Turning your LVs into art - Yes or No?
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"the bags"--again, are these authentic LV? She doesn't even mention the brand name on the website. If they're not but rather are recognizable stand-ins, then presumably LV collectors wouldn't be her clientele. It reminds me of similar arty things done on "Birkins" of unknown provenance.
Please...she's an internationally acclaimed artist who shows her work in prestigious galleries in wealthier areas. Yeah, they are authentic. Jeez
Why is this not a legit question? It would matter to at least the theoretical market for this, of LV collectors. The artist doesn't even refer to Louis Vuitton the brand.
I think that what everyone is saying, maybe I’m wrong, is that this is different from my sending my 2005 speedy to New Vintage Handbags to get a custom design which is totally different. I wouldn't use my bag as a “canvas art piece” thatbcant be used. Again I may be totally off base but I don’t want people to start arguing about this.
Maybe you would if you liked the artist. In this case, there appears to be a lot of hate for an artist nobody is this thread seems to know. Opinions are fine, that is why I asked but the hostility is weird.
Please do not feel attacked. I replied to your point blank question of ’yes or no’ with a short to the point answer. This is a public forum so lots of opinions around. This ‘art’ is not something I am interested in but thank you for contributing to a lively discussion.
Actually I don’t know the artist, not sure why you are so defensive. I don’t think my comment was hostile. I was try to avoid this very issue which is why I commented at all. I mean , for real who GAF about this with all that’s going on in the world. If you feel attacked, don’t know what to tell you.
Agree. Like if Banksy does something on a bench people aren’t going to be like, “Well you can buy a mouse mat with a Banksy print on, art people aren’t going to be interested in this new Banksy-bench collection.”
This is an original work by the artist, just on a different (heh) canvas.I like but don’t love this specific artist, and overall I think I prefer bags to be bags and art to be traditional paintings, ceramics, sculpture, etc. But if I was very wealthy and an artist I liked did this *and* I enjoyed the way the two worked together, sure. Presumably if I had that much cash I could get one to use and one to display (the black Alma with the colourful figures on would be fun to use.)
(And for people questioning the authenticity, the series is called ‘Bespoke.’ So my guess is bag-owning art people approached her to customise the bags for them. It’s not a collection, collaboration or campaign.)
Personally I don't feel attacked at all. On the other hand, I don't know why you would think it's about you in any way. Some posters on this thread express themselves in an unsophisticated manner which is not conducive to a constructive conversation. If you feel this relates to you, I don't know what to tell you.
Agree. Like if Banksy does something on a bench people aren’t going to be like, “Well you can buy a mouse mat with a Banksy print on, art people aren’t going to be interested in this new Banksy-bench collection.”
I like but don’t love this specific artist, and overall I think I prefer bags to be bags and art to be traditional paintings, ceramics, sculpture, etc. But if I was very wealthy and an artist I liked did this *and* I enjoyed the way the two worked together, sure. Presumably if I had that much cash I could get one to use and one to display (the black Alma with the colourful figures on would be fun to use.)
(And for people questioning the authenticity, the series is called ‘Bespoke.’ So my guess is bag-owning art people approached her to customise the bags for them. It’s not a collection, collaboration or campaign.)
Thank you for your considered opinion. I do like the artist and I like LV but am unsure if I would merge the two. I was interested in other people's opinions - whether pro or con but it seems to have descended into an attack on the artist and her integrity - even going so far as to accuse her of using fakes. Some of the posters are strangely triggered by this particular topic, so I'll just let them hate amongst themselves.
The answer is extremely simple: the individual would be setting themselves up for possible copyright and trademark infringement.
If anyone were to ever modify an item and say “authentic” or “genuine” LV, it can cause confusion as to whether or not the item is an official LV release/collaboration. That confusion can then give LV the ammunition to sue the artist/modifier for damages. Same logic applies to other luxury branded items.
If Duchamp can scribble on a print of the Mona Lisa and have it considered “art,” then the artist in question can paint on LV and have it considered as “art” too.
Traditionally, non-utilitarian items are considered art, so with the artist saying you can’t use the bags, she is forcing it to enter that realm. I think good art shouldn’t be forced -because at the end of the day, it’s up to the buyer to choose what to do with the item. If you have to dictate to someone how to treat/use their purchase, then either stick to your ideas of “art,” or expand your idea of what can be considered art.
I personally have no problems with people creating artful luxury items, through means of modification. LV is my favorite brand, and I have a collection, so as far as I’m concerned, I’m confident with my ability to discern a real from a fake.
LV artisans work only on trunks, and can only cover up to 30% of the entire surface area… which is nothing, if you ask me. Many of the pieces are also dictated by clients, and not all clients make aesthetically or artistically good decisions. Not all LV artisans are good in every possible subject matter either. I’ve seen artisans nail graffiti-type compositions/style, and then completely flop on realism (usually in portraiture, animal or human). There are 3rd party individuals out there who paint on LV with much better sensitivities and skills than many LV artisan painters.
It doesn’t matter to me if the painter is officially affiliated with LV or not. If it looks like bad art, I won’t care for it. As for what this particular artist did to the bags, I don’t like it. It’s too commercial, but that’s what selling these days.
Traditionally, non-utilitarian items are considered art, so with the artist saying you can’t use the bags, she is forcing it to enter that realm. I think good art shouldn’t be forced -because at the end of the day, it’s up to the buyer to choose what to do with the item. If you have to dictate to someone how to treat/use their purchase, then either stick to your ideas of “art,” or expand your idea of what can be considered art.
I personally have no problems with people creating artful luxury items, through means of modification. LV is my favorite brand, and I have a collection, so as far as I’m concerned, I’m confident with my ability to discern a real from a fake.
LV artisans work only on trunks, and can only cover up to 30% of the entire surface area… which is nothing, if you ask me. Many of the pieces are also dictated by clients, and not all clients make aesthetically or artistically good decisions. Not all LV artisans are good in every possible subject matter either. I’ve seen artisans nail graffiti-type compositions/style, and then completely flop on realism (usually in portraiture, animal or human). There are 3rd party individuals out there who paint on LV with much better sensitivities and skills than many LV artisan painters.
It doesn’t matter to me if the painter is officially affiliated with LV or not. If it looks like bad art, I won’t care for it. As for what this particular artist did to the bags, I don’t like it. It’s too commercial, but that’s what selling these days.