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It’s a bit hard to speculate on the price as the value of jade is determined by many factors, including color, what type of colors, translucency, size and whether the jade has anything that spoils its beauty. Flaws like stonelines, chips, unsightly spots, etc.

Actually the price also largely depends on the integrity of the seller. Here is a bangle i bought at a local Chinatown shop, but not Li Hong. It’s a little dingy shop in an old dingy building. It’s a white/very pale lavender princess that’s actually very translucent. However, it has an internal stoneline that cannot be felt with the fingernail at all. The seller sold it to me for $400 SGD. he said he halved the price bcos of the stoneline. He told me that any piece of jade that has a flaw/defect, he’ll halve the price immediately because as DaisyShadow said, a flaw is a flaw, and he said he feels he cannot in all honesty sell a piece with stonelines at a high price.

I thought it was very nice of him, so I bought the bangle from him despite the stoneline (plus, the shop looked kinda sad, lol)

And to answer your other question, unfortunately Li Hong does not ship overseas. However, when you buy at the shop, all pieces with flaws and stonelines are discounted. And they will let you know the flaws.

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Thank you for sharing the story of your bangle with me!! It’s gorgeous with the stone line. I find the price of jade a super interesting topic. The beauty of a jade piece really lies in the eyes of the beholder. And a bangle never shouts it’s price as many designer goods do. Maybe I find it so interesting for this reason [emoji848]
Sad to hear that Li Hong Jade does not ship overseas. But hey it’s an even better excuse do to do a trip to Singapore.. maybe I save a little bit first in case I get serious jade fever there [emoji16]
 
Thanks Daisy Shadow! On the fb I don’t know how much of the inventory is already sold. For this reason I was asking if someone knew if they also sell online. I don’t have something specific in mind and was just wondering what the price range for Li Hong Jade would be. What I love about Ultimate Jadeite is that every piece is listet and “flaws” are accurate described so everyone can make an informed decision. I was wondering if Li Hong Jade operates similarly [emoji848]

Hi FraBa,

LH doesn't sell online. I like honest transactions- no dressing up of flaws and genuine adjustment of prices in that respect. For me, I need to feel that I have paid a fair price for the items. What type of jade do you like?
 
In bed with the flu [emoji855] more time to browse about Jadeite and to enjoy the company of my everyday bangle [emoji38]Have to say Jade feels so good when you have some temperature. cooling my bangle really helped to regulate my overall temperature last night. View attachment 4020980

Hope you feel better soon FraBa [emoji8]
I’m glad you’re wearing your jade. It looks so pretty paired with your dainty gold bangle. I read some articles on wearing jade for your health and for the different seasons - what to wear for different health issues, climates, what to wear when you travel etc. It was fascinating. Also certain colours of jade have cooling properties and other colours are warming.
Actually the blog where I read these articles are from a woman who sells jade but because I have read many negative reviews and most importantly from what I can tell a lot of her jade is treated I won’t mention the blog for I wouldn’t want anyone to think I support this.
But if the jade you’re wearing makes you feel a little better when you’re sick then it is the right one for you:) [emoji4]
 
Hi FraBa,

LH doesn't sell online. I like honest transactions- no dressing up of flaws and genuine adjustment of prices in that respect. For me, I need to feel that I have paid a fair price for the items. What type of jade do you like?

Yes with that we’re on the same boat! I like to know what I’m getting and to know that the price is fair. My bangle for example was described “with small chips”. I was hesitant at first but loved the overall look so I bought it. Best decision ever. I can’t feel the “chips” just saw some minimal points with a loop. So it’s not really a flaw for me.
Generally I love multicoloured Jadeite. Especially Green, Blue, Lavender, White. The only thing I’m not so much into is yellow, brown, red and black jade but that’s just because I think they do not suit my skin tone/ wardrobe so much-love it on others so. What’s your favourite Colour of Jade??
 
It’s a bit hard to speculate on the price as the value of jade is determined by many factors, including color, what type of colors, translucency, size and whether the jade has anything that spoils its beauty. Flaws like stonelines, chips, unsightly spots, etc.

Actually the price also largely depends on the integrity of the seller. Here is a bangle i bought at a local Chinatown shop, but not Li Hong. It’s a little dingy shop in an old dingy building. It’s a white/very pale lavender princess that’s actually very translucent. However, it has an internal stoneline that cannot be felt with the fingernail at all. The seller sold it to me for $400 SGD. he said he halved the price bcos of the stoneline. He told me that any piece of jade that has a flaw/defect, he’ll halve the price immediately because as DaisyShadow said, a flaw is a flaw, and he said he feels he cannot in all honesty sell a piece with stonelines at a high price.

I thought it was very nice of him, so I bought the bangle from him despite the stoneline (plus, the shop looked kinda sad, lol)

And to answer your other question, unfortunately Li Hong does not ship overseas. However, when you buy at the shop, all pieces with flaws and stonelines are discounted. And they will let you know the flaws.

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I agree with you BreadnGem. Price is difficult to determine and it is inexplicably tied to how a piece makes us feel.
The story of your lovely bangle with the stone line is a perfect example of an honest seller and the right owner for the bangle. You must have felt something special about this bangle and so the “flaw” no longer matters. Of course the price should reflect this despite your love for the bangle and so it worked out great:)
 
Hope you feel better soon FraBa [emoji8]
I’m glad you’re wearing your jade. It looks so pretty paired with your dainty gold bangle. I read some articles on wearing jade for your health and for the different seasons - what to wear for different health issues, climates, what to wear when you travel etc. It was fascinating. Also certain colours of jade have cooling properties and other colours are warming.
Actually the blog where I read these articles are from a woman who sells jade but because I have read many negative reviews and most importantly from what I can tell a lot of her jade is treated I won’t mention the blog for I wouldn’t want anyone to think I support this.
But if the jade you’re wearing makes you feel a little better when you’re sick then it is the right one for you:) [emoji4]

Thanks for the compliments and good wishes 2boys_jademommy! Yes I’m feeling a lot better today [emoji4] so happy that jade helps with health as well...
I think I know who you mean. I also read her blog as it is one of the first things you see if you google “jade bangle”. I also got warned reading on the forum here just in time. It’s a shame there are no more serious people blogging about Jade in English. Nobody of you girls ever wanted to start a blog??? I’ll be the first reader. Would be amazing to have all the wonderful information from this thread in one page to browse...
 
I agree with you BreadnGem. Price is difficult to determine and it is inexplicably tied to how a piece makes us feel.
The story of your lovely bangle with the stone line is a perfect example of an honest seller and the right owner for the bangle. You must have felt something special about this bangle and so the “flaw” no longer matters. Of course the price should reflect this despite your love for the bangle and so it worked out great:)

You are absolutely right. I felt ok buying the bangle and despite the stoneline, I actually enjoy wearing it, mainly bcos I felt the seller was honest and above board. I would not have felt happy buying or wearing it if I felt he was scamming me or had quoted me an unreasonable price. It’s a pretty bangle and as it’s so translucent I actually took it to the gemologist to verify whether it is Grade A, bcos I felt the price was really good despite the stoneline! Lol
 
You are absolutely right. I felt ok buying the bangle and despite the stoneline, I actually enjoy wearing it, mainly bcos I felt the seller was honest and above board. I would not have felt happy buying or wearing it if I felt he was scamming me or had quoted me an unreasonable price. It’s a pretty bangle and as it’s so translucent I actually took it to the gemologist to verify whether it is Grade A, bcos I felt the price was really good despite the stoneline! Lol

That's one honest seller! Makes u happy buying from him. [emoji4]
 
Yeah so it’s basically all boil down to honesty .

:)

When I was in Hong Kong . Which really is like a jade haven with all type of jade shops around around.

I realized that there are many type of seller around . Some would try to sell you jade bangles for $10 for price of 3 .

Obviously , those who has some basic knowledge in Jade would be able to tell u that it’s dyed , or treated jade . Which color injected Grade B , C or even D .

Thing is , do they tell you well in advance , if you were asking . Is this treated or grade B ?

They will tell u straight . Yes grade B .

So you know well what you are getting . So if u decide to get it anyway you made an informed choice ..

You pay for what you get . You want and can accept a treated item ? Good fo you , there’s no dishonesty involved .


What’s more dangerous ?

What’s quite bad ?

Some sellers , who does sell Grade A who will try to sell their jadeite at sky high prices . Yes . They might be upfront about the flaws , defects on the bangle . But they also persistently insist , that even high prices bangles is bound to have flaws or cracks .

While what’s expensive is subjective price range for person to person.

It isn’t true that at higher prices , you aren’t able to get good quality bangles which isn’t flaw free.

And if the seller is ethical , any bangle with a flaw ( not necessarily one that compromised the structural durability of the bangle ) , but to a great extent could have affected its aesthetic appeal

But still wants to sell at 2/3/4 K usd $$

Eg . Well shrugs I dunno what to say *. A couple of stone lines that cannot be felt by hand etc or have a few lines that stretch across the bangle. Etc.

Well , Even though you are informed about the flaws as well regarding this . Let’s just say that’s not completely honest other than the seller trying to make quick buck getting the tourist dollar .

And the tourist is vulnerable to this because , they do not know if they have other choices other than the one they just met . They might be confined to limited choices , as they do not know who to approach , who to buy from , who might stocked something for the same amount of $$ , where there are honest sellers ethical enough to sell the items if a couple of defects might lower the price quite reasonably . Or , that for the high tourist dollar they were happy to part with , is at least a bangle that’s free from visible stonelines or obvious defects like low depth stonelines .

When faced with limited choice , one might not be able to discern a Money grubbing seller who is persistent on selling you something $$$$ , but leaves a bad taste in your mouth when u realized , if you were given more choice . You see they are sellers who might still sell a piece of jade for relatively high price . But it commands what it is exactly for .

A perfect selection of a spot of defect free boulder , crafted with expert craftsmen of which the final product is a bangle or pendant , that is equitable on the merits of hard work to produce monetarily . And yet does not shortchange the buyers who is paying a higher amount for a product of nature that can be moulded to perfection , because of good quality control , due to ethical selling .

And of course , many buyers . Faced with limited information are not able to discern this . They might feel that just because a seller is upfront with flaws . That’s complete honesty .


Well . Shrugs . I would say my Hong Kong experience is a good one . My folks are still there , and because I speak the lingo fluently with roots from HK . Sellers don’t normally try to be funny with me .

I realized like for like . Hong Kong jadeite isn’t exactly very cheap for the high quality of jadeite . It’s just probably , the prices are slightly lower than Singapore due to less overheads from the private sellers I buy from . But I m also happy to buy from them due to good experience I have . With grade A jade that’s not necessary cheap . But generally I like the variety and good very QC of private sellers I buy from . As far as I m concerned . I have to like what I m wearing . And not wonder why I pay a few grand for something with obvious flaws still showing .

Local wise in Singapore , I guess those few pages tells us that LH is one can replicate a good buying experience . Without the regrets realizing you buy something at a price that might might be able to get else where for less .
 
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I got this pendant a while ago. Stopped wearing it as it feels heavy. My neck feels tired. Anyone experienced the same prob?

Ohhh yes! I bought this monkey pendant last month and LOVED the carving but didn’t really checkout the size details [emoji85] it’s huge and way to heavy to wear for me. I keep it in my bag as a good luck charm.. haven’t got another solution sorry IMG_0871.jpg
 
Yeah so it’s basically all boil down to honesty .

:)

When I was in Hong Kong . Which really is like a jade haven with all type of jade shops around around.

I realized that there are many type of seller around . Some would try to sell you jade bangles for $10 for price of 3 .

Obviously , those who has some basic knowledge in Jade would be able to tell u that it’s dyed , or treated jade . Which color injected Grade B , C or even D .

Thing is , do they tell you well in advance , if you were asking . Is this treated or grade B ?

They will tell u straight . Yes grade B .

So you know well what you are getting . So if u decide to get it anyway you made an informed choice ..

You pay for what you get . You want and can accept a treated item ? Good fo you , there’s no dishonesty involved .


What’s more dangerous ?

What’s quite bad ?

Some sellers , who does sell Grade A who will try to sell their jadeite at sky high prices . Yes . They might be upfront about the flaws , defects on the bangle . But they also persistently insist , that even high prices bangles is bound to have flaws or cracks .

While what’s expensive is subjective price range for person to person.

It isn’t true that at higher prices , you aren’t able to get good quality bangles which isn’t flaw free.

And if the seller is ethical , any bangle with a flaw ( not necessarily one that compromised the structural durability of the bangle ) , but to a great extent could have affected its aesthetic appeal

But still wants to sell at 2/3/4 K usd $$

Eg . Well shrugs I dunno what to say *. A couple of stone lines that cannot be felt by hand etc or have a few lines that stretch across the bangle. Etc.

Well , Even though you are informed about the flaws as well regarding this . Let’s just say that’s not completely honest other than the seller trying to make quick buck getting the tourist dollar .

And the tourist is vulnerable to this because , they do not know if they have other choices other than the one they just met . They might be confined to limited choices , as they do not know who to approach , who to buy from , who might stocked something for the same amount of $$ , where there are honest sellers ethical enough to sell the items if a couple of defects might lower the price quite reasonably . Or , that for the high tourist dollar they were happy to part with , is at least a bangle that’s free from visible stonelines or obvious defects like low depth stonelines .

When faced with limited choice , one might not be able to discern a Money grubbing seller who is persistent on selling you something $$$$ , but leaves a bad taste in your mouth when u realized , if you were given more choice . You see they are sellers who might still sell a piece of jade for relatively high price . But it commands what it is exactly for .

A perfect selection of a spot of defect free boulder , crafted with expert craftsmen of which the final product is a bangle or pendant , that is equitable on the merits of hard work to produce monetarily . And yet does not shortchange the buyers who is paying a higher amount for a product of nature that can be moulded to perfection , because of good quality control , due to ethical selling .

And of course , many buyers . Faced with limited information are not able to discern this . They might feel that just because a seller is upfront with flaws . That’s complete honesty .


Well . Shrugs . I would say my Hong Kong experience is a good one . My folks are still there , and because I speak the lingo fluently with roots from HK . Sellers don’t normally try to be funny with me .

I realized like for like . Hong Kong jadeite isn’t exactly very cheap for the high quality of jadeite . It’s just probably , the prices are slightly lower than Singapore due to less overheads from the private sellers I buy from . But I m also happy to buy from them due to good experience I have . With grade A jade that’s not necessary cheap . But generally I like the variety and good very QC of private sellers I buy from . As far as I m concerned . I have to like what I m wearing . And not wonder why I pay a few grand for something with obvious flaws still showing .

Local wise in Singapore , I guess those few pages tells us that LH is one can replicate a good buying experience . Without the regrets realizing you buy something at a price that might might be able to get else where for less .

Bernie I appreciate this post as I totally get what you are saying and I agree. I may be inferring my own opinions on your post but I think I get exactly what you are saying.
It is good when a seller discloses flaws but it is not enough. They should lower the price fairly and saying that the price is already lowered does NOT mean that it is. At least not by general industry standards. Ultimately it is a personal choice and decision whether or not to buy.
 
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I just want to share something interesting. Not sure if you all remember I have a lavender bangle with deep purple bits. Well, I’ve been wearing it 24/7 for a period of time now and interestingly, I noticed these translucent spots started appearing. They were not there before.

The overall color has also evened out. Anyone else had this experience? View attachment 4021085

Unfortunately I have not had this happen...my bangles may have become slightly more moist looking but nothing dramatic and no colour changes but thank you for sharing your experience. [emoji4] I love those clear bits in your bangle and it’s just overall a real beauty. [emoji6]
 
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