!
 
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Hi! It is exactly as @glamourbag says. You order the tray, and then any inserts you want, and then you pick your lid.

My suggestion on how to go about planning your soon-to-be awesome trays!...
- First, think about what pieces you want to store to asses how deep you want the tray. They come in 1.5", 2", and 4" deep. Think also if you want to store them inside a drawer as the thickness of the drawer will dictate your max depth.
- Next, think about the height of your tallest piece. If you have a big cuff bracelet, a 1.5" depth may be too shallow for the lid to close. I have a Tiffany Bone Cuff which is 2.1" at its tallest which I use a 2" tray. When I put the lid on with an insert, it closes, but there is a tiny tiny tiny gap and the lid wobbles. Well, that annoyed me, so I took out the insert and it closes perfect.
- Finally, stare at the inserts and see if you want any. You can use the tray as-is, like @glamourbag which gives you the most flexibility. Or, you can order inserts.

I posted some pictures of a tray (it's my Tiffany Elsa Peretti silver stuff... which I really like her designs... they are so bold, yet the lines are so clean, soft and fluid).

The tray is the 2" depth tray.
- The first photo is how it is normally stored. There is an insert on the right as you can see, and the insert height is slightly lower than the tray height... it works great.
- The second photo is the insert taken out so you can see what it looks like blank. The inserts are now at the bottom of the photo. You can see I do not use the left insert. This is because my Bone Cuff (upper right cuff bracelet) is too tall once I put the insert in, hence I had to redesign my layout! :nuts: :annoyed:
- The third photo is with the insert back in, and a visual so you can see if I had used both inserts.

I would also think about how you prefer to organize your bling and what type of bling person you are. Are you more a ring person? A bracelet person? A long necklace person? From my photos, you can see I'm more a big jewelry piece person, so tiny little sections in an insert or jewelry box don't work for my pieces. I also prefer to group sets together versus the style of jewelry. As in... I group my turquoise pieces together, my black pieces together, vs. grouping all earrings together. Hence, for me, I like medium size cubby holes to store "sets". I hope that made sense. This is also true of my jewelry box which holds several pieces of a set in the same cubby hole. I hope that made sense. It's all preference of course. The more versatile option is to not use inserts of course as @glamourbag did.

Warning: For me, I find those necklace inserts useless. They look great in photos, but I find them very skinny, mostly good for chains. If you have a substantial necklace or a big pendant on the chain, it looks kind of goofy and gets crowded, to the point the lid may not lay flat over your tray. This is also true of jewelry boxes when you see a lot of "necklace/bracelet" sections. They look beautiful, but not very usable to me. Hence for my necklaces, I like to just put them in an open area. Like pearl strands... they are chunky and take up so much space, so I like big cubby holes to swirl my pearls in them.

Sorry for the long post.. I hope it helps. Take your time, don't rush... it can be a lot of fun planning and buying jewelry boxes. Jewelry is like a hobby... always something new and fun! :biggrin:

CORRECTION: I made an error... Thinking now... I measured my Bone Cuff, and it was 1.9", so it should have just fit. I remember thinking, wow... it fits, but barely, by a tiny fraction. However, I did not factor in the loss of height from the insert, so when I used the insert, the cuff sat higher and the lid had a tiny gap. Just FYI to also factor in the insert if your piece is on the edge of being too tall.

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thank you for the photos and detailed explanation. I feel like jewelry boxes come up short on space for some pieces while having more space for items I don’t have. I have enough space for rings in my current jewelry box. I need more space for my necklaces. I have a few 20 motifs and pearl strands and I want to store them with the bracelets. I also have a ton of earrings. I like the idea of clear lids so you can easily see what’s inside. I will take your advice and organize my pieces first and determine the best fit. Thank you again. You are well organized!
 
IMO very different. im sure others who own separate pieces will give you a better idea. But I’ll look for a photo of my gmop six motif which has some onyx in it. Onyx top right motif. Clearest pic of GMOP middle left
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@eternallove4bag has a much better pic of GMOP here (her pic more clearly demonstrates how GMOP has enormous depth and almost glows with this inner light, whereas onyx is rich, dense and almost smooth lacquered.
see her post #19355 when you scroll down to the middle of the page
Thanks a lot for your help 880!
The grey mop is gorgeous and I can see that it is different from onyx, and depending on lighting it changes as well.
I would love the possibility to combine my onyx bracelet with the magic pendant in one necklace, so I am researching the best option.
It seems the grey mop magic comes in rose gold so I think it will clash when combine with the yg onyx.. dont know.
Need to try again some pieces...
Thanks again
 
Apologies For not seeing this sooner! I was busy on the thread entitled boyfriend won’t give me an engagement ring :sad:


I‘m not sure if this was the exact one, but it’s similar I think — mini jewelry baggies


and OT, but if you lovely ladies would like to share your wisdom here (OP is a sweet young woman who pays more than her share of expenses; is being asked to move states; away from job; family; her house; and BF refuses, although financially well off, to buy her a nice ring (he’s been married before, is proud to be cheap, and is kind of gas lighting) Though he professes not to care about material things, he would like to take her nice designer furniture out of her current house (which she is keeping) so he can get rid of his ikea stuff.

That sounds like trouble . . .
 
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I have an ivory one, also basic an neutral :lol: but a little brighter than black.

Well, I have the boring black! :lol: It's for all my platinum and diamond jewelry. I plan to get another in a color for other pieces like VCA. The black just reminds me of Chanel purses (which I think are beautiful but I do not own because I prefer jewelry at that pricepoint!).

Here she is on my breakfast room table!

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Hello everyone, how are you guys? I have missed this forum so so much!
I have purposely stayed away from the VCA forum! :(
I banned myself from here and all luxury for one year! Pandemic hit us hard.
I have a Wishlist and am in the process of deciding what I want to splurge on.

I hope everyone is safe and doing well. I have been doing a lil lurking and have not seen some older posters here.
 
Hello everyone, how are you guys? I have missed this forum so so much!
I have purposely stayed away from the VCA forum! :sad:
I banned myself from here and all luxury for one year! Pandemic hit us hard.
I have a Wishlist and am in the process of deciding what I want to splurge on.

I hope everyone is safe and doing well. I have been doing a lil lurking and have not seen some older posters here.
Nice to “see” you here :hugs:
I hope things have improved for you.
Can’t wait too see what you get!
 
Hi lovely people!I am doing my research on whether to opt for VCA all gold hammered allhambra or the Cartier JUC, does any of you have a preference. If I prefer durability what would you reckon!
by looks I love VCA but can’t decide on durability, chain strength and losing shape etc are criteria I am considering ..
Hi-I had the Cartier JUC, which I wore for years. I had to keep it on all the time, if for no other reason than the fact the clasp was very, very stiff and I couldn't open and close it without help--much like the Love bracelet. However, it was durable and stunning.
Regarding the Alhambra-for years now, I have the all gold hammered alhambra necklace-it shows no signs of wear. Likewise, I bought the sweet Alhambra YG bracelet and repurposed it to wear as an anklet. I never take it off. I shower in it, swim in it, etc. and even that chain which is more fragile than what you'd find in the vintage alhambra bracelet or necklace has held up beautifully even with continuous use. Bottom line, try both. Try the JUC, check out the clasp, see if it will work for you and then try the Alhambra. The ease of use may be the deciding factor.
 
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