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It was me who recommended them

Well you asked @emmababy if she was familiar with them (https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/the-jade-thread.903525/post-34131415: "Hey emma, I forget where you are from but are you familiar with Li-Hong Jadeite or Husk Singapore Jadeite?") without saying that you recommend them. @emmababy then responded by saying that she had bought accessories from them and gave the correct name of the company as husknco (https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/the-jade-thread.903525/post-34133254: "Hi yup, i bought some accessaries from Husknco before and a small black barrel from Li Hong once.").

So yes, you brought up the name, but it was based on what @emmababy wrote that I visited the site
 
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can someone here show me some of your glutinous quality jadeite collections?
I'm wondering of that kind of quality is something that can be made to beautiful cabochons as well.
Hi GarrKelvinez, I have been told that my bangle here is of glutinous quality. I could never really understand what the term means so I am going on what other people have told me. Maybe someone could explain the term to us. Hope this is helpful.fullsizeoutput_2d40.jpeg
 
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Hi GarrKelvinez, I have been told that my bangle here is of glutinous quality. I could never really understand what the term means so I am going on what other people have told me. Maybe someone could explain the term to us. Hope this is helpful.View attachment 4895815
To my understanding and a video I saw where they showed what jade terms meant (although in Chinese) a glutinous type of jade is sort of like what happens when you cook rice, and there’s rice water left over. So how I interpret this is your stunning lavender bangle is rice water dyed with alittle bit of purple to achieve that look, sure there maybe parts where the purple is more profound but other than that it’s very vibrant.
Hope it makes sense! :lol:
 
To my understanding and a video I saw where they showed what jade terms meant (although in Chinese) a glutinous type of jade is sort of like what happens when you cook rice, and there’s rice water left over. So how I interpret this is your stunning lavender bangle is rice water dyed with alittle bit of purple to achieve that look, sure there maybe parts where the purple is more profound but other than that it’s very vibrant.
Hope it makes sense! :lol:
Thank you AJadecent Angle, this sounds like a pretty good explanation. It is such a hard concept to understand. Do you know what the difference between a glutinous jade and other types are? Where was the vieo that you saw. I would love to see it.
 
Thank you AJadecent Angle, this sounds like a pretty good explanation. It is such a hard concept to understand. Do you know what the difference between a glutinous jade and other types are? Where was the vieo that you saw. I would love to see it.
Oh gee I wish I could since it was a month ago, and I've been binging unhealthily on people showcasing the jade markets in China and the borders between Myanmar and China. :P
Although I can recall the video describing the types of jade as this:
Bean/waxy type has a look and feeling of anything coarse, dry looking, orange peel feeling (Beeswax, dried beans)
Glutinous type as said, looks like rice water; you notice alittle more transparency but not quite to the point where you can see through it.
Ice type in itself seems to have it's own standards based on perhaps... 200 videos of people showcasing it. The most valuable of the icy type is "Gao Bing"/高冰 which literally translates to "High Ice" as it's near Boli/玻璃 (Glassy type) with the difference between the 2 being that High Icy jade still has some of it's structures visible (albeit barely) which causes some parts of the jade to look a little cloudy in some parts, similar to how ice cubes look.
Glass types typically being the most sought after, is sort of self explanatory :lol: If you can see through a bunch of texts hiding behind a piece of translucent jade with ease and the structure is nowhere to be seen to the naked eye, it's considered Glassy. In the video the one who made the video said it can be compared to distilled water due to how clear it is and have a similar reflective look to a Glassy jade.
Funny enough Glassy and Icy types are the types to be simulated the most, typically with clear Quartz which I'm sure someone long time ago has mentioned it to be Shui Mo Jade, with Imperial Green Jade being faked with Chalcedony and Dyed Green Quartz, and even worse, Glass (literally) :lol:
 
Wow thanks AA. Great info. If you ever remember the name of the video please let me know. I was recently told that for some reason lavender jade is usually more likely to be cloudy (have lots of snow) and not as icy as other colors. Did you ever hear that? So scary that jades can be so easily copied. That is why I always have my pieces certified when purchasing. Luckily my seller has her pieces certified by the Hong Kong Jade and Stone Lab or the GIA included in the price that I pay. I haven't been wearing my jade lately because of the virus. We don't go anywhere. LOL
Hope all is well with you and stay safe.
 
Wow thanks AA. Great info. If you ever remember the name of the video please let me know. I was recently told that for some reason lavender jade is usually more likely to be cloudy (have lots of snow) and not as icy as other colors. Did you ever hear that? So scary that jades can be so easily copied. That is why I always have my pieces certified when purchasing. Luckily my seller has her pieces certified by the Hong Kong Jade and Stone Lab or the GIA included in the price that I pay. I haven't been wearing my jade lately because of the virus. We don't go anywhere. LOL
Hope all is well with you and stay safe.
Oh my god! I found the video :lol: Here it is.
This basically tells you the jist of the types of transparency Jadeite can achieve although it's Chinese.
Also I'm sure other Jadies have said that Lavender jades are usually more cloudy compared to other colored jades due to the chemical structuring, I've even heard that sometimes GIA aren't able to tell the origins of lavender color since sometimes Manganese isn't present during their testing so they actually assume it's natural :lol:. Although a transparent lavender jade isn't unheard of that's for sure since I did give my mother a "lavender" (moreso pinkish) jade ring to my mother and that has really nice transparency!
 
Oh my god! I found the video :lol: Here it is.
This basically tells you the jist of the types of transparency Jadeite can achieve although it's Chinese.
Also I'm sure other Jadies have said that Lavender jades are usually more cloudy compared to other colored jades due to the chemical structuring, I've even heard that sometimes GIA aren't able to tell the origins of lavender color since sometimes Manganese isn't present during their testing so they actually assume it's natural :lol:. Although a transparent lavender jade isn't unheard of that's for sure since I did give my mother a "lavender" (moreso pinkish) jade ring to my mother and that has really nice transparency!
THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH! I appreciate your looking for the video. So cool. I am going to watch it now. Hugs
 
Oh my god! I found the video :lol: Here it is.
This basically tells you the jist of the types of transparency Jadeite can achieve although it's Chinese.
Also I'm sure other Jadies have said that Lavender jades are usually more cloudy compared to other colored jades due to the chemical structuring, I've even heard that sometimes GIA aren't able to tell the origins of lavender color since sometimes Manganese isn't present during their testing so they actually assume it's natural :lol:. Although a transparent lavender jade isn't unheard of that's for sure since I did give my mother a "lavender" (moreso pinkish) jade ring to my mother and that has really nice transparency!
I enjoyed the video. It was excellent because it showed the different kinds of jade. Thank you so much for sharing. If possible could you post a photo of your mom's lavender jade ring? Would love to see it.
 
Oh my god! I found the video :lol: Here it is.
This basically tells you the jist of the types of transparency Jadeite can achieve although it's Chinese.
Also I'm sure other Jadies have said that Lavender jades are usually more cloudy compared to other colored jades due to the chemical structuring, I've even heard that sometimes GIA aren't able to tell the origins of lavender color since sometimes Manganese isn't present during their testing so they actually assume it's natural :lol:. Although a transparent lavender jade isn't unheard of that's for sure since I did give my mother a "lavender" (moreso pinkish) jade ring to my mother and that has really nice transparency!
http://mandalay.china-consulate.org/chn/mbly/MDXB/FC/t215173.htm
Google translation:
Classification of jadeite:



The traditional old-fashioned jade grading is always described as dark old pits, old pits, gold wire species, new pit species, oil green species, and bean green species, but for consumers, it can be said that it is too abstract to make consumption Those who are familiar with jade can easily and thoroughly understand it. The following provides a new classification method for reference.
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一. Texture (species)



1. Glass floor: The texture is bright, clear and delicate. The most important thing is to have a "hard" feel similar to a single crystal of gemstones, with very few visible stone patterns. If there are visible impurities, it is mostly frozen stone flowers, bagasse or flaky black smoke. After this kind of texture is set, the internal reflected light is often visible, and sometimes there is a "cat's eye" phenomenon. This texture is the highest grade among all germplasms and can be said to remain unchanged for thousands of years.



2. Iceland: As the name suggests, its crystals feel like ice cubes or sugar candy, and the cleanliness is quite high. The texture is also quite detailed, but it doesn't feel as cold or hard as the glass. This texture is quite good after setting the head.



3. Transformed ground: Its texture is like the translucent shape of "jelly", but tiny stone flowers and cotton wool can be seen.



4. Winter melon: The texture is also close to translucent, and it feels like a cooked winter melon.



5. Glutinous rice: The texture should be impervious, with a delicate feeling like cooked glutinous rice, which is generally called hibiscus and this texture is close to it.



6. Inverted ground: The texture is similar to glutinous rice ground, but part of the crystals in the jade meat appear as rice residue like uncooked raw rice.



7. Bean field: It is not very transparent like beans, the transparency is only half of the surface, there are many visible cotton willow, fly wings, rice porridge residue, etc. This texture will easily get small white flowers in the future when it is exposed to strong light for a period of time , "Pride" is reduced.



8. White ground: Generally, the crystals of jade are mostly white and colorless, and white is the most common color. Most of the aforementioned new factory jade only reach this level. This texture has no transparent mood. This texture is often called "" Porcelain ground "approaching.



9. Taro ground: White is slightly grayish, the color is like taro, and the bottom is wood.



10. Grey ground: opaque, multi-fiber texture, dark like fragrant gray, with sandy character.



11. Udi: The texture is dark brown, opaque, and wood bottom.



12. Oily field: the seeds are ice and hard, and the oily luster feels floating on the surface. Generally, jadeite with a darker color is more likely to appear.



二. Color:

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1. Brilliant green: pure green, pure and dense, but without black.



2. Green: Green is slightly bluish, which is called green and bluish from a gemological point of view. It is because of its blue and green colors that it looks calm and mysterious, giving people a more "shen" feeling.



3. Emerald green: green is alive. If it is born in a glass floor, it will shake like green water. The color is brighter and lighter, which is the representative of standard green.



4. Yang green: The green is bright and sunny, with a slight yellowish color, and because of its yellow flavor, the green has a bright sense of life.



5. Light green: Green is lighter, not fresh enough.



6. Turbid green: The color is darker than light green, but slightly turbid.



7. Dark green: Although the color is thick but dark, it is not fresh, but it still loses green.



8. Black and green: Green to dark black.



9. Blue: The color is slightly bluish, slightly greenish, which is called blue-greenish in gemology.



10. Gray: The color is not blue, green or black, with gray.



11. Yellow: Most of the yellow comes from the endothelium, and the texture of the yellow is often the jade species above the winter melon land.



12. Purple: Opposite to emerald, those born in fog are emeralds, and those born in jade flesh are mostly piles (purple) divided into light purple, purple, bright purple and purple.



13. White: This color is the most common in jadeite. When it is born above the chemical land, it is colorless, and when it is born below the bean land, it appears white.



14. Emerald red: mostly from the endothelium, those born in jade flesh are mostly distributed in filaments, and some are formed into pieces. The red color in the crack is the result of the invasion of iron.



15. Black: No green, black ink.



16. Three colors: There are two colors on the white ground called "Fu Lu Shou", and those with three colors are called "Fu Lu Shou Xi".



Four color illustrations (take small seedlings as an example)
 
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http://mandalay.china-consulate.org/chn/mbly/MDXB/FC/t215173.htm
Google translation:
Classification of jadeite:



The traditional old-fashioned jade grading is always described as dark old pits, old pits, gold wire species, new pit species, oil green species, and bean green species, but for consumers, it can be said that it is too abstract to make consumption Those who are familiar with jade can easily and thoroughly understand it. The following provides a new classification method for reference.



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一. Texture (species)



1. Glass floor: The texture is bright, clear and delicate. The most important thing is to have a "hard" feel similar to a single crystal of gemstones, with very few visible stone patterns. If there are visible impurities, it is mostly frozen stone flowers, bagasse or flaky black smoke. After this kind of texture is set, the internal reflected light is often visible, and sometimes there is a "cat's eye" phenomenon. This texture is the highest grade among all germplasms and can be said to remain unchanged for thousands of years.



2. Iceland: As the name suggests, its crystals feel like ice cubes or sugar candy, and the cleanliness is quite high. The texture is also quite detailed, but it doesn't feel as cold or hard as the glass. This texture is quite good after setting the head.



3. Transformed ground: Its texture is like the translucent shape of "jelly", but tiny stone flowers and cotton wool can be seen.



4. Winter melon: The texture is also close to translucent, and it feels like a cooked winter melon.



5. Glutinous rice: The texture should be impervious, with a delicate feeling like cooked glutinous rice, which is generally called hibiscus and this texture is close to it.



6. Inverted ground: The texture is similar to glutinous rice ground, but part of the crystals in the jade meat appear as rice residue like uncooked raw rice.



7. Bean field: It is not very transparent like beans, the transparency is only half of the surface, there are many visible cotton willow, fly wings, rice porridge residue, etc. This texture will easily get small white flowers in the future when it is exposed to strong light for a period of time , "Pride" is reduced.



8. White ground: Generally, the crystals of jade are mostly white and colorless, and white is the most common color. Most of the aforementioned new factory jade only reach this level. This texture has no transparent mood. This texture is often called "" Porcelain ground "approaching.



9. Taro ground: White is slightly grayish, the color is like taro, and the bottom is wood.



10. Grey ground: opaque, multi-fiber texture, dark like fragrant gray, with sandy character.



11. Udi: The texture is dark brown, opaque, and wood bottom.



12. Oily field: the seeds are ice and hard, and the oily luster feels floating on the surface. Generally, jadeite with a darker color is more likely to appear.



二. Color:



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1. Brilliant green: pure green, pure and dense, but without black.



2. Green: Green is slightly bluish, which is called green and bluish from a gemological point of view. It is because of its blue and green colors that it looks calm and mysterious, giving people a more "shen" feeling.



3. Emerald green: green is alive. If it is born in a glass floor, it will shake like green water. The color is brighter and lighter, which is the representative of standard green.



4. Yang green: The green is bright and sunny, with a slight yellowish color, and because of its yellow flavor, the green has a bright sense of life.



5. Light green: Green is lighter, not fresh enough.



6. Turbid green: The color is darker than light green, but slightly turbid.



7. Dark green: Although the color is thick but dark, it is not fresh, but it still loses green.



8. Black and green: Green to dark black.



9. Blue: The color is slightly bluish, slightly greenish, which is called blue-greenish in gemology.



10. Gray: The color is not blue, green or black, with gray.



11. Yellow: Most of the yellow comes from the endothelium, and the texture of the yellow is often the jade species above the winter melon land.



12. Purple: Opposite to emerald, those born in fog are emeralds, and those born in jade flesh are mostly piles (purple) divided into light purple, purple, bright purple and purple.



13. White: This color is the most common in jadeite. When it is born above the chemical land, it is colorless, and when it is born below the bean land, it appears white.



14. Emerald red: mostly from the endothelium, those born in jade flesh are mostly distributed in filaments, and some are formed into pieces. The red color in the crack is the result of the invasion of iron.



15. Black: No green, black ink.



16. Three colors: There are two colors on the white ground called "Fu Lu Shou", and those with three colors are called "Fu Lu Shou Xi".



Four color illustrations (take small seedlings as an example)
Oops. Sorry about the multiple duplicate images. Using my phone to post this.
 
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