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This might be repeated and useless. But for those who may be interested in HAC, here is some comparison photo with my B40.
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Overall I find the HAC size is not much bigger than B40. The weight for this particular one is lighter than full leather B.

The one only I don’t like is the the square turnkey which I need to turn to right to get one strap one then turn again for the other. While Birkin circle turnkey is better. Does anyone know the history for the square turnkey as I saw some HAC32 is with circle turkey.
 
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fatcat2523 said:
This might be repeated and useless. But for those who may be interested in HAC, here is some comparison photo with my B40.
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Overall I find the HAC size is not much bigger than B40. The weight for this particular one is lighter than full leather B.

The one only I don’t like is the the square turnkey which I need to turn to right to get one strap one then turn again for the other. While Birkin circle turnkey is better. Does anyone know the history for the square turnkey as I saw some HAC32 is with circle turkey.
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Really useful, thanks! I love my HAC 40 but on occasion the depth of the bag can feel a little ‘much’ and can bang into the side on my leg.

B40 is next on my list, with the added benefit of a couple pockets to boot!
 
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fatcat2523 said:
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The one only I don’t like is the the square turnkey which I need to turn to right to get one strap one then turn again for the other. While Birkin circle turnkey is better. Does anyone know the history for the square turnkey as I saw some HAC32 is with circle turkey.
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Bear in mind that the roots of the HAC date back to the last decade of the nineteenth century. It was a saddlery item and a robust form of closure was needed. It remained a large bag, a luggage item, until almost 100 years later when the Birkin form was designed and some years after that when the less wide HACs were offered.
The Kelly genesis is from the 1930s. This was a true hand-bag (sac à main de voyages) and at some time the circular, lighter, touret evolved. This presented itself as a more suitable style of closure for the smaller Birkin hand-bag.
The HACs less than 40cm which have the circular touret are relatively recent.
 
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fatcat2523 said:
So did your HAC has the same issue with turning the the turnkey to gat straps off?
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It does, although I feel the bigger turn lock matches the scale of the rest of the hardware and have tuned into rotate one way, then the other to open/close. My only observation is this closure seems to cause the hardware plates against each other and mark a little more freely.

Further to how @PJW5813 so eloquently put it, this classic closure is perhaps a little overkill for ‘on-the-go’ modern life?
 
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FreddieMac said:
Really useful, thanks! I love my HAC 40 but on occasion the depth of the bag can feel a little ‘much’ and can bang into the side on my leg.
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I so agree; I have a 45 and think it is something anyone thinking about a HAC or larger Birkin should consider.

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So did your HAC has the same issue with turning the the turnkey to gat straps off?
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Yes, but I don't find it a problem.
 
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PJW5813 said:
Bear in mind that the roots of the HAC date back to the last decade of the nineteenth century. It was a saddlery item and a robust form of closure was needed. It remained a large bag, a luggage item, until almost 100 years later when the Birkin form was designed and some years after that when the less wide HACs were offered.
The Kelly genesis is from the 1930s. This was a true hand-bag (sac à main de voyages) and at some time the circular, lighter, touret evolved. This presented itself as a more suitable style of closure for the smaller Birkin hand-bag.
The HACs less than 40cm which have the circular touret are relatively recent.
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Thank you PJW, now I know. I guessed H kept the square tourer to keep the original look of the bag. Make so much sense now.
 
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FreddieMac said:
It does, although I feel the bigger turn lock matches the scale of the rest of the hardware and have tuned into rotate one way, then the other to open/close. My only observation is this closure seems to cause the hardware plates against each other and mark a little more freely.

Further to how @PJW5813 so eloquently put it, this classic closure is perhaps a little overkill for ‘on-the-go’ modern life?
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I guessed I will keep my bag open while using it to avoid constant open and closing the bag
 
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fatcat2523 said:
Lol only 2 times, wow it must be very unpractical to use.
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for me it was, as I don't carry much. just a laptop during weekdays, a book/Kindle, a pouch containing headphones powerbank charger, bottle of water, wallet, and keys. sometimes I used it to carry my groceries as well. but that's about it. was thinking about using it as a gym bag but was too afraid it might get stolen.
 
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allanrvj said:
for me it was, as I don't carry much. just a laptop during weekdays, a book/Kindle, a pouch containing headphones powerbank charger, bottle of water, wallet, and keys. sometimes I used it to carry my groceries as well. but that's about it. was thinking about using it as a gym bag but was too afraid it might get stolen.
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Does your gym have a locker big enough for the bag? Also, do you think the felt will retain any scent?
 
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nats said:
Does your gym have a locker big enough for the bag? Also, do you think the felt will retain any scent?
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It has but I have a friend whose valuables got stolen when they were inside the locker. I don’t know how, though.

Mine was not felt but all leather. But I guess felt would retain the scent more coz of the spaces between the fibers.
 
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