The JADE thread!

[Silver Mom]

Hello Everyone, I've been following this thread for the past 2 weeks.
My mother in law bought be this black jade bangle.
It's a solid opaque black piece that is cold to the touch and has a pretty high chime to it compared to other materials I have tested it with (glass, metal, other jades probably lower grade), hair test was a pass and the hair did not burn when wrapped around the bangle, when I shine a light to it, there is no translucency and no green hint to it like other jade pieces that I have seen. I wish I took pictures of it but it's currently with a gemologist right now to get identified here in Calgary, Alberta.
The gemologist I went to go see has never seen black jade before today and examined the piece and could not see through it and all the tools he had - he could not see to identify it. He said that it is for sure a stone or some sort (I asked him if it was onyx or any of those other black opaque stones- he said no it's not onyx and that he would be able to identify those stones) and that he would have to consult with a few other gemologists for their opinion- and that he was just surprised that this bangle has stumped him for the first time in his career. He didn't seem very knowledgable about black jade as he stated that he doesn't ever run into them because no body wants them. When we got into the topic of nephrite and jadeite, he stated that jade is technically different than nephrite and that there is no such thing as black nephrite (which is not what I got from the numerous articles I have read online but hey I'm no gemologist)....

I know a few of you jade lovers have black jade in your prized collection. What are the characteristics of your own black jade?

I'm so puzzled... I'm crossing my fingers that my bangle is truly black jade and hope my mother in law did not get ripped off. She did get it from a reputable seller but I hear that sometimes even reputable sellers can try to pull a quick one of you or get tricked themselves into buying false jade.

And here is my black and green Jadeite bangle.

 

[Silver Mom]

Omg Silver Mom, those are beautiful!!!
Does black jade always glow green when held to a light??
Because mine doesn't. The Gemologist kept saying he can't see through my bangle and can't tell anything about the piece because it's just jet black.

Some do have green when put to the light but the Edwards Black which this one is does not. It is as black as black can be. And you cannot see through this bangle. Even if you shine the brightest light no green will show not even on the edges. That is the nature of this stone. By the way my Jeweler sent the Edwards Black to be certified for me and it came back as black nephrite. So there is such thing as black jade. It is just that not every one is aware of it.

 

[2boys_jademommy]

Does anyone have any pieces from Allen that are Turkish Lavender Jade? I've been thinking about getting a bangle from him in Turkish Lavender but I'm unsure about it for some reason even though I love all things purple.

Hi Piosavsfan - why are you hesitant? I don't know much about the Turkish Lavender Jade he has but from what I can see it looks to be less translucent but quite intense in colour. Definitely a different look from jadeite.

 

[2boys_jademommy]

Hello Everyone, I've been following this thread for the past 2 weeks.
My mother in law bought be this black jade bangle.
It's a solid opaque black piece that is cold to the touch and has a pretty high chime to it compared to other materials I have tested it with (glass, metal, other jades probably lower grade), hair test was a pass and the hair did not burn when wrapped around the bangle, when I shine a light to it, there is no translucency and no green hint to it like other jade pieces that I have seen. I wish I took pictures of it but it's currently with a gemologist right now to get identified here in Calgary, Alberta.
The gemologist I went to go see has never seen black jade before today and examined the piece and could not see through it and all the tools he had - he could not see to identify it. He said that it is for sure a stone or some sort (I asked him if it was onyx or any of those other black opaque stones- he said no it's not onyx and that he would be able to identify those stones) and that he would have to consult with a few other gemologists for their opinion- and that he was just surprised that this bangle has stumped him for the first time in his career. He didn't seem very knowledgable about black jade as he stated that he doesn't ever run into them because no body wants them. When we got into the topic of nephrite and jadeite, he stated that jade is technically different than nephrite and that there is no such thing as black nephrite (which is not what I got from the numerous articles I have read online but hey I'm no gemologist)....

I know a few of you jade lovers have black jade in your prized collection. What are the characteristics of your own black jade?

I'm so puzzled... I'm crossing my fingers that my bangle is truly black jade and hope my mother in law did not get ripped off. She did get it from a reputable seller but I hear that sometimes even reputable sellers can try to pull a quick one of you or get tricked themselves into buying false jade.

Welcome XTineN! I have a black nephrite and it is cool to the touch although slightly less so than jadeite. Mine looks black most of the time but the deep green will come through under sunlight. It has a buttery sheen to it and looks "soft" even though it is very hard.
Hopefully yours will turn out to be Jade - will be interesting to see if it is jadeite or nephrite. I think black jadiete tend not to be as black and it has translucent bits.
Nice to see a fellow Canadian on the board I'm in Toronto, Ontario 😊

 

[2boys_jademommy]

And here is my black and green Jadeite bangle.

I love this bangle Silvermom and of course you know I like your black Edwards bangle 😉
The looks between this and the nephrite is so different....if you had to choose which do you prefer and why. Actually this question is for any of the lucky Jadies here who have both black jadeite and black nephrite - if you can only have one black bangle would you choose your jadeite or nephrite? Would love to hear your answers 😊

 

[piosavsfan]

Hi Piosavsfan - why are you hesitant? I don't know much about the Turkish Lavender Jade he has but from what I can see it looks to be less translucent but quite intense in colour. Definitely a different look from jadeite.

It would be a custom order and I think I'm just afraid that I'm not going to like it once I have it or something. I know he does great work, but I'm used to buying something that has already been created and so I know what it looks like and if I want it. But since this would be a project, the final product would be a bit of a mystery. Does that make sense?

 

[Silver Mom]

I love this bangle Silvermom and of course you know I like your black Edwards bangle ��
The looks between this and the nephrite is so different....if you had to choose which do you prefer and why. Actually this question is for any of the lucky Jadies here who have both black jadeite and black nephrite - if you can only have one black bangle would you choose your jadeite or nephrite? Would love to hear your answers ��

Thank you 2 Boys. If I had to choose I would definitely choose the Edwards Nephrite. I myself am surprised that I feel that way because in the past I always thought nephrite took a second seat to jadeite. However, when I look at the nephrite piece I see that they have a much more elegant look when paired with diamonds because the color is so intense. Jadeite tends to not be so uniform in texture and color as opposed to nephrite. Don't get me wrong, I do love my jadeite pieces but I think the nephrite is so classy.

 

[2boys_jademommy]

It would be a custom order and I think I'm just afraid that I'm not going to like it once I have it or something. I know he does great work, but I'm used to buying something that has already been created and so I know what it looks like and if I want it. But since this would be a project, the final product would be a bit of a mystery. Does that make sense?

Totally makes sense. Also because the Turkish lavender has swirls of colour if I remember correctly you don't know what you'll get. Even the proportions are only what you visualize. When I got the black bangle it seemed less scary because it is a solid black. I'm looking into a Siberian white from Allan and there are variations within the stone so one never knows how it will turn out. My only suggestion is if you like the look of the stone then just be open to different looks from it. Imagine the different possibilities and see if you can love all of them
Good luck!

 

[2boys_jademommy]

Thank you 2 Boys. If I had to choose I would definitely choose the Edwards Nephrite. I myself am surprised that I feel that way because in the past I always thought nephrite took a second seat to jadeite. However, when I look at the nephrite piece I see that they have a much more elegant look when paired with diamonds because the color is so intense. Jadeite tends to not be so uniform in texture and color as opposed to nephrite. Don't get me wrong, I do love my jadeite pieces but I think the nephrite is so classy.

Thank you for answering Silvermom. It never ceases to amaze me what draws one to certain pieces.
If I had to generalize for myself I prefer black and white nephrite over black and white jadeite but I prefer green jadeite over green nephrite. I hope nobody gets offended by me saying this. 😊

 

[Silver Mom]

Thank you for answering Silvermom. It never ceases to amaze me what draws one to certain pieces.
If I had to generalize for myself I prefer black and white nephrite over black and white jadeite but I prefer green jadeite over green nephrite. I hope nobody gets offended by me saying this. 😊

Not offended at all. Everyone does have different taste. I never thought I would like green nephrite too but I really love my green nephrite set. It is a surprise to me. I always valued jadeite more.

 

[crosso]

Three more examples of black jade: a black Guatemalan jadeite with white Burmese jadeite, a mottled black carved Burmese jadeite bangle and a black mottled Burmese jadeite dragon/phoenix pi pendant

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[Silver Mom]

Thank you for answering Silvermom. It never ceases to amaze me what draws one to certain pieces.
If I had to generalize for myself I prefer black and white nephrite over black and white jadeite but I prefer green jadeite over green nephrite. I hope nobody gets offended by me saying this. ��

And here is my green jadeite. Which one do you prefer? My Jadeite or nephrite? They really have a different look.

 

[Silver Mom]

Three more examples of black jade: a black Guatemalan jadeite with white Burmese jadeite, a mottled black carved Burmese jadeite bangle and a black mottled Burmese jadeite dragon/phoenix pi pendant

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Oooooo nice Crosso! I really like the black guatemalan. Goes so well with the Burmese. Lovely set.

 

[crosso]

And here is my green jadeite. Which one do you prefer? My Jadeite or nephrite? They really have a different look.

No way could I choose between these, they are both completely stunning, but so different!

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[crosso]

Oooooo nice Crosso! I really like the black guatemalan. Goes so well with the Burmese. Lovely set.

Thank you, Silver Mom!😊

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