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Did the show feature him being Rill Sad about the trade?
During the lockout he went into his closet and kissed his Laker jersey and said " I miss you!" Emo Lamar is such a hoot. I almost felt as though the trade was to spite the Lakers. Apparently, when they first wanted to trade him to New Orleans he didn't know about it. When that fell through, he went to the front office and demanded to be traded. It was like how dare you trade me without my knowledge, I'll show you, and sent him to the current World Champs. And we all see how that turned out.
 
I don't understand why he did no training for 5 months. I can see taking a few weeks lso, what is the deal with Jamie? In last night's show, when they were looking for a place to live in Dallas, he wanted a bedroom for Jamie. That was a big red flag for me. Why would someone who has been married only 2 yrs want a male friend to live with them. I understand having him move to Dallas, but to live with him. Is Lamar on the down low?


That's what the skript kalled for.
 
Lamar can still make a come back next year. if he plays well, this year can be a distant memory.
IMO Khloe needs to be schooled in what and when to tweet. She needs to step off the reality tv wife and focus on being a good basketball wife during his rough patches.

She won't learn. Now she's tweeting in song form.


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Such a weird feeling... awkward when you can't even express your own emotions. LOL

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"They both agreed... They both knew what was best... Now we have to figure out the rest" love this song

And of course in case we were wondering the obligatory my marriage is the best thing ever tweets (+ she chooses who's tweets to answer). .

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My marriage is wonderful thanks for asking love being in love "@gloriaferman: please RT if you and Lamar are doing good in your marriage."

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Isn't he the best? "@ChristinaLePree: Why can't more guys be like Lamar Odom? He treats @KhloeKardashian like a princess"

She did say

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Never! I loved Dallas and will miss it! Xo "@abbyshosid: Don't forget us in Dallas! We loved having you and Lam Lam! @KhloeKardashian"

But i doubt that. :laugh:

And every outlet is running with that tweet saying khloe thinks Lamar deserved better in DAL + she can miss me with that BS because that's exactly what she meant. Jazzy said she tweeted it right after the game. She's not slick.
 
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LOLOL I am just reading the Lakers forum and everybody is like bring him back to LA, the LA fans will gladly take LO back :)

Will management though?

Mark Cuban loves attention, loves the media. I don't believe any decisions were about his extracurriculars. I'd guess it was a combo of poor performance, personal drama and disrespect to the organization by not being dependable/showing up/practicing.

This. The only way i think the extra stuff affected the organization was when the fans got wind of the fact his dad wasn't really all that sick + it opened up all the spec into wtf was really going on.

Maybe because this show put him under the microscope so that ppl could see that he's an unstable nut? No one outside of the Bball world really knew Lamar Odom until he became a Kardashian. And, yeah, posters here have said that he was this way before Khloe but, let's face it, this family and the fame associated with them has given him more attention than I suppose he bargained for. You don't think that filming a scripted reality show when he should've been focusing on his work, health and well-being should be a factor in all this mess?

Yes.

Good point.

the show wasnt the CATALYST of this mess, but it certainly exacerbated a bad situation, all arguments regarding that should be about the degree to which it did so...

True.

I don't understand why he did no training for 5 months. I can see taking a few weeks lso, what is the deal with Jamie? In last night's show, when they were looking for a place to live in Dallas, he wanted a bedroom for Jamie. That was a big red flag for me. Why would someone who has been married only 2 yrs want a male friend to live with them. I understand having him move to Dallas, but to live with him. Is Lamar on the down low?

You + me both

Lamar is a dumbazz.

And this is sums it all up basically. :laugh:
 
Will management though?

Who knows... thing is, they want 6th man of the year Lamar back... not Emo-Drama Llamar 2012... they think that his form will magically re-appear once he puts his Lakers jersey back on, but I certainly doubt that...
Also, Kobe would not be having any of Lamar's moping. Go hard or ship his *** out...

Btw, MWP said Lamar should return as soon as this season... as a ballboy... :laugh:
 
Who knows... thing is, they want 6th man of the year Lamar back... not Emo-Drama Llamar 2012... they think that his form will magically re-appear once he puts his Lakers jersey back on, but I certainly doubt that...
Also, Kobe would not be having any of Lamar's moping. Go hard or ship his *** out...

Btw, MWP said Lamar should return as soon as this season... as a ballboy... :laugh:

:laugh: I think he meant that in a positive way as in i miss him but nothing sounds quite the way MWP intends it to when it leaves his mouth.
 
NY Post/Page six (grain of salt). Thought it was interesting because it pertains to the discussion people are having about the show's role.
Drama may make for good reality television, but Lamar Odom’s emotions were too much for the Dallas Mavericks’ top brass.

The Mavericks yesterday bounced Khloe Kardashian husband Odom — who arrived from the Los Angeles Lakers in December — after four months of poor performance, family drama and off-court antics that left the team’s management fed up. He’s been put on the inactive list until after the playoffs, after which the Mavs can trade him.

“They grew tired of his BS and kicked him to the curb,” an NBA source told Page Six. “[The team] didn’t need someone pouting like a little kid.”


Sources say Queens-born Odom never felt at home in Dallas and grew depressed during his time there. Family woes also plagued Odom, who took a leave of absence in February after his father reportedly fell ill. This came months after he was involved in a New York car accident where his driver hit a motorcyclist, who then struck and killed a 15-year-old pedestrian.


Odom played dismally in the aftermath. He averaged a career-low 6.6 points and 4.1 rebounds per game with the Mavs, compared with 14.4 points and 8.7 rebounds during his last season with the Lakers.

Sources believe the pressure of also playing in front of reality cameras for “Khloe and Lamar” pushed Odom into a slump. “When he wasn’t playing well, it meant he looked bad,” said a source. “And when you have a show about your life, when you are off-court, you have to deal with the producers asking all those questions. He had a horrible summer, but . . . he was more concerned about the cameras and how he looked.”

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/mavs_get_real_bounce_odom_qkNWxz0GXcgZP1MmtSvhzL#ixzz1rdWqtriA

You know that is a good point. When you're going through something having the producers ask you 100 questions about it, have to talk it to death over + over, re enact it for the show, do "confessionals" etc makes it easier to dwell in your misery so to speak. I imagine it would be much easier to shut it out + just play if you didn't have to do the above.

When Lamar was with LAL, basketball was barely a SL on the show + i'm sure it didn't bother him to discuss how great things were going in his career over and over if he had to.
 
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:laugh: I think he meant that in a positive way as in i miss him but nothing sounds quite the way MWP intends it to when it leaves his mouth.

I think he meant it in a negative funny way. If you read the whole article, he basically states that the mavs had to do what is best for their organization and really Lamar should do something other than basket ball for a while.


I dont think the Lakers would sign Lamar for next year nor he would want to go back to the Lakers. Thats just my opinion. I wrote the thing about the forum, because his fans in LA still believe in him.

Lamar can very well be back to his form last season for the 2012-2013 season but he would have to make some changes in his life. He will get ONE shot to prove himself in the NBA again and if it doesnt work, he will either have to retire or go overseas.
 
I think he meant it in a negative funny way. If you read the whole article, he basically states that the mavs had to do what is best for their organization and really Lamar should do something other than basket ball for a while.


I dont think the Lakers would sign Lamar for next year nor he would want to go back to the Lakers. Thats just my opinion. I wrote the thing about the forum, because his fans in LA still believe in him.

Lamar can very well be back to his form last season for the 2012-2013 season but he would have to make some changes in his life. He will get ONE shot to prove himself in the NBA again and if it doesnt work, he will either have to retire or go overseas.

Is there a link to the article? I tried to find on Lakersground.net but all i got is this gem :laugh:

Come be Lakers ball boy rest of season and player next season, be a scout, be a Boy Scout ... Climb the tallest mountain in the world, get a candy-related merit badge with Skittles, do something never done before, have fun."
Metta World Peace said Lamar Odom should rejoin the Lakers as a ball boy or scout for the rest of the season since he can't as a player"

Artest + Lamar are BFF and have been even before the NBA IIRC. I doubt he'd say anything about him in a negative manner.
 
I havent been watching the show but I do read recaps and couldnt find much on the internet but here is a poster take on the last episode, from Twop forums: (I hope it is ok to post it here)

Let's reason: So Lamar is going through a major career and identity crisis which has him depressed and leaves him with just enough emotional and physical energy to sleep, eat and go back to work until he gets over this tough transition, and what does his loving supportive wife do? Prepare a private picnic for him where he can let his guard down and get stress relieving support from his wife? No, folks. She invites an E! camera team of no fewer than ten people to take over the apartment and force him to shoot a picnic scene for their TV show. There is a huge difference between a picnic and a picnic scene. So when we judge Lamar's frustration with the show and Khloe's so called good wifey-ness, we must remember this.

Then when he tells her that he is too tired to perform the scene; that he only has energy for one job at the moment, what does the loving supportive wife do? Does she understand and call her mom and Ryan Seacrest to rework the episodes because this is a very real situation and Lamar can't do the show scenes right now? No, folks. She cries, to garner sympathy for herself, so the partner who needs support has to be the one soothing her.
I wish people would see this for what it is.

Remember that that little picnic in the house would have been done with cameras present. Let's be completely real. If she really was being a totally supportive wife and knew Lamar, she would have recognised what we all do, that he hates going through all this on camera and is only doing it to fulfil his contractual obligations and so she wouldn't have been trying to get him to have a picnic on camera after another tough day at his new job. Remember the cameras are there for all this. It's not really a romantic picnic, it's just more work for Lamar. We the viewers may not always be conscious of the cameras, butLamar is. So when he rejected the candle light picnic, what he was really rejecting was yet another scene for the reality show in which he would have been required to perform. What we don't see or think about is Lamar entering his home after another tough day at his real job and when he turns the doorknob, he can't unwind with his wife, he has to face a hotel room full of cameras, lights and a production team of people. Think about it.

And Khloe knows he doesnt want to go through all this on camera so I judge her the same way I judge Kim and the rest. She put her show above Lamar's mental health at that time and Lamar must have noticed. I would have rated her more as a wife if I had seen few scenes with Lamar and a boring TV show because that would have signalled to me that she was acting in his interest and not the Kardashian/E! team. But instead she has done what Kim and Kris do, choose her production over her marriage. She just isn't being a ***** on camera like Kim. But I look beyond what I'm shown at the bigger picture, which includes the cameras.

So when I hear that Lamar is frustrated with the show, that's what I think about.
Khloe has used this marriage to win the public relations war she has going on in her head against Kim. No one can tell me otherwise. I see right through this girl. And the public has helped her in this by judging her behaviour only in comparison to Kim. That's why all she does is tell us how much Lamar is her priority and how much she loves him, so we can see how not-like-Kim she is. But when she needs to actually show that love in non-sexual ways, she draws a blank and gets snippy with Lamar. Showing love to Lamar in Dallas would have been allowing him to go home to sleep after practice instead of looking at houses so E! can get their scenes, and forcing him to talk so E! can get their scenes and reassure her all the damn time for being the great wife that she is so invested in the public thinking she is.
Poor Lam-Lam. On top of losing his career, he is now a villain in his marriage to poor widdle Khloe who is making this all about how wonderful she is.

I agree with this poster assessment, even though I dont watch the show. I know Lamar is a grown man but he has issues and his issues stem from his unstable and tragic ridden childhood. I said in the very beginning, very early in the season, I dont see how Lamar would be able to focus on adjustment when he has to film after practice and Khloe who is a producer should have his back and turn the attention away from him, to give him at least a chance of settling his emotions privately and play good ball. But, thats would not been good for her image as the 'good wifey' compare to her beautiful sister who is a 'bad wife'. It is much better to show her husband an emotional wreck and her the perfect wife trying to comfort him.

I believe Kim (if she was truly in love with the person, say Reggie) would have acted in a sensible way and turn off the cameras or just focus on herself showing, friends and allow him to adjust privately. People who thinks that Khloe is so much better than Kim, sorry to say need to look closer.
 
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I havent been watching the show but I do read recaps and couldnt find much on the internet but here is a poster take on the last episode, from Twop forums: (I hope it is ok to post it here)



I agree with this poster assessment, even though I dont watch the show. I know Lamar is a grown man but he has issues and his issues stem from his unstable and tragic ridden childhood. I said in the very beginning, very early in the season, I dont see how Lamar would be able to focus on adjustment when he has to film after practice and Khloe who is a producer should have his back and turn the attention away from him, to give him at least a chance of settling his emotions privately and play good ball. But, thats would not been good for her image as the 'good wifey' compare to her beautiful sister who is a 'bad wife'. It is much better to show her husband an emotional wreck and her the perfect wife trying to comfort him.

I believe Kim (if she was truly in love with the person, say Reggie) would have acted in a sensible way and turn off the cameras or just focus on herself showing, friends and allow him to adjust privately. People who thinks that Khloe is so much better than Kim, sorry to say need to look closer.

I do think Kim was great with the way she handled Reggie + kept her mouth shut (for the most part) about his career. His cameos on the show were limited + never really about football. She was low key at his games, sat in the box, stayed off camera, etc. Until that camera interview at the super bowl where she got over excited + even thought the interviewers were pressing to talk to her she should've IMO limited her answers or just let Reggie have the moment, she was awesome.

That being said, Reggie didn't want to be on the show. Lamar does. He wanted to the fame + to be a reality star. That is not Khloe's fault. What i do fault her for is continuing to tweet about him/his team, his issues with the Mavs + the way she seems to be constantly up under him on the show (per recaps + the clip i saw of her not STFU about looking for an apartment when Lamar look like he was exhausted/about to cry) And if she sees the show/attention negatively affecting him then she needs to pull back for his sake, but Lamar is a grown man. He keeps doing the show. He can say no. And i'm not even convinced the show is the real problem here. It's the fact that Lamar is mentally weak.

With Khloe + Lamar, I agree with you that Khloe does act like she needs to prove her marriage is perfect constantly so she doesn't back off in any aspect even getting heavily involved in his career but Lamar allows it. If this was her K/R, i do think she would pull back if she was it was hurting him, but i also believe that Reggie would put his foot down as well so it's two fold.

ETA: I just read the post you linked. It is an interesting assessment. I remember reading in the recap that after Lamar just said he was not in the mood to talk about real estate (?), she called Kris crying + then Lamar had to put his feelings aside to make her feel better + rolled my eyes. People say Kim needs attention from a guy, but Khloe is on like a whole other level. She has made Lamar her life.
 
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I havent been watching the show but I do read recaps and couldnt find much on the internet but here is a poster take on the last episode, from Twop forums: (I hope it is ok to post it here)



I agree with this poster assessment, even though I dont watch the show. I know Lamar is a grown man but he has issues and his issues stem from his unstable and tragic ridden childhood. I said in the very beginning, very early in the season, I dont see how Lamar would be able to focus on adjustment when he has to film after practice and Khloe who is a producer should have his back and turn the attention away from him, to give him at least a chance of settling his emotions privately and play good ball. But, thats would not been good for her image as the 'good wifey' compare to her beautiful sister who is a 'bad wife'. It is much better to show her husband an emotional wreck and her the perfect wife trying to comfort him.

I believe Kim (if she was truly in love with the person, say Reggie) would have acted in a sensible way and turn off the cameras or just focus on herself showing, friends and allow him to adjust privately. People who thinks that Khloe is so much better than Kim, sorry to say need to look closer.


Edit: I love twop. This poster hit the nail on the head.

Makes me think she talked him into playing this season (instead of taking the year off) to ensure they had something worth while to tape. Lamar taking the year off isn't interesting enough to tape.

I stopped watching the season after mailika suggested khloe get lipo. Sorry, but when mailka's boob job and Jamie's questing for an acting career are part of the story line, why bother?
 
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Kim and khloe are the same, neither is any better than the other. Kim may not have filmed her time with Reggie, but she did leak info and ensure there were PLENTY of photos ops with him. Both these women like the limelight, use their men, leak info to press, "pour their hearts and souls" into their designs, etc, etc.
 
Kim and khloe are the same, neither is any better than the other. Kim may not have filmed her time with Reggie, but she did leak info and ensure there were PLENTY of photos ops with him. Both these women like the limelight, use their men, leak info to press, "pour their hearts and souls" into their designs, etc, etc.

Oh i know they are both attention whores, but Kim kept Reggie's career out of it. I don't even remember her tweeting all that much about the Saints at all. That's the main difference + what mostly irks me about Khloe. That + calling photoshoots to tell them to give Lamar a snack so he doesn't get cranky. :laugh: She treats him like he's her child. But again he allows it. :shrugs:
 
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