Quality of Tiffany jewelry compared to other designer brands

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Because you have given incorrect information.

1. You misquoted the Victoria diamond quality.

2. You used TRR as a website to back up your beliefs- which gives very vague information and has had a history of selling fake Tiffany (yes I have seen obvious fakes)

3. Others have told you that they are aware that Fashion lines (Tiffany views as Fashion lines) include as low as J/SI1 stones but you insisted other lines include these as well.

4. You also said that the Victoria line can be found at “any department store”


I will 100% admit that the quality in some pieces went down. If you compare the weight of a 2000 Heart Tag Bracelet to today you will feel a difference. In 2013 the small Victoria was .36 cttw and now it is .32. However, that does not mean the pieces aren’t still well made and hold value more than the material costs.

As I said before- it is not just Tiffany that has a change in quality. I personally experienced the quality difference at VCA and it took Cartier quite some time to work out the issues in the attached screw system design in the Love Bracelet.
1. The Tiffany store itself provided me with this info. I was there with my husband, we were discussing the surprising stone quality and he remembers it as well.
2. I agree that TRR might not be the best source, that’s why I also included information from the Tiffany website, which you decided to ignore.
3. See previous answers.
4. Yes, Victoria pieces can be easily mistaken with the other pieces available, the design difference between them is minor.
Cartier love bracelets are notorious for their clasp problems, that is the reason I don’t even consider them in regular size and purchased a small one. Even if other brands have quality issues, it does not excuse Tiffany and vice versa.
 
1. The Tiffany store itself provided me with this info. I was there with my husband, we were discussing the surprising stone quality and he remembers it as well.
2. I agree that TRR might not be the best source, that’s why I also included information from the Tiffany website, which you decided to ignore.
3. See previous answers.
4. Yes, Victoria pieces can be easily mistaken with the other pieces available, the design difference between them is minor.
Cartier love bracelets are notorious for their clasp problems, that is the reason I don’t even consider them in regular size and purchased a small one. Even if other brands have quality issues, it does not excuse Tiffany and vice versa.
FYI - I did not ignore the 4 prong setting pendant. Tiffany views the melee sizes in that design as fashion.
 
FYI - I did not ignore the 4 prong setting pendant. Tiffany views the melee sizes in that design as fashion.
It was a screenshot of stud earrings in platinum. So you want to tell me that Tiffany sees their classic piece with 0.15 stones as fashion, but their vine pendant with 0.05 stones as a worthy jewelry for higher quality stones? Amazing :lol:
Btw it seems that Tiffany deleted their stone quality from the website, after the start of the thread :lol: It seems like someone from there is reading this forum carefully. I’ll attach the screenshot made couple days ago again and the one made today.

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1. The Tiffany store itself provided me with this info. I was there with my husband, we were discussing the surprising stone quality and he remembers it as well.
2. I agree that TRR might not be the best source, that’s why I also included information from the Tiffany website, which you decided to ignore.
3. See previous answers.
4. Yes, Victoria pieces can be easily mistaken with the other pieces available, the design difference between them is minor.
Cartier love bracelets are notorious for their clasp problems, that is the reason I don’t even consider them in regular size and purchased a small one. Even if other brands have quality issues, it does not excuse Tiffany and vice versa.
I agree- no brand should go down in quality. However, if you are comparing the 3 brands then you can say all have had their quality issues.

So if you compare the 3 for a gold bracelet (the member’s original question) than the person may be better with a wider Tiffany bangle over a Cartier Love. Tiffany bangles have had less issues than newer versions of Loves. If looking for a wire bangle than may be better with a thin JUC
 
It was a screenshot of stud earrings in platinum. So you want to tell me that Tiffany sees their classic piece with 0.15 stones as fashion, but their vine pendant with 0.05 stones as a worthy jewelry for higher quality stones? Amazing :lol:
Sadly it is about price. A high end purchase was once $5000 or more. Some designs would be considered this as well. Everything else under that was considered fashion. I can educate you a lot about a brand.
 
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Sadly it is about price. A high end purchase was once $5000 or more. Some designs would be considered this as well. Everything else under that was considered fashion. I can educate you a lot about a brand.
Vine pendant is less than 5k and was even cheaper 2 years ago when I inquired about the stones. But people here are still trying to say that I made up the stone quality and it is impossible that victoria line has stones of color worse than G. Many victoria pieces are cheaper than 5k.
 
Vine pendant is less than 5k and was even cheaper 2 years ago when I inquired about the stones. But people here are still trying to say that I made up the stone quality and it is impossible that victoria line has stones of color worse than G. Many victoria pieces are cheaper than 5k.
Victoria is considered one of the exception lines. There are very few of these. Most fashion lines are under $5000 - some keys, Return to Tiffany, 4 prong set earrings/pendants, etc tend to fall into the fashion line category- silver DBTY I believe as well
 
Vine pendant is less than 5k and was even cheaper 2 years ago when I inquired about the stones. But people here are still trying to say that I made up the stone quality and it is impossible that victoria line has stones of color worse than G. Many victoria pieces are cheaper than 5k.
Gold melee DBTY go down to I and platinum DBTY are G
 
Victoria is considered one of the exception lines. There are very few of these. Most fashion lines are under $5000 - some keys, Return to Tiffany, 4 prong set earrings/pendants, etc tend to fall into the fashion line category- silver DBTY I believe as well
So Tiffany considers only few of their lines exceptional, but still charges exceptional markup for all of their pieces. Well done.
 
I’m confused re what Tiffany considers “fashion” jewelry?

I have never seen clarity/color listed on pieces on the Tiffany site and I’ve browsed intermittently for 6 years or so. But I’ve never looked at their stud earrings/solitaire pendants.

ETA: I have a gold ring and gold necklace I bought on Etsy and love to bits and the markup on those was nearly Tiffany-level. In fact, many small online jewelry brands have very high markups, on the level of Tiffany’s. Brands I’d never heard of before. So I guess I don’t find Tiffany’s prices shocking in that context.
 
I’m confused re what Tiffany considers “fashion” jewelry?

I have never seen clarity/color listed on pieces on the Tiffany site and I’ve browsed intermittently for 6 years or so. But I’ve never looked at their stud earrings/solitaire pendants.

ETA: I have a gold ring and gold necklace I bought on Etsy and love to bits and the markup on those was nearly Tiffany-level. In fact, many small online jewelry brands have very high markups, on the level of Tiffany’s. Brands I’d never heard of before. So I guess I don’t find Tiffany’s prices shocking in that context.

I’m not really sure about what counts as fashion jewelry, either. The only example I can think of is keys. Because I remember in my local Tiffany’s old layout that the keys were split in two different cases. I didn’t think much of it, but one collection was upstairs and the other was downstairs. The downstairs keys had more metal and less diamonds — like the heart key, daisy key, and oval key. And I distinctly remember Victoria and enchant keys being put together upstairs. (I also remembered that I actually purchased a large Victoria key for my mom a few years ago, so I wonder where that is...) But after my local store got renovated, all the keys are now put together in one display.

Some of the keys are more obviously fine than others (like, the kaleidoscope key just presents as “fine” to me, if I had to take a guess). But if you asked me which side the fleur des lis key belongs to, I really couldn’t tell you. Some of the fleur keys look much more ornate than others. And fleur des lis now has its own collection that’s a separate entity from the keys. I could see it being fashion or fine.

Eh, anyways, my SA tells me that Tiffany is moving away from the fine/fashion distinction with the new store concept. Now, it’s all about integration, because customers apparently don’t separate Tiffany fine and fashion jewelry from each other when making their purchases. Not sure what this means regarding the accent stones, however. Will Tiffany standardize all accent stones to be D—G? Or will there still be G—J diamonds being used for ”lower-end” pieces?

I have a hard time believing that the opposite event would take place, like Tiffany lowering the color grade for Schlumberger pieces — especially given that LVMH is trying to make Schlumberger the flagship designer line.

Oh, also, apparently, Tiffany used to not use I color stones at all. There was a lot of backlash from veteran SAs when Tiffany began implementing I as a color option for engagement rings. The sales associates were like, “What is the company thinking?” But that’s what the market wanted at the time, and it turned out to not be met with as much public criticism as the SAs feared. A lesson in customer indifference, I suppose. *Shrug*
 
I for one would be interested in a primer on the distinctions between lines. Appreciate your insights!
From my understanding- although it isn’t the rule and may have changed since the LV takeover- that the pieces found in the silver/lower end section would more likely be the lower end stones. I don’t know where the T line falls in this breakdown because I have seen the same diamond pieces in both sections of the store. I also know that they use to try to stay away from J stones in designer gold/platinum pieces - Peretti, Picasso- but I can’t say if they still do. You really need to ask when you go to the store. Unfortunately the website doesn’t usually list the color information.
 
From my understanding- although it isn’t the rule and may have changed since the LV takeover- that the pieces found in the silver/lower end section would more likely be the lower end stones. I don’t know where the T line falls in this breakdown because I have seen the same diamond pieces in both sections of the store. I also know that they use to try to stay away from J stones in designer gold/platinum pieces - Peretti, Picasso- but I can’t say if they still do. You really need to ask when you go to the store. Unfortunately the website doesn’t usually list the color information.
Thanks! That’s helpful. I’ll be sure to ask my SA. It’s otherwise overwhelming in there because everything looks so sparkly under the lights :shocked:
 
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