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DS2006 said:
You certainly can try to choose a piece with no fluorescence if you wish. I think parcels of melee diamonds are not separated by fluorescence and that is why they are mixed in. In tiny diamonds there is likely not cost difference. There is a big cost difference in a 3 ct D VVS diamond with and without fluorescence, though. In any event, you need a UV penlight to take with you, not a loupe. Something inexpensive like this is just fine.


Fluorescence is a totally natural phenomenon (and actually is very beautiful) in natural mined diamonds. If you are talking about low quality diamonds having high pressure-high temperature treatment to whiten them or change color, that has nothing to do with the diamonds VCA uses. They definitely use very high quality natural, untreated diamonds. There is nothing negative in terms of value about them having some naturally fluorescent stones mixed in a pave piece.
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Your reply has been very helpful for me. Thank you so much again for your help.

Yes now I come to think about it. It really doesn't make so much a difference in the pricing for the pave pieces with the mixture of fluorescent and non-fluorescent diamonds. Silly me :giggle:

Now I just need to think about which to choose first, Socrate studs or Lotus small earrings. I have the Frivole YG mini for daily wear and Vintage TE Alhambra earrings. I love them a lot. Now I just need some sparkles.

Decision, decision, decision.
 
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Dear DS2006,

Your reply has been very helpful for me. Thank you so much again for your help.

Yes now I come to think about it. It really doesn't make so much a difference in the pricing for the pave pieces with the mixture of fluorescent and non-fluorescent diamonds. Silly me :giggle:

Now I just need to think about which to choose first, Socrate studs or Lotus small earrings. I have the Frivole YG mini for daily wear and Vintage TE Alhambra earrings. I love them a lot. Now I just need some sparkles.

Decision, decision, decision.
 
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MyDogTink said:
Hi everyone. Hope you are well and can provide your opinion. I have the 6 motif magic necklace in WG. There is a gray MOP motif near the clasp. It really seems like a waste to me. I was thinking of having a local jeweler remove it and repurpose it into a pendant. I think I understand the ramifications for resale purposes and future service by VCA. I'm on the fence. Has anyone done something similar or would you? Thanks.
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replying to my original question to see if anyone has thoughts on this. Thanks!
 
#18,247
MyDogTink said:
replying to my original question to see if anyone has thoughts on this. Thanks!
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I would not alter a VCA piece by removing a motif. Lengthening or shortening a chain (by VCA) is all I would personally do. You may someday need that necklace rhodium plated or a motif replaced, and I would really only want VCA to touch it.
 
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MyDogTink said:
replying to my original question to see if anyone has thoughts on this. Thanks!
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No way. It will be two Frankenstein necklaces and totally not authentic VCA. The beauty of a fine piece of jewelry is the art. It is not just what you see, but it is also what you do not see which includes the back of a necklace, the underside of a ring, etc. The whole piece is art.
 
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Hi everyone!

I am looking to add this vintage alhambra bracelet to my collection as an everyday piece.

As the motifs are textured, has anyone experience dirt getting trapped or any dullness happening because it might be hard to clean etc?

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amywong1 said:
Hi everyone!

I am looking to add this vintage alhambra bracelet to my collection as an everyday piece.

As the motifs are textured, has anyone experience dirt getting trapped or any dullness happening because it might be hard to clean etc?

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No, it’s not a problem at all. The all-metal Alhambra pieces are the easiest to maintain and clean.
 
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DS2006 said:
I would not alter a VCA piece by removing a motif. Lengthening or shortening a chain (by VCA) is all I would personally do. You may someday need that necklace rhodium plated or a motif replaced, and I would really only want VCA to touch it.
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BigAkoya said:
No way. It will be two Frankenstein necklaces and totally not authentic VCA. The beauty of a fine piece of jewelry is the art. It is not just what you see, but it is also what you do not see which includes the back of a necklace, the underside of a ring, etc. The whole piece is art.
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Thank you both. I thought I had considered the ramifications (selling, service, etc.) but I didn't think of needing to service for the rhodium plating which will most likely be needed with VCA's WG. And I will love it as is, like a piece of art. I ordered the two motif gray MOP earrings from the pre-approved list. That's why I was thinking of turning that motif into a pendant. I hope I like the earrings. Thanks again.
 
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