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A pendant sounds beautiful. Especially with a diamond.
Please share details about the twenty motif... Was the green bright or dark? Was it striped? I can't wait to see one!

The 20-motif necklace is a very nice green with clear strips. It's kinda shiny and not dark at all. I'm not usually a green person and I didn't expect it to like it so much when I tried it on. My mom also says it looks stunning on me.

But bad news is that the SA who told me that she could special order a single pendant with diamond for me didn't call me back with exact price quote as she promised (their computer system was down when I was there so she couldn't get me the exact price). So I called back and another SA who answered the call said he doesn't think that they're taking any special orders for the piece i want. So frustrating!!! I almost decided that I'm getting the 5-clover bracelet and one single motif after my visit and now they're telling me differently.
 
Thanks for the photos... I'd like the vintage with diamond! Well, if you recall my story, the piece was broken the minute I brought it back to the hotel. I don't know if it was an isolated incident or if it is indeed more fragile.

I actually love the vintage with diamond ring the most as well, but I have an onyx ring with diamond, and it's such a hassle to wash hands with that ring on.
 
The 20-motif necklace is a very nice green with clear strips. It's kinda shiny and not dark at all. I'm not usually a green person and I didn't expect it to like it so much when I tried it on. My mom also says it looks stunning on me.

But bad news is that the SA who told me that she could special order a single pendant with diamond for me didn't call me back with exact price quote as she promised (their computer system was down when I was there so she couldn't get me the exact price). So I called back and another SA who answered the call said he doesn't think that they're taking any special orders for the piece i want. So frustrating!!! I almost decided that I'm getting the 5-clover bracelet and one single motif after my visit and now they're telling me differently.

Sounds beautiful!
 
The 20-motif necklace is a very nice green with clear strips. It's kinda shiny and not dark at all. I'm not usually a green person and I didn't expect it to like it so much when I tried it on. My mom also says it looks stunning on me.

But bad news is that the SA who told me that she could special order a single pendant with diamond for me didn't call me back with exact price quote as she promised (their computer system was down when I was there so she couldn't get me the exact price). So I called back and another SA who answered the call said he doesn't think that they're taking any special orders for the piece i want. So frustrating!!! I almost decided that I'm getting the 5-clover bracelet and one single motif after my visit and now they're telling me differently.
Maybe leave a message for that SA and when she calls back try to order it. Another SA that emailed me said they cannot special order the malachite in the vintge size right now either. She mentioned the ring but I see what you mean about washing your hands. Can't wait to see your reveals!
 
I don't think that carnelian is hard to find now.
As far as color, my SA told me that the red (as opposed to the orange) is highly sought after....especially around Chinese New Year.
Mine are red and I love the color but another lovely TPF member is looking for two matching orange. Personal preference.
 
I have been debating about the malachite 20 motif.

While it will be very striking and stunning, I am very concerned that it will be too fragile for my life style. I am having my Neimans SA look into the dos and don'ts with the stone. My concern is what if something spills on it--red wine, for instance. I am going to want to wash the necklace off. Will that take off the polish?!!! So I will let you know what they say. I am also concerned about malachite being 3.5 on the Mohs scale. I would not layer the necklace as I do my other VCA pieces.

There's a part of me that says there are other VCA pieces that I should get first.
 
I have been debating about the malachite 20 motif.

While it will be very striking and stunning, I am very concerned that it will be too fragile for my life style. I am having my Neimans SA look into the dos and don'ts with the stone. My concern is what if something spills on it--red wine, for instance. I am going to want to wash the necklace off. Will that take off the polish?!!! So I will let you know what they say. I am also concerned about malachite being 3.5 on the Mohs scale. I would not layer the necklace as I do my other VCA pieces.

There's a part of me that says there are other VCA pieces that I should get first.

The color of the malachite is beautiful, hence why I want it so badly. I'm hoping the single motif necklace will be easier to care for and not get wet, etc. but am still worrying about this piece.
 
Found this article about malachite which I find informative and interesting. A beautiful stone!

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Interesting Facts About Malachite
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Malachite Chemical Properties

Malachite is a popular stone which has dark and light green banded areas, and this patterns give the stone its unique ornamental look unlike that of any other gemstone. Malachite is a carbonate mineral normaly known as "copper carbonate" with the formula CuCO3.Cu(OH)2. It ranges between 3.5 – 4 on the Mohs scale of hardness. Its specific gravity is 3.74 – 3.95 (average 3.80), the refractive index range is 1.65 – 1.90. Although malachite is sensitive and not very hard, if handled with care it can be very durable. This vivid green gem gets its color from the copper content in its chemical formula. Crystals of malachite are rare, they belong to the monoclinic system of symmetry. They forms commonly in kidney-shaped (botroydal) or radiating masses.

Malachite Stone


Malachite Stone
History of Malachite

The Egyptians have been using malachite for amulets and other jewelry since 3000 AD. Often found in massive or botryoidal form, this beautiful green crystal has been used since ancient times in inlay work and in carvings of churches and cathedrals as it is found in huge boulders. It was also used as a pigment for paint during the 15th century in Egyptian tomb paintings and much later in European art. The Victorians were also great admirers of opaque jewelry stones, and malachite was chosen to be one of their favorites, sometimes choosing it to set in gold.

Malachite derives its name from the Greek word ‘mallow’, which means a green herb. The stone is also known by its trade name the peacock stone. Malachite can be found in USSR, Zaire, Germany, France, Australia, Chile, Arizona and New Mexico/USA. Although malachite is widely distributed but they seldom occur in large quantities. Since malachite mineral is in abundant supply, you will hardly find synthetic materials in the market. There is evidence that Malachite was mined as early as 4000 B C on the Sinai Peninsula.

Malachite Uses and Treatments

Malachite is soft and somewhat brittle, it is sensitive to both acids and heat and requires gentle care, no ultrasonic or steam cleaning should be done. Use in bracelets, rings or other jewelry that gets rough or/and constant wear is not advisable. Use in brooches, earrings, pendants, tie pins is fine. Lower quality malachite may be stabilized with plastic resins or given a wax polishing on its surface. Due to its softness, malachite is easy to carve and shape, but unlike many other soft minerals, it generally takes a good polish.

Malachite is cut into cabochons or beads when fashioned into jewellery, as it is unsuitable for faceting. This mineral is not only used for ornamental stuffs or a gemstone, but it is also used in ground form as a cosmetic (eye shadow). The results may have been beautiful, but unfortunately they were also hazardous to your health as the coper content of the dust released from this stone makes it toxic to breathe. It is also used for carving statues, emblems, specimens, showpieces etc.


In metaphysical terms malachite is considered a stone of balance and transformation, assisting in ones spiritual journey. Malachite stimulates ones insight and intuition whilst helping in recognizing and clearing past negative experiences and influences. Early civilisations wore amulets of malachite to ward off danger and illness. It is worn to detect impending danger, and assumed to break into pieces when danger is near. It is also believed to help unlock the meaning of dreams. Malachite promotes inner peace, prosperity, harmony, love and hope. It provides protection, security and success in business. It is the guardian stone of travelers. It works for improvement of mind and heart. It is also used during pregnancy to protect the mother and child from ill health.

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Owners of carnelian, do u find that it matches easily with any outfits? Thanks

I only have a sweet bracelet, but I love that little pop of red. If I look at in the light, the carnelian is more a red-brown, but against my skin, it looks red-red. I think it sets off an outfit nicely. I often layer it with my 5motif onyx.
 
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