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Butterfly clips . . . I understand these four are currently available in the US. The first two are on white gold, the second two on yellow gold. The pictures don't capture the quiet beauty and elegance of these pieces.
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I thought the peacock and fireworks were beautifully rendered. The fireworks is very delicate and has a beautiful irridescence--it glitters! The other two--and especially the one with the bamboo less so. I'm hoping they carry these forward.
I might just be spoiled by Nakaya's maki-e quality.
【 Search results 】| NAKAYA FOUNTAIN PEN - Japanese handmade fountain pens
中屋万年筆の「 Search results 」のご紹介です。Nakaya Fountain Pens are handmade fountain pens created by a craftsman who has worked as a fountain pen artisan at Platinum Pen's manufacturing factory for over 40 years, with extensive experience in fountain pen making.
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It looks like these use an entirely different technique and materials.
The lacquer on the VCA brooches is applied to a mother-of-pearl ground. And the lacquer is applied in layers, with other materials to give a three-dimensional effect. It's assumed they're not going to be handled, unlike a fountain pen. It looks like these have one layer of color followed by many layers of clear lacquer to protect them from wear.
The VCA has more of a hand-made artisan style, whereas the lacquer on these pens is so precise I would never imagine it's hand-applied.
Thank you for sharing--the pens are very beautiful!
The lacquer on the VCA brooches is applied to a mother-of-pearl ground. And the lacquer is applied in layers, with other materials to give a three-dimensional effect. It's assumed they're not going to be handled, unlike a fountain pen. It looks like these have one layer of color followed by many layers of clear lacquer to protect them from wear.
The VCA has more of a hand-made artisan style, whereas the lacquer on these pens is so precise I would never imagine it's hand-applied.
Thank you for sharing--the pens are very beautiful!
It’s the same type of technique whereby you use gold or silver powders and layer them over and over again to give texture and relief. You can apply the powders to all sorts of material including woods, turtle shell, ivory, etc… Nakaya is basically a brand started by semi-retired experts in their field who wish to keep on working on smaller projects which is why their technique is so crisp.
For those interested in the techniques used (I have attached this) since it explains some of the various techniques used on the VCA brooches. (As you might have noticed the rabbit on the butterfly one is made by inserting small strips of MOP known as “raden”.)
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This is heresy coming from me, but if I had your pieces, I would get the butterfly BTF ring and matching earrings. I would skip Frivole.
I love love love Frivole, and it's my favorite collection.
However, since you are still deciding between the two, I would say you don't love love love Frivole, and you love both equally.
That said, since you already have the Lotus, I would skip Frivole.
Here is why...
I wear my Lotus set and Frivole set interchangeably. I rotate wearing my jewelry every day, and I would say these two sets are very similar. Yes, the Lotus ring is bolder, but at the end of the day, to me, I honestly do not differentiate from the two. Each is still a flower ring.
For your collection, the butterfly is a completely differently look. Dissecting your rings down to its core design, if you purchased the butterfly, you will have a bow, a flower, and a butterfly. Great variety. If you purchased Frivole, you will have a bow, a flower, and another flower. Pretty, but not really distinct, especially if you plan to only get three VCA rings. If you plan to get two more, of course, get both.
On the butterfly...
I really think the unmatched earrings are super cool! I am not an earring person, and rings are an afterthought for me to match a set. I usually get a ring or necklace that I love, and I get the earrings to match. In this case, I can see myself getting the earrings because I love them and then the matching ring secondary to make a set. That's only because I just "like" the ring, but I don't love it, and given the choice between Frivole or Butterfly, hands down I would choose Frivole. You are still debating though, so you love them equally.
Pink or yellow...
I know rings look different on everyone, but I have googled a lot of photos on different people. My two cents...
I think the yellow pops more as it seems to be an intense canary yellow with a slight drop of orange. I think the pink is more feminine and prettier, but I rarely see it pop in the photos; therefore, to me, it's more of a subtle pretty. Of course, when you try them on, you will for sure know.
I like jewelry that pops, and I can visualize both rings on me, and if I were to get a butterfly set, I think I would go with yellow sapphire. If you don't need pop and want a more feminine look, the plus in the pink sapphire earrings is they would go great with your Noeud ring. The metal in the pink sapphire is RG, so it would match your Noeud.
That said, you already have the YG Frivole to wear with Noeud, so full circle...
I'd go with a yellow sapphire set.
Did that help? Are you converted to getting a butterfly?
Joking aside, both are beautiful, and you can't go wrong.
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Thank you. This is very helpful. I am going to pay more attention to these jumbo butterflies. My SA told me about the fireworks butterfly, but he said it was very dark unless you are under a bright light, so it's not one of the best pieces to show off the artwork. I asked about the rabbits (I love rabbits!), but he said that clip was sold out.
I hope VCA comes out with new ones this year. Your post has made me appreciate the art work that goes into them.
I recently received butterfly earrings (WG pave + yellow sapphire set) and RG pave frivole earrings from DH as valentine’s gift. What kind of necklace would you wear with them? Will VA onyx or the RG GMOP pendant work for right now? I don’t have too many pieces to choose from - still in the starting stage to plan for a well curated collection. Thanks!
And my new lotus, which I temporarily
wear with Chanel sous Le Signe Du lion necklace. Do you think these 2 go with each other?
wear with Chanel sous Le Signe Du lion necklace. Do you think these 2 go with each other?
Lucky you! The earrings look gorgeous. If I get a pair of the butterflies I plan to were with diamond/sapphire tennis necklaces.
Before I got the small, I wore the mini for a couple of years non-stopping and really loved it. I still do, but after I got the small, I feel I like the more “presence” better. Now I just save the mini for my daughter! lol