Sean Combs - Diddy *warning*

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limom said:
She was 19 when they got together. Obviously, there was a power unbalance.
Plus, she was exploring her sexuality until it went too far.
She might have agreed to have sex with an extra person to please her boyfriend at first.
Then it went overboard.
One can be freaky and still be violated and mistreated.
Diddy also beat her up. It is not that hard to understand.
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I'm old. When I was growing up if a girl put out too much, she got a reputation. Yes, I went through the swinging sixties, but I can't forget how being loose and easy was infamy before free love.

So it can be hard for me to understand how a nice, pretty girl would allow herself to be degraded in public.

It's a new world, I know and that's why I asked the question - she initially agreed to it, but why. And you did answer it, she was exploring perhaps, or trying to please a BF.

If anyone can stand to hear some more - he wanted her to do it without the drugs.

Also, I heard on the news that the experts (?) were asking why did no one (since it was very well known) help her.
 
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Swanky said:
Groomed females are different from girls that "put out easily".
She was NINETEEN, he's 17 years older, almost double her age....
If one thinks she was not violated and is now just here for the money then it's hard to have a conversation imo. No wonder women don't come forward, SMH
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Right... And I think everyone is forgetting that this all went down prior to #metoo.
 
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I've seen the recording of the domestic violence/assault he committed against Cassie (not the first or last) in the hotel... watching him assault her and then drag her back into the room by her hair was enough for me.

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Jayne1 said:
I'm old. When I was growing up if a girl put out too much, she got a reputation. Yes, I went through the swinging sixties, but I can't forget how being loose and easy was infamy before free love.

So it can be hard for me to understand how a nice, pretty girl would allow herself to be degraded in public.

It's a new world, I know and that's why I asked the question - she initially agreed to it, but why. And you did answer it, she was exploring perhaps, or trying to please a BF.

If anyone can stand to hear some more - he wanted her to do it without the drugs.

Also, I heard on the news that the experts (?) were asking why did no one (since it was very well known) help her.
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I am older too and was raised to think the same way.
However, upon reflection, I realized that I was taught and believed wrong.
I remember myself as a teenage girl, I was grown outside and a baby inside.
I was cat called constantly and heard disgusting dialogue from the time I was about 13.
Think back to that time, were you able to withstand pressure from an adult?
I have taken so many nonsensical decisions as a kid. Lucky for me, I never met a Diddy.
As far as her agreeing to group sex, this was gradual. She started when she was 22 by that time, she was under his emprise, imho.
In short, it can happen to anyone. The man is a predator and knows how to manipulate his victims.
As far as why no one helped her?
FEAR.

www.rollingstone.com

Bad Boy for Life: Sean Combs' History of Violence

Rolling Stone's six-month investigation includes dozens of former friends, employees, and Bad Boy artists alleging an abusive, violent figure.
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I just felt trapped,” she said.

Mr. Combs, one of the most famous names in hip-hop for decades, has pleaded not guilty to charges of sex trafficking, racketeering conspiracy and transportation to engage in prostitution. His lawyers have argued that Ms. Ventura, and another woman who is part of the case, were willing participants in the marathon sex sessions that are at the heart of the prosecution’s case.

In bringing forward what Ms. Ventura described as threats of blackmail, the government was attempting to rebut arguments by the defense that the sex was consensual and the charges an attempt to criminalize unconventional, but lawful, behavior.

Defense lawyers are scheduled to begin their cross-examination of Ms. Ventura on Thursday.

Ms. Ventura’s matter-of-fact tone during hours of testimony disguised the extraordinary violence and dysfunction she said were part of her drug-fueled relationship with Mr. Combs, who was also her record-label boss.

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“He would grab me up,” Ms. Ventura said in describing Mr. Combs during sexual encounters with the men he had hired. “Push me down. Hit me in the side of the head. Kick me. You name it.”

She read a text message she sent to Mr. Combs in 2017. “You treat me like you’re Ike Turner,” the text said, referring to Tina Turner’s former husband, who was abusive to her.

She stayed in the relationship, Ms. Ventura has said, in part because she loved Mr. Combs and in part because of how much damage she thought would result if the world, her family, her mother saw the footage.
 
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limom said:

I just felt trapped,” she said.

Mr. Combs, one of the most famous names in hip-hop for decades, has pleaded not guilty to charges of sex trafficking, racketeering conspiracy and transportation to engage in prostitution. His lawyers have argued that Ms. Ventura, and another woman who is part of the case, were willing participants in the marathon sex sessions that are at the heart of the prosecution’s case.

In bringing forward what Ms. Ventura described as threats of blackmail, the government was attempting to rebut arguments by the defense that the sex was consensual and the charges an attempt to criminalize unconventional, but lawful, behavior.

Defense lawyers are scheduled to begin their cross-examination of Ms. Ventura on Thursday.

Ms. Ventura’s matter-of-fact tone during hours of testimony disguised the extraordinary violence and dysfunction she said were part of her drug-fueled relationship with Mr. Combs, who was also her record-label boss.

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“He would grab me up,” Ms. Ventura said in describing Mr. Combs during sexual encounters with the men he had hired. “Push me down. Hit me in the side of the head. Kick me. You name it.”

She read a text message she sent to Mr. Combs in 2017. “You treat me like you’re Ike Turner,” the text said, referring to Tina Turner’s former husband, who was abusive to her.

She stayed in the relationship, Ms. Ventura has said, in part because she loved Mr. Combs and in part because of how much damage she thought would result if the world, her family, her mother saw the footage.
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It takes a strong stomach just to read about what Cassie went through, I can’t even begin to imagine the pain she endured.

 
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bag-princess said:
I am absolutely shocked that when she sued him for abuse in 2023 and he settled and paid her $20 million :wtf: :wtf: (she revealed this amount for the first time in court) that his lawyers did not have her sign some kind of something to keep this from coming out.
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The lawyers on this thread please correct if this is wrong but I read that an NDA is superseded by a subpoena and that NDAs may not be enforceable in sex abuse or harassment cases.
 
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Jayne1 said:
So it can be hard for me to understand how a nice, pretty girl would allow herself to be degraded in public.

It's a new world, I know and that's why I asked the question - she initially agreed to it, but why. And you did answer it, she was exploring perhaps, or trying to please a BF.
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I’m older too but not so old that I don’t remember the confidence, okay the overconfidence, that young women can have. You believe you can handle yourself in any situation, but you can’t.

You don’t meet someone like Diddy by chance. These are women who were attracted by the celebrity’s fame, wealth, power, etc. Once they met him, they were flattered by his attention and they would do anything to keep his interest. Maybe they loved him (or believed they did.) That is how it begins. It’s a gradual process where the man takes control and the woman goes along and goes along until she reaches a point where she can’t take back her autonomy.
 
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bag-mania said:
I’m older too but not so old that I don’t remember the confidence, okay the overconfidence, that young women can have. You believe you can handle yourself in any situation, but you can’t.

You don’t meet someone like Diddy by chance. These are women who were attracted by the celebrity’s fame, wealth, power, etc. Once they met him, they were flattered by his attention and they would do anything to keep his interest. Maybe they loved him (or believed they did.) That is how it begins. It’s a gradual process where the man takes control and the woman goes along and goes along until she reaches a point where she can’t take back her autonomy.
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And then who are you going to tell?
One of my family member was physically abused, she finally called her dad who had to rescue her.
It was ugly but she got out and her father was not arrested.
She lost her confidence for years.
Cassie must have felt the same, plus she had to imagine her parents seeing the tapes.
 
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Diddy is a predator.. A person who ruthlessly exploits others for a multitude of reasons.
His wealth, his power was an aphrodisiac for her & many others.
It takes courage & strength for Cassie to relive this horrific period in her life.
There were so many drugs, alcohol & who knows what else.. & no let up from much of her testimony
A sex slave & then some..
We can only hope that justice is served & that for other women who are in an abusive relationship
will not be afraid to get help, report the person & seek justice.
No one deserves to be beaten up in the manner that Cassie was & sure there are others who
have experienced the same & perhaps worse.
And in spite of a woman having a "reputation" no woman deserves physical abuse in that manner, JMO
 
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limom said:
And then who are you going to tell?
One of my family member was physically abused, she finally called her dad who had to rescue her.
It was ugly but she got out and her father was not arrested.
She lost her confidence for years.
Cassie must have felt the same, plus she had to imagine her parents seeing the tapes.
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It’s rough.

In answer to the earlier question about why other people outside the relationship don’t offer help, there are instances where help is not wanted or appreciated. Several years ago a coworker of mine saw a guy slapping his girlfriend around and yelling at her in the parking lot of our office (neither of them worked there.) My friend, trying to be a Good Samaritan, walked over and calmly tried to talk to the guy to diffuse things. Not only did the guy turn around and hit my friend, but the girlfriend started screaming at him to mind his own business! So no, without knowing the dynamics of the relationship and the current mindset of the woman being abused, helping isn’t always welcome.
 
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Love Of My Life said:
And in spite of a woman having a "reputation" no woman deserves physical abuse in that manner, JMO
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My point was - there once was a time that being too loose got you a reputation and if you went out with an older, sexual kind of guy, you may as well go to third-base in the backseat of your BF's car, because that won't seem as bad.

But as I said, it's a new world.

And no of course, no woman, or man (I added that for you) deserves physical abuse in that manner. In her testimony, she said it started when she was 22 and she really loved him and wanted to please him. Is the trial about domestic violence or is it about something else? What is this case about?
 
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