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This is my story which i felt compelled to share with all since we are all lovers of Hermes and especially so after reading Georgiegirl's post. I am not sure if this would be the right place to post this. Please pardon me and direct me to the right "place" if the moderators feel that my post should not be here.....

It is a summarised version on my recent experience on the appalling standard of service with Hermes.

We have been a long standing client of both Hermes Hk n FSH. We do not stay in Hk but am frequently there for short holidays and have built a relationship w HK instead of my home country.

To cut the story very short, a series of very unpleasant events happened in Hermes Hk store. At each series of events, we were constantly ignored, no one wanted to respond to us and each response came only after constant reminders! All these started end Jan 2015.

1. My husband's shoes that was sent to Paris for inspection came back in a worse state than before even though no repairs were needed. The shoes were crinkled and crashed. No one in Hermes HK bothered to check on the shoes when it came back from Paris. The note to call us and other documents meant for Hermes HK was still in the box. Obviously no one had bothered to open and check the content.

2. We were lied to by the supervisor who claims that she is not familiar with the system (after being with Hermes HK for at least 2 yrs?) to check on the status of my bag repair that was to be sent to Paris and neither was she able to access the system to check on bags availability even though she was the person-in-charge for the HK Peninsular store since the start of the year.

3. Had the worse experience in trying to contact and communicating with the xxx , Area Manger of Hermes HK. Apparently now she controls the allocation of Birkin and Kelly and it was after much very unpleasant conversation with her that she finally revealed that 1 of my outstanding SO has actually arrived!

We sent in our complains to the after-sales manager in Paris who at that point in time was trying to resolve the shoe and bag repair issue and had informed her that we will be writing a complaint email about our experience in Hermes HK to Mr Axel Dumas.

A few days later, we received a call from xxx, Managing Director of Hermes HK and Macau. We were questioned by her, who apparently checked on the validity our email with the after-sales manager and lied to us that she did not do so. Not only did she not apologise for the actions of her staff in HK, she insulted my husband over the phone! She asked him if the complain was a personal attack on her?!!!! And that if he wants an apology, she will say "sorry” now if that is what he wants! That much for sincerity! Is this how the Managing Director of Hermes HK and Macau should behave? Should we as client feel threatened for making a complain?

We tried contacting Paris senior management and informing them about the terrible experience in HK and with xxx. We were assured by the PA of Mr Axel Dumas that we would get an acknowledgment from her if we re-send her our complaint email about the series of terribly horrifying experience with Hermes Hk.

Even the acknowledgement reply from her took awhile and only after a chaser mail did she send us an acknowledgement reply!

Not once did any of the staff involved apologised for the series of events that has happened. No one is prompt in getting back to us or maybe they just cannot be bothered.

We were in Paris last week and brought it up to the after-sales manager and FSH manger who sat down n listened to our story. The FSH manger sympathised and informed that she will try and get us a reply but assuming management decides not to answer, there's nothing more she can do. And of course, till to-date, there has been NO response from the senior management in Paris.

I have no idea what Hermes is becoming in terms of customer service if after a series of email to Hermes ( including to Mr Axel Dumas) and a face-to-face complain in Paris and no one bothers still! What kind of exemplary standards is the senior management setting if the Managing Director of Hermes HK and Macau can call a client and insults the client, view it as a personal vendetta against her for complaining about Hermes HK?!!! And to make matters worse, what message is Hermes Paris sending by ignoring such complains? Is Hermes Paris condoning such actions? Does Hermes now care only about their bottom line? Customer service is not important as there will always be a new client around the corner who will replace us?

Here i quote the quote from Mr Axel Duma during an interview published on Sep 2014 about one particular work philosophy he always carry with him. "Our industry can often focus so much on people and their various opinions. We have to provide joy and pleasure to the clients. [That's] the most important for us, and to maintain authenticity. We are in a world where everything is overmarketed; everybody is trying to send a message. We are here to create a better product for our clients. It's ok to fail but not ok to provide an average experience.”
http://www.scmp.com/magazines/style...-says-true-luxury-does-not-always-have-depend

What happened to that philosophy?
 
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I can understand your frustration, but I'm not sure if you should be calling out actual people's names? This may hurt their reputation and while you probably don't care, I do think it's not fair.

Unfortunately not every company has stellar customer service and large global orgs are generally bureaucratic. It doesn't excuse behaviour but may be a reason.

As you can imagine, the H customer service email must be bombarded daily with all sorts of mail, and it's clear that they are selective with who they reply to and on certain subjects.

Since you were in touch with the PA, why don't you reach out to that person again? Are you looking for an apology or a new pair of shoes since the repairs came back damaged?
 
This is my story which i felt compelled to share with all since we are all lovers of Hermes and especially so after reading Georgiegirl's post. I am not sure if this would be the right place to post this. Please pardon me and direct me to the right "place" if the moderators feel that my post should not be here.....

It is a summarised version on my recent experience on the appalling standard of service with Hermes.

We have been a long standing client of both Hermes Hk n FSH. We do not stay in Hk but am frequently there for short holidays and have built a relationship w HK instead of my home country.

To cut the story very short, a series of very unpleasant events happened in Hermes Hk store. At each series of events, we were constantly ignored, no one wanted to respond to us and each response came only after constant reminders! All these started end Jan 2015.

1. My husband's shoes that was sent to Paris for inspection came back in a worse state than before even though no repairs were needed. The shoes were crinkled and crashed. No one in Hermes HK bothered to check on the shoes when it came back from Paris. The note to call us and other documents meant for Hermes HK was still in the box. Obviously no one had bothered to open and check the content.

2. We were lied to by the supervisor who claims that she is not familiar with the system (after being with Hermes HK for at least 2 yrs?) to check on the status of my bag repair that was to be sent to Paris and neither was she able to access the system to check on bags availability even though she was the person-in-charge for the HK Peninsular store since the start of the year.

3. Had the worse experience in trying to contact and communicating with the xxx , Area Manger of Hermes HK. Apparently now she controls the allocation of Birkin and Kelly and it was after much very unpleasant conversation with her that she finally revealed that 1 of my outstanding SO has actually arrived!

We sent in our complains to the after-sales manager in Paris who at that point in time was trying to resolve the shoe and bag repair issue and had informed her that we will be writing a complaint email about our experience in Hermes HK to Mr Axel Dumas.

A few days later, we received a call from xxx, Managing Director of Hermes HK and Macau. We were questioned by her, who apparently checked on the validity our email with the after-sales manager and lied to us that she did not do so. Not only did she not apologise for the actions of her staff in HK, she insulted my husband over the phone! She asked him if the complain was a personal attack on her?!!!! And that if he wants an apology, she will say "sorry” now if that is what he wants! That much for sincerity! Is this how the Managing Director of Hermes HK and Macau should behave? Should we as client feel threatened for making a complain?

We tried contacting Paris senior management and informing them about the terrible experience in HK and with xxx. We were assured by the PA of Mr Axel Dumas that we would get an acknowledgment from her if we re-send her our complaint email about the series of terribly horrifying experience with Hermes Hk.

Even the acknowledgement reply from her took awhile and only after a chaser mail did she send us an acknowledgement reply!

Not once did any of the staff involved apologised for the series of events that has happened. No one is prompt in getting back to us or maybe they just cannot be bothered.

We were in Paris last week and brought it up to the after-sales manager and FSH manger who sat down n listened to our story. The FSH manger sympathised and informed that she will try and get us a reply but assuming management decides not to answer, there's nothing more she can do. And of course, till to-date, there has been NO response from the senior management in Paris.

I have no idea what Hermes is becoming in terms of customer service if after a series of email to Hermes ( including to Mr Axel Dumas) and a face-to-face complain in Paris and no one bothers still! What kind of exemplary standards is the senior management setting if the Managing Director of Hermes HK and Macau can call a client and insults the client, view it as a personal vendetta against her for complaining about Hermes HK?!!! And to make matters worse, what message is Hermes Paris sending by ignoring such complains? Is Hermes Paris condoning such actions? Does Hermes now care only about their bottom line? Customer service is not important as there will always be a new client around the corner who will replace us?

Here i quote the quote from Mr Axel Duma during an interview published on Sep 2014 about one particular work philosophy he always carry with him. "Our industry can often focus so much on people and their various opinions. We have to provide joy and pleasure to the clients. [That's] the most important for us, and to maintain authenticity. We are in a world where everything is overmarketed; everybody is trying to send a message. We are here to create a better product for our clients. It's ok to fail but not ok to provide an average experience.”
http://www.scmp.com/magazines/style...-says-true-luxury-does-not-always-have-depend

What happened to that philosophy?

Did you get your SO?
 
This is my story which i felt compelled to share with all since we are all lovers of Hermes and especially so after reading Georgiegirl's post. I am not sure if this would be the right place to post this. Please pardon me and direct me to the right "place" if the moderators feel that my post should not be here.....

It is a summarised version on my recent experience on the appalling standard of service with Hermes.

We have been a long standing client of both Hermes Hk n FSH. We do not stay in Hk but am frequently there for short holidays and have built a relationship w HK instead of my home country.

To cut the story very short, a series of very unpleasant events happened in Hermes Hk store. At each series of events, we were constantly ignored, no one wanted to respond to us and each response came only after constant reminders! All these started end Jan 2015.

1. My husband's shoes that was sent to Paris for inspection came back in a worse state than before even though no repairs were needed. The shoes were crinkled and crashed. No one in Hermes HK bothered to check on the shoes when it came back from Paris. The note to call us and other documents meant for Hermes HK was still in the box. Obviously no one had bothered to open and check the content.

2. We were lied to by the supervisor who claims that she is not familiar with the system (after being with Hermes HK for at least 2 yrs?) to check on the status of my bag repair that was to be sent to Paris and neither was she able to access the system to check on bags availability even though she was the person-in-charge for the HK Peninsular store since the start of the year.

3. Had the worse experience in trying to contact and communicating with the xxx , Area Manger of Hermes HK. Apparently now she controls the allocation of Birkin and Kelly and it was after much very unpleasant conversation with her that she finally revealed that 1 of my outstanding SO has actually arrived!

We sent in our complains to the after-sales manager in Paris who at that point in time was trying to resolve the shoe and bag repair issue and had informed her that we will be writing a complaint email about our experience in Hermes HK to Mr Axel Dumas.

A few days later, we received a call from xxx, Managing Director of Hermes HK and Macau. We were questioned by her, who apparently checked on the validity our email with the after-sales manager and lied to us that she did not do so. Not only did she not apologise for the actions of her staff in HK, she insulted my husband over the phone! She asked him if the complain was a personal attack on her?!!!! And that if he wants an apology, she will say "sorry” now if that is what he wants! That much for sincerity! Is this how the Managing Director of Hermes HK and Macau should behave? Should we as client feel threatened for making a complain?

We tried contacting Paris senior management and informing them about the terrible experience in HK and with xxx. We were assured by the PA of Mr Axel Dumas that we would get an acknowledgment from her if we re-send her our complaint email about the series of terribly horrifying experience with Hermes Hk.

Even the acknowledgement reply from her took awhile and only after a chaser mail did she send us an acknowledgement reply!

Not once did any of the staff involved apologised for the series of events that has happened. No one is prompt in getting back to us or maybe they just cannot be bothered.

We were in Paris last week and brought it up to the after-sales manager and FSH manger who sat down n listened to our story. The FSH manger sympathised and informed that she will try and get us a reply but assuming management decides not to answer, there's nothing more she can do. And of course, till to-date, there has been NO response from the senior management in Paris.

I have no idea what Hermes is becoming in terms of customer service if after a series of email to Hermes ( including to Mr Axel Dumas) and a face-to-face complain in Paris and no one bothers still! What kind of exemplary standards is the senior management setting if the Managing Director of Hermes HK and Macau can call a client and insults the client, view it as a personal vendetta against her for complaining about Hermes HK?!!! And to make matters worse, what message is Hermes Paris sending by ignoring such complains? Is Hermes Paris condoning such actions? Does Hermes now care only about their bottom line? Customer service is not important as there will always be a new client around the corner who will replace us?

Here i quote the quote from Mr Axel Duma during an interview published on Sep 2014 about one particular work philosophy he always carry with him. "Our industry can often focus so much on people and their various opinions. We have to provide joy and pleasure to the clients. [That's] the most important for us, and to maintain authenticity. We are in a world where everything is overmarketed; everybody is trying to send a message. We are here to create a better product for our clients. It's ok to fail but not ok to provide an average experience.”
http://www.scmp.com/magazines/style...-says-true-luxury-does-not-always-have-depend

What happened to that philosophy?


I'm so sorry to read your bad experience at H HK. I hope they will make it up to you and hope you will have a much much better experience with H [emoji120][emoji120][emoji120].
 
I can understand your frustration, but I'm not sure if you should be calling out actual people's names? This may hurt their reputation and while you probably don't care, I do think it's not fair.

Unfortunately not every company has stellar customer service and large global orgs are generally bureaucratic. It doesn't excuse behaviour but may be a reason.

As you can imagine, the H customer service email must be bombarded daily with all sorts of mail, and it's clear that they are selective with who they reply to and on certain subjects.

Since you were in touch with the PA, why don't you reach out to that person again? Are you looking for an apology or a new pair of shoes since the repairs came back damaged?

Hi Maseml, sorry about the putting in the actual names. Immediately wanted to edit it after seeing you post but it has already been done. Thanks!!! It is not meant to hurt the particular person's reputation.

I can imagine that how much emails the company has to handle from customers and that is probably why FSH manager mentioned that if H does not reply, there is nothing much she could do if the management still does not reply after her attempts.

The shoes were resolved in Paris. The after-sales manager in Paris was nothing but sweet.

It is the way that management is handling the situation. No response at all from senior management?....
 
Hi Maseml, sorry about the putting in the actual names. Immediately wanted to edit it after seeing you post but it has already been done. Thanks!!! It is not meant to hurt the particular person's reputation.

I can imagine that how much emails the company has to handle from customers and that is probably why FSH manager mentioned that if H does not reply, there is nothing much she could do if the management still does not reply after her attempts.

The shoes were resolved in Paris. The after-sales manager in Paris was nothing but sweet.

It is the way that management is handling the situation. No response at all from senior management?....

Hi Dieselho, no need to apologize!! I do get your frustration and I agree that it stinks that senior mgmt is not responsive, thereby fueling the presumption that they don't care. It's entirely possible that they don't and unfortunately , it may mean they lose customers but sounds like they may not care? It's not a good business model but there doesn't seem to be anything compelling enough for them to change.

And to be truthful, it's very unlikely that senior mgmt would reply to anyone themselves; it's typically always ghostwritten or done by a customer service team.

I do hope you hear from them to your satisfaction. Maybe tweet them? Social media seems to get people's attentions?
 
Hi Maseml, the sad part about this series of events is exactly like what you said.

The truth is that they are willing to take the risk to lose a client and that we are unlikely to get a response from senior management themselves.....

It is just really disappointing how everything turned out, especially after years of support for the brand....and how easily this whole issue could be resolved.

My husband has given up hope on hearing from them and we feel that there is no need to keep pushing them for a reply after our mutliple attempts.

If we are not valued as a client, then there is no point being a client anymore.
 
Hi Maseml, the sad part about this series of events is exactly like what you said.

The truth is that they are willing to take the risk to lose a client and that we are unlikely to get a response from senior management themselves.....

It is just really disappointing how everything turned out, especially after years of support for the brand....and how easily this whole issue could be resolved.

My husband has given up hope on hearing from them and we feel that there is no need to keep pushing them for a reply after our mutliple attempts.

If we are not valued as a client, then there is no point being a client anymore.

So does that mean you'll refuse your SO?
 
Hi Maseml, the sad part about this series of events is exactly like what you said.

The truth is that they are willing to take the risk to lose a client and that we are unlikely to get a response from senior management themselves.....

It is just really disappointing how everything turned out, especially after years of support for the brand....and how easily this whole issue could be resolved.

My husband has given up hope on hearing from them and we feel that there is no need to keep pushing them for a reply after our mutliple attempts.

If we are not valued as a client, then there is no point being a client anymore.

Regardless of whether you continue to shop at H or not in the future and irrespective of whether you will collect your SO, I am sorry to hear about your experience with H. As this thread has shown, the customer service experience at H has been inconsistent at best and downright awful for some. Here's to hoping you get a resolution that you find satisfactory.
 
I think continued shopping with Hermes (or any company), when someone has expressed such a high level of dissatisfaction, is actually quite important. By continuing to buy, you are sending them a message that it doesn't matter how you are treated. Your strongest "voice" is expressed by refusing to spend any additional money with them.
 
Just wondering what happened when Oprah Winfrey made a big deal in regards to her treatment at Hermes. I believe they refused to let her in minutes before closing. Don't remember much as it was many many years ago. What was the outcome of that. If Oprah can't get a sorry than who can.
Forgive me if this sounded silly.
 
I think continued shopping with Hermes (or any company), when someone has expressed such a high level of dissatisfaction, is actually quite important. By continuing to buy, you are sending them a message that it doesn't matter how you are treated. Your strongest "voice" is expressed by refusing to spend any additional money with them.

That may be so, but the OP is expressing a high level of dissatisfaction now that may get resolved which may make her feel better about shopping at Hermes down the road. And maybe it gets resolved by the appearance of her SO!!! Maybe not. I'm just more nuanced, I guess, and I prefer to leave doors open (even if slightly ajar) rather than shut them close. :-)
 
That may be so, but the OP is expressing a high level of dissatisfaction now that may get resolved which may make her feel better about shopping at Hermes down the road. And maybe it gets resolved by the appearance of her SO!!! Maybe not. I'm just more nuanced, I guess, and I prefer to leave doors open (even if slightly ajar) rather than shut them close. :-)

She said her SO is waiting for her.

I think an apology is one thing, if that is satisfactory. But given the high level of unhappiness expressed, why continue shopping with a brand, apology or not?
 
She said her SO is waiting for her.

I think an apology is one thing, if that is satisfactory. But given the high level of unhappiness expressed, why continue shopping with a brand, apology or not?

Because in life it is better to be flexible and open-minded - again, that is just me. I'm not the OP so I can't comment on what she will do. I can say from my own personal experience that I have had terrible service from H and stopped shopping there for years. One day I happened to walk back in to H, happened to meet a new SA, and the rest is history. Being open to returning to Hermes has brought me a lot of Hermes happiness! :-)
 
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