The JADE thread!

[AJadecent Angle]

Do you jadies get your jade certified? Is it necessary? I am very confident that the jade i am buying is 100% Type A Jadite but am wondering if I should for insurance purposes or any other reason? What i am purchasing is pretty expensive to for me so idk if it's better to err on getting the certification instead of not getting it.

Certifying jade doesn't really add any value to your jade pieces as far as I've read other than confirming that the piece you got is indeed untreated. But expensive pieces are definitely worth getting certification on since treated jades are the very thing that are trying to imitate expensive high quality jade pieces in terms of color + translucency.

 

[berniechocolate]

Do you jadies get your jade certified? Is it necessary? I am very confident that the jade i am buying is 100% Type A Jadite but am wondering if I should for insurance purposes or any other reason? What i am purchasing is pretty expensive to for me so idk if it's better to err on getting the certification instead of not getting it.

depends on how expensive it is . But I don’t really trust Chinese certs so I almost always get everything certified. I have a friend who bought a piece of jade that’s stated to be jadeite on chinese cert .

However , she brought it to Singapore gemologist to days it’s actually low grade omphacite with many impurities like amphibole . Granted , very pure omphacite is considered as a form of jadeite . But with the amphibole impurities , the Singapore gemologist says it would not be honest to certify it as jadeite at all .
For a gemstone to be classified as jadeite it must have at least a certain majority percentage of that content to be certified .

This is the stringency that Nanyang Gemologist in SG applies to their testing .

Some China labs can be very unscrupulous to certify such items even if they don’t qualify as jadeite to help sellers sell off something that can’t certify as jadeite .


After buying jade for sometime ,for many varieties , it’s not too difficult to tell grade A or not .

But for expensive varieties u already spend quite a lot on it , having a cert is not an appraisal of value, but does assure the jade buyer, what you are paying for etc ,good translucence etc
Good peace of mind for the next seller if u change your mind and intend to resell it .

For the cheaper varieties if u are sure if it’s authenticity , maybe not . And also for Nan Yang Gemology , (SG) able to get a verbal , for half the price of a printed cert . They have this flexibility because if an item don’t turn out grade A or if it’s fake , who wants to pay the full price for paying for something fake or inauthentic yes ?

so I always make sure to get a verbal at least even if it’s cheap . Just very anal about hearing it from the gemologist lol

 

[ILoveOrange]

depends on how expensive it is . But I don’t really trust Chinese certs so I almost always get everything certified. I have a friend who bought a piece of jade that’s stated to be jadeite on chinese cert .

However , she brought it to Singapore gemologist to days it’s actually low grade omphacite with many impurities like amphibole . Granted , very pure omphacite is considered as a form of jadeite . But with the amphibole impurities , the Singapore gemologist says it would not be honest to certify it as jadeite at all .
For a gemstone to be classified as jadeite it must have at least a certain majority percentage of that content to be certified .

This is the stringency that Nanyang Gemologist in SG applies to their testing .

Some China labs can be very unscrupulous to certify such items even if they don’t qualify as jadeite to help sellers sell off something that can’t certify as jadeite .


After buying jade for sometime ,for many varieties , it’s not too difficult to tell grade A or not .

But for expensive varieties u already spend quite a lot on it , having a cert is not an appraisal of value, but does assure the jade buyer, what you are paying for etc ,good translucence etc
Good peace of mind for the next seller if u change your mind and intend to resell it .

For the cheaper varieties if u are sure if it’s authenticity , maybe not . And also for Nan Yang Gemology , (SG) able to get a verbal , for half the price of a printed cert . They have this flexibility because if an item don’t turn out grade A or if it’s fake , who wants to pay the full price for paying for something fake or inauthentic yes ?

so I always make sure to get a verbal at least even if it’s cheap . Just very anal about hearing it from the gemologist lol

Certifying jade doesn't really add any value to your jade pieces as far as I've read other than confirming that the piece you got is indeed untreated. But expensive pieces are definitely worth getting certification on since treated jades are the very thing that are trying to imitate expensive high quality jade pieces in terms of color + translucency.

Thank you Bernie and AJadecent Angle. Very informative. I don't intend to resell at all, but who knows what the future will bring. You guys have given me a lot to think about.

 

[Silver Mom]

Do you jadies get your jade certified? Is it necessary? I am very confident that the jade i am buying is 100% Type A Jadite but am wondering if I should for insurance purposes or any other reason? What i am purchasing is pretty expensive to for me so idk if it's better to err on getting the certification instead of not getting it.

Like BernieChocolate I too like to certify the pieces of jade that I buy. It is difficult enough for the experts to guaranty. They have to use testing equipment to be 100% sure. Then how can we be so sure without testing. I find for peace of mind I like to have a cert with each purchase. My jeweler uses Hong Kong Jade and Stone Lab or GIA to do the certifications. For me it is well worth it because if you are going to pay for something and the seller tells you it is grade A, you should be getting what you pay for.

 

[VintageyGirl]

Do you jadies get your jade certified? Is it necessary? I am very confident that the jade i am buying is 100% Type A Jadite but am wondering if I should for insurance purposes or any other reason? What i am purchasing is pretty expensive to for me so idk if it's better to err on getting the certification instead of not getting it.

I got a couple certified when I first bought from a new seller and they were rather costly. Once it’s a trusted seller, I don’t get it certified. Like Ultimate Jadeite, Li Hong, All About Jade etc. And I got them certified before I paid for them. If unsure and it’s expensive, I would get them certified generally I would buy from trusted or recommended sellers for peace of mind!

 

[AJadecent Angle]

A new gift from my father, since he says my original name contains a chinese character being a Dragon. I don’t even think I’m worthy of such a intricate dry green carving as well.
But it certainly makes for a very very nice fidgeting piece despite the gold bail placed on top.

 

[ILoveOrange]

@VintageyGirl, I am buying from Ultimate Jadeite this time so have decided not to get it certified since I trust her and she has a lifetime guarantee on her jade.

 

[SmokieDragon]

A new gift from my father, since he says my original name contains a chinese character being a Dragon. I don’t even think I’m worthy of such a intricate dry green carving as well.
But it certainly makes for a very very nice fidgeting piece despite the gold bail placed on top.
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Such a beautiful gift! I love the green! I'm born in the year of the dragon I noticed the cert says the pendant is 69 grams! Wow, that's substantial! You would need a hefty chain

 

[SmokieDragon]

Ultimate Jadeite, Li Hong, All About Jade

Oh, all my favourite Singaporean jade vendors! I also love Yok Dee

 

[VintageyGirl]

A new gift from my father, since he says my original name contains a chinese character being a Dragon. I don’t even think I’m worthy of such a intricate dry green carving as well.
But it certainly makes for a very very nice fidgeting piece despite the gold bail placed on top.
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Wow it’s a statement piece! Beautiful dragon craving and such a vivid green! I don’t think it looks dry because of the intricate carving. You are lucky to have your dad sharing your love for jade and buying it for you!

 

[VintageyGirl]

Oh, all my favourite Singaporean jade vendors! I also love Yok Dee

Yes I trust Yokdee too!

 

[VintageyGirl]

@VintageyGirl, I am buying from Ultimate Jadeite this time so have decided not to get it certified since I trust her and she has a lifetime guarantee on her jade.

Nandar from UJ would be trustworthy I got my very first fine jade bangle from her and didn’t get that certified pls show when you get it!

 

[AJadecent Angle]

Such a beautiful gift! I love the green! I'm born in the year of the dragon I noticed the cert says the pendant is 69 grams! Wow, that's substantial! You would need a hefty chain

It sure is beautiful! Also yeah it definitely will be a hassle to wear such a hefty piece, which I don’t think my neck would enjoy that very much.

Wow it’s a statement piece! Beautiful dragon craving and such a vivid green! I don’t think it looks dry because of the intricate carving. You are lucky to have your dad sharing your love for jade and buying it for you!

I can agree with that! Although I’ve heard that jade pieces that aren’t as translucent are ones to be used as intricate carvings to make up for it, especially when the artist wants to find ways to make the colors pop. My father indeed has a soft spot for jade carvings so I have him to thank for that.

 

[xincinsin]

It sure is beautiful! Also yeah it definitely will be a hassle to wear such a hefty piece, which I don’t think my neck would enjoy that very much.

A chain might bite if the pendant is heavy. You could consider using a silk or leather cord or even special chokers bound with silk thread. My mum gave me a rather heavy pendant and it is strung on a necklace of small woven beads.

 

[ILoveOrange]

Nandar from UJ would be trustworthy I got my very first fine jade bangle from her and didn’t get that certified pls show when you get it!

I bought this bangle from her. So beautiful in the pictures. I can't wait until I see it in person. I love the peekaboo green patches.