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Even I would be tempted in wg. I have yg but blue is my favourite to wear and wg and blue is so crisp.
Yes, I agree with you. Blue and white, whether it be turquoise, lapis, blue agate, are so crispy!
YG is beautiful too in its own way, and it's a very warm look.

I almost caved and thought, what the heck, I'll just get the blue agate in YG 20, the bracelets, and SO the earrings which I could do. But then I smacked myself on the head and said nope... I'm not a YG person (never ever wear YG anymore), and I'm just buying it because there is nothing else. If next year, VCA still won't do a 20 in WG blue agate, I'll just have to move on!

I also think maybe a full set is too much of an ask for stones, especially now. I would have thought VCA would want to accept SOs such as a full set as they make more money (they accepted the Hellebore which is now a SO). But perhaps it's the "perfectly matched stones" issue they do not want to deal with. A full set would be 32 perfectly matched stones, so I wonder if that is another reason too. Who knows, just wild guesses.

I was thinking the other day about SOs, and if I were VCA, I would just stop them under a certain price point. It's a waste of time for them, and it allows their clients to think of too many options. For example, several years ago, I asked Tiffany if they would do a custom order (their terminology for SO). The minimum threshold was $50K at the time, and Tiffany said then it has to be a custom piece, not just something in the same design with different metal or stones. I actually like that policy as what you see online and in the stores, is what you can get. There is no dreaming, because once you know you can mix and match with SOs/custom orders, the mind never stops dreaming of the endless possibilities.

More importantly, Tiffany, VCA, Cartier... aside from high jewelry commissioned pieces, they are all just retail stock companies, not "have it your way" custom design companies. Another reason to stay true to their brand.

My SA did mention something about Sweets being online only or something. Maybe VCA is starting to change their retail model to be like Cartier/Tiffany which both these brands constantly have new pieces coming out. Yet, VCA is stuck with the same combinations which then forces clients to SO. I was thinking perhaps their new Lotus line is part of that expansion... add more options to their regular line.

If I were VCA, I would not spend my time making $5K SO bracelets or earrings. Seems like such a waste of time for a luxury jeweler house. Just add a few more selections of WG Alhambra and be done with it. There is already tons of YG. RG to me is a trend, it's been big since 2010s (the Millennial Pink trend that keeps dragging on), but after a few more years, RG will die down, hence the two metals they need to focus on are just YG and WG which these two are timeless. That's just my opinion, VCA needs to focus and not waste their time with SOs. And instead of MTO, just stock it! :biggrin:

For WG, I think all VCA needs to add is a bright summer stone. At least that's what I want... something happy for the summer. We'll see what Spring 2022 brings. :biggrin:

I do like though that VCA offers a lot of WG in the other lines (Lotus, Frivole), so that is a big plus.
 
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sorry to be a downer on this topic, but when I SOed a piece that was planned for regular production, they took my order and just did charge me the additional fee.
Was that the GMOP? I recall you had just SOd that piece and then it came out? Is that correct? Did they give you any credit back? I doubt it.

So to your point, maybe WG agate is not coming out as part of the regular line! Debbie Downer! :biggrin: :hugs:
 
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If I were VCA, I would not spend my time making $5K SO bracelets or earrings. Seems like such a waste of time for a luxury jeweler house. Just add a few more selections of WG and be done with it. There is already tons of YG. RG to me is a trend, it's been big since 2010s (the Millennial Pink trend that keeps dragging on), but after a few more years, RG will die down, hence the two metals they need to focus on are just YG and WG which these two are timeless. That's just my opinion, VCA needs to focus and not waste their time with SOs. And instead of MTO, just stock it! :biggrin:

I don’t think PG is a trend - too many of us have discovered that it’s softer, the most flattering of the three options for us. I don’t see the demand for it dying down. When I saw the 20 onyx/pg I ordered, it was a relief - exactly what I’d anticipated - soft, wearable, pretty. YG can be harsh, and not everyone can wear WG/YG. while I love my YG SO pieces, I do wish they were PG instead.
 
Was that the GMOP? I recall you had just SOd that piece and then it came out? Is that correct? Did they give you any credit back? I doubt it.

So to your point, maybe WG agate is not coming out as part of the regular line! Debbie Downer! :biggrin: :hugs:
It was VA pave earrings in PG. No I was never overcharged, I paid the regular price. My understanding is that if your order within six months of them planning to release it, they won’t charge you. Of course, that means I was just lucky, not psychic!

sorry to be a downer! I hope I’m wrong and they release the pieces in white gold!
 
It was VA pave earrings in PG. No I was never overcharged, I paid the regular price. My understanding is that if your order within six months of them planning to release it, they won’t charge you. Of course, that means I was just lucky, not psychic!

sorry to be a downer! I hope I’m wrong and they release the pieces in white gold!
Nice! You got lucky!
I don’t think PG is a trend - too many of us have discovered that it’s softer, the most flattering of the three options for us. I don’t see the demand for it dying down. When I saw the 20 onyx/pg I ordered, it was a relief - exactly what I’d anticipated - soft, wearable, pretty. YG can be harsh, and not everyone can wear WG/YG. while I love my YG SO pieces, I do wish they were PG instead.
The funny thing about the rose/pink trend, a major reason analyst have rationalized why Millenial Pink has not yet died down is that this shade photographs the best on social media. It the best for digital images to soften up looks which is to your point about how it softens up oynx.

Isn't that funny about the popularity of rose/pink? Who knows. You could be right... it could be the new color in the 21st century digital age.
 
Nice! You got lucky!
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The funny thing about the rose/pink trend, a major reason analyst have rationalized why Millenial Pink has not yet died down is that this shade photographs the best on social media. It the best for digital images to soften up looks which is to your point about how it softens up oynx.

Isn't that funny about the popularity of rose/pink? Who knows. You could be right... it could be the new color in the 21st century digital age.

i remember when it was popular in the late 70s/early 80s but not like this at all. I just think most of the big name designers have produced so much in pg it’s not going away...people will always want pieces to match. Its popularity may die down as styles change, but so many people have pg jewelry now, I think it will hold its own across collections. JMO.
 
I'm surprised you're not vip!
You know we cannot wait to see your ring! We will need all.the.pics!
I think there are different levels of VIPs from what I understand. If I ever get offered that free weekend to Paris, I'll turn it down and say just make me that WG turquoise set! Yea... in my dreams! :biggrin::biggrin:

I am really excited about the ring! A blue agate set would have been a fun color, but the ring... ooh... the ring is what gives me that ear to ear smile.
 
I don’t think PG is a trend - too many of us have discovered that it’s softer, the most flattering of the three options for us. I don’t see the demand for it dying down. When I saw the 20 onyx/pg I ordered, it was a relief - exactly what I’d anticipated - soft, wearable, pretty. YG can be harsh, and not everyone can wear WG/YG. while I love my YG SO pieces, I do wish they were PG instead.
+1 it’s 18K gold for God’s sake:biggrin:… that’s as classic as it gets in my mind:heart:
Like you I love the subtlety and softness of rose gold. It’s such a nice go in-between the two extremes of YG and WG!
 
I asked in Fall 2020, for a WG turquoise three piece set: 20 motif necklace, 5 motif bracelet, VA earrings. I got a no.

Since we're talking SO, I also want to share some other info...
I recently went to order a WG blue agate set, but this time, a four piece set, not three: 20 motif necklace, two 5 motif bracelets, VA earrings. I got a no on the full set as he said quality agate is scarce. I told my SA, no, I don't just want earrings or a bracelet; I want a full matching set. I also listed I want medium-light blue bright stones; I do not want the dark lapis look-alike stones. Perhaps I was too picky with my request, but I like full sets so it's all or nothing for me. Well, I guess it's nothing for me... for now! :annoyed: :biggrin:

SOs are very limited now as VCA wants to focus on their regular popular items, so I think my request was also poor timing. Perhaps by Summer 2022 things will ease up. Or even better yet, perhaps by then, blue agate will come in WG (great thought from @DS2006 )! :nuts::heart:

I would bet though for the VIPs who spend a $500K+ annually, they can get whatever they want as my SA once told me they get priority over anything. :shocked:

Oh, one more thing I want to add...
My SA was giving me an update on a ring I ordered about a month ago (Hellebore in lapis). My SA told me they are having a really difficult time sourcing quality lapis (hint hint, expect a long wait for your ring), but he did say VCA is working on making my ring and he is trying to get it done as fast as possible (yippee yippee). That lead into a discussion the Hellebore collection is going to be SO (no longer MTO), and there is even talk it will be limited in who can order these pieces due to the scarcity of quality lapis. Hence, I want share if anyone is interested in Hellebore, order now if you want something from that collection.

Such drama these days... I told my SA I'm running out of VCA WG ideas! :annoyed: He actually agreed VCA needs to make more WG, so maybe it will happen. :nuts::heart::heart:

Hope this was helpful to some of you. This is only my experience of course. I am sure others who are VIPs have had favorable results with SOs.
I hope by next year, VCA comes out with Blue Agate in WG as part of their regular offerings. The demand is certainly there.
In the meanwhile, I am really looking forward to your lapis ring. It will be spectacular :hbeat:
 
I don’t think PG is a trend - too many of us have discovered that it’s softer, the most flattering of the three options for us. I don’t see the demand for it dying down. When I saw the 20 onyx/pg I ordered, it was a relief - exactly what I’d anticipated - soft, wearable, pretty. YG can be harsh, and not everyone can wear WG/YG. while I love my YG SO pieces, I do wish they were PG instead.
When I was in Paris last month, I had this exact conversation with a couple jewelry houses (Bulgari, Cartier). PG is considered softer - more in demand / preferred in Europe than YG. You will find some YG pieces available in the US and not in Europe for this very reason. PG does not look good on me, however, when there is a lower amount of copper used (Clash and Serpenti collections) it works stunningly.
 
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If I were VCA, I would not spend my time making $5K SO bracelets or earrings. Seems like such a waste of time for a luxury jeweler house. Just add a few more selections of WG Alhambra and be done with it. There is already tons of YG. RG to me is a trend, it's been big since 2010s (the Millennial Pink trend that keeps dragging on), but after a few more years, RG will die down, hence the two metals they need to focus on are just YG and WG which these two are timeless. That's just my opinion, VCA needs to focus and not waste their time with SOs. And instead of MTO, just stock it! :biggrin:

For WG, I think all VCA needs to add is a bright summer stone. At least that's what I want... something happy for the summer. We'll see what Spring 2022 brings. :biggrin:
Perfectly stated.

I truly don’t understand why they require us to SO much WG (or not :cursing: now). Save everyone time and headache and just make it a standard.

Like you, I’m waiting on them to do WG BA 20 and earrings.
 
When I was in Paris last month, I had this exact conversation with a couple jewelry houses (Bulgari, Cartier). PG is considered softer - more in demand / preferred in Europe than YG. You will find some YG pieces available in the US and not in Europe for this very reason. PG does not look good on me, however, when there is a lower amount of copper used (Clash and Serpenti collections) it works stunningly.
I’m the same way. The best non white gold on me is the half way pink/yellows. The pink pink like Tiffany disappears on my skin and some yellows are just too yellow, they make me look green.
I love Cartier pink that has oxidized haha.
 
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