Susan Hussey, Baroness Hussey of North Bradley, once Lady-inWaiting
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Her health worries me I hope she knows how many people are behind herSo am I.
Very sad.
This made me smile I hope she sees it and it makes her feel better
I agree but I fear Charles will live up to his regal name - the other two didn’t fare well maybe he should be more wary
Let's put it this way:
Asking somebody where he or she is from, is NOT racist.
But a charity that only helps women of one race and not women of an other race is clearly racist.
Ngozi Fulani runs such a charity.
So there ....
Q.E.D.
Asking somebody where he or she is from, is NOT racist.
But a charity that only helps women of one race and not women of an other race is clearly racist.
Ngozi Fulani runs such a charity.
So there ....
Q.E.D.
I am glad that we can talk about this topic here and defend Lady Susan Hussey.
Elsewhere you run the risk to be also attacked as "racist" if you dare to defend Lady Susan Hussey.
Elsewhere you run the risk to be also attacked as "racist" if you dare to defend Lady Susan Hussey.
I know and thousands of irate people of colour are as annoyed as we are by the treatment of Lady Susan they can see the real situation
So it is - and thank God for that!
I found this good article:
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Race-baiting subversives are bending the Monarchy to their will
The Lady Hussey affair reveals the spineless deference of the press - and the Palace - when racism is mentioned.
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I just imagine I saw a girl in a beautiful Black Forest costume at some meeting in Berlin.
Now as I myself am from the Black Forest I would ask her out of a friendly interest: "Where are you from?" expecting to hear the name of some Black Forest village. But instead she would tell me the name of the firm she is working for - and then where the headquarter of that firm is.
Disappointed I might ask then: "No, I mean, which Black Forest village costume are you wearing?" And then it would turn out that her costume is fake and she does not really know where her family is from.
And then later I had to read in all newspapers that I had "interrogated" her and behaved very rudely in general.
And I would be fired from my job.
I can really feel how Lady Hussey must feel now.
Now as I myself am from the Black Forest I would ask her out of a friendly interest: "Where are you from?" expecting to hear the name of some Black Forest village. But instead she would tell me the name of the firm she is working for - and then where the headquarter of that firm is.
Disappointed I might ask then: "No, I mean, which Black Forest village costume are you wearing?" And then it would turn out that her costume is fake and she does not really know where her family is from.
And then later I had to read in all newspapers that I had "interrogated" her and behaved very rudely in general.
And I would be fired from my job.
I can really feel how Lady Hussey must feel now.
This is a good analogy. I can see myself similarly interested in someone wearing something akin to a traditional garment. I would never touch their hair because...ew.... but I can see that someone older might do that. (ew).
I’ve been in this situation many times, asked where I’m “really from,” and imo it’s hard to judge this situation without actually being there. Tone, persistence, intent, etc - how it is said - contributes to how offensive it is. I think it’s inappropriate and borderline rude to ask about heritage persistently to a stranger… asking anything personal persistently to a stranger really. If you substitute nationality with age, sexual orientation, religion, marital status, children status, etc it would be considered rude. I’m sure William had a chance to actually talk to this person and if he felt it was too inappropriate/unprofessional to have her stay, based on that, I have a hard time doubting his experience here.
I’m sure wills did not speak to her he was in Boston it was dealt with by the staff of his private secretary - badly
You cannot compare etiquette at a British Royal Palace to any other meeting social or business - attendees are thoroughly briefed and expected to follow the etiquette /rules whatever colour you are - surely it’s racist to expect to avoid all rules just because you are non white? A world with no rules at all? Or should rules only apply to white people? It is an honour to be invited to these events and everyone should show respect and manners and decorum - sadly missing in so many people nowadays
I have endured all sorts of racism and sexism for more years than most posters here have been on the earth - times change and things are so much better but some people are just taking things to a crazy level - the world is in a bad enough state let’s try and be sensible and reasonable
She merely brushed the bottom of long strands off the name badge no doubt in despair from the lack of grace being displayed to see who and what the rude person was in case it was a security issue -it’s not as if she grabbed her hair aggressively or put her hand on her head or face I’m sure touching even that small bit was a desperate last resort she did not want to do but next stage would maybe have been calling in the heavy mob to escalate things and she was trying to avoid that
And if you dressed up in a heritage costume at a formal function (when everyone else isn’t and are in smart party or business attire) you wouldn’t expect anyone to ask you about it ???? I think anyone doing that would feel slighted if the hosts didn’t acknowledge it -“ my costume and heritage was ignored “ if I went to all that trouble I’d be miffed if everyone ignored it - but everyone is different with different feelings - takes all sorts to make a world my old granny used to say - and everyone is entitled to their opinion we aren’t under a dictatorship
And of course as our beloved Queen said recollections may vary
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May I politely contradict?
I think Lady Hussey had good reasons to ask those questions.
Wasn't it her job to know something of a guest before introducing her to Queen Camilla?
Ngozi Fulani Fulani provoked the whole affair:
Her fake costume made the question: "Where are you from?" even more normal than usual.
Her evasive answers provoked these series of questions.
And then she knew nothing better than to record a private conversation and to flood the whole news world with this case.
Malice and ill will at every corner!
No, she is NOT the innocent victim! She is the active provocateur of it all.
You are practically taking the words out of my mouth!
I was going to write exactly that! Lady Hussey did not touch that hear in the way some people might do - out of an impolite curiosity to see how the hair of a black person feels. She just wanted to see the name badge. And her job gave her every right to see and read that name badge.
Very badly indeed.
If Will’s staff spoke to her and he felt this was appropriate that’s good to me. They have critical information we the public do not… they can actually speak to her and get more information about her intention, point of view, etc. all we have is the other woman’s tweet. There is surely a possibility here that we do not know the full story but the right people do.
May I politely contradict?
I think Lady Hussey had good reasons to ask those questions.
Wasn't it her job to know something of a guest before introducing her to Queen Camilla?
Ngozi Fulani Fulani provoked the whole affair:
Her fake costume made the question: "Where are you from?" even more normal than usual.
Her evasive answers provoked these series of questions.
And then she knew nothing better than to record a private conversation and to flood the whole news world with this case.
Malice and ill will at every corner!
No, she is NOT the innocent victim! She is the active provocateur of it all.
You are practically taking the words out of my mouth!
Lady Hussey did not touch that hear in the way some people might do - out of an impolite curiosity to see how the hair of a black person feels. She just wanted to see the name badge. And her job gave her every right to see and read that name badge.
Very badly indeed.
All you and I have are opinions based on social media and our imagination. That’s why I said it’s difficult to judge unless you’re there. That’s also why I weigh Will’s judgment better than ours.. he has more information. His staff do not need to say “what if she thought…” they can ask the lady and they acted on this more complete picture than we do.
And fwiw I do not think there’s anything inherently bad by asking “where are you from?” I assume nothing about her intentions so they very well could have been good. But the way she asked was not appropriate. On any topic, if you do this to a stranger this is rude. Imagine: “how old are you?” “No how old are you really?” “You don’t look like it. How old are you really?” “I knew you’d finally say it.” 1st time, no problem but the way it was handled was rude. If Will’s staff talked to her, I give them the benefit of the doubt too that they heard something that they didn’t like and took action on that.
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Thanks for the extra info you have come up with - an interesting ding-dong in the replies to this Unherd article! I particularly like last line of the article : “Better to die standing than live on your knees”. Amen to that!And:
King Charles should not meet Ngozi Fulani
On the scaffold at the Banqueting House on 30th January 1649, Charles I is said to have expressed deep remorse for having signed the death warrant of his close ally Thomas Wentworth, Earl of Strafford. He had done so eight years earlier, under great pressure from his enemies in Parliament, in...unherd.com
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