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One of the reasons I joined this site was to share my negative experience and to warn other members, which I thought would be welcomed rather than rejected.

As I said before, I always bought scarves directly from shops and since starting to buy vintage designs online a few months ago, I was able to collect a few very nice ole designs. But out of the nine I purchased so far, to my surprise, 2 turned out to be super A-level fakes. One vendor profusely apologized, but this particular one was adamant. Thus my battle with them.

I have nothing at stake since I got my money back from the vendor. But it's the principle that matters. I want to prevent fakes from being sold online. However, it seems like from the hierarchical bullying attitude here, this principal becomes secondary to the egos of the established experts here. Why should I apologize for having a different opinion? Something is amiss here.

"The person you mentioned is one of our most respected members here and I trust her expertise on Hermes scarves, and you call her a fraud? I believe that you owe her and this forum an apology."

Wow, this is truly fascism at its worst. Please go an read on what Fascism is and you'll see how the culture established here is precisely that. When objectivity is quelled by arbitrary rules of a community and thus no logic is acceptable, and people blindly obey to hierarchy, then this is fascism. Remember how the Holocaust systematically occurred! But what's the point of trying to educate you. Surferchick did in fact authenticate a fake item (or course not all, but a few that I could even tell), which annoyed me. This is another reason why I wanted to join this site so I could help out others, but who would listen to me. I am in NO position to authenticate, right? Anyway, good luck!

You can use the words bullying and fascism as much as you want but it doesn't make it so.

Please research the definition of fascism.

Rules are not bullying.

Opinions are not fascism or bullying.

Comparing your experience to how the Holocaust happened is actually offensive.
 
One of the reasons I joined this site was to share my negative experience and to warn other members, which I thought would be welcomed rather than rejected.

As I said before, I always bought scarves directly from shops and since starting to buy vintage designs online a few months ago, I was able to collect a few very nice ole designs. But out of the nine I purchased so far, to my surprise, 2 turned out to be super A-level fakes. One vendor profusely apologized, but this particular one was adamant. Thus my battle with them.

I have nothing at stake since I got my money back from the vendor. But it's the principle that matters. I want to prevent fakes from being sold online. However, it seems like from the hierarchical bullying attitude here, this principal becomes secondary to the egos of the established experts here. Why should I apologize for having a different opinion? Something is amiss here.

"The person you mentioned is one of our most respected members here and I trust her expertise on Hermes scarves, and you call her a fraud? I believe that you owe her and this forum an apology."

Wow, this is truly fascism at its worst. Please go an read on what Fascism is and you'll see how the culture established here is precisely that. When objectivity is quelled by arbitrary rules of a community and thus no logic is acceptable, and people blindly obey to hierarchy, then this is fascism. Remember how the Holocaust systematically occurred! But what's the point of trying to educate you. Surferchick did in fact authenticate a few fake items which I could even tell. Is she a certified expert in Hermes scarves and thus invincible? Am I witnessing Idol-worship here? This is another reason why I wanted to join this site so I could pitch in my 2 cents, but who would listen to me. I am in NO position to authenticate, right? Anyway, good luck!


I'm sorry you believe our authenticators did not make a correct determination for you. It continues to be impossible to hold your position credible without any appropriate facts or knowing your skills. If you or anyone feels an incorrect determination is made, you or they are welcome to report those posts.


While we accept your opinion about the forum, even if we do not agree, we do not allow members to attack one another. You will find that many here are in fact protective of those who contribute so much of their time and skills to strangers in need every day out of the kindness of their hearts.


If this community and its authenticators are not up to par in your opinion, you are welcome to use any other you deem trustworthy.
 
You can use the words bullying and fascism as much as you want but it doesn't make it so.



Please research the definition of fascism.



Rules are not bullying.



Opinions are not fascism or bullying.



Comparing your experience to how the Holocaust happened is actually offensive.


+1 ...... Holocaust? Seriously?
 
If you are a good authenticator, why did you buy that scarf in the first place?

Did you make a mistake? Why are you calling people out if you made a mistake?

I have been on this forum for years, I was a part of this forum since the first year it was established. I point blankly will not trust someone who just comes in with 30 posts (arbitrary number) to authenticate items. If I saw your deleted thread that a new member bought a Hermes scarf and it was fake I wouldn't go to you immediately after this for authentication. For all I know you could be scamming the forum.

No where in the forum does it say that the authenticators word is law. They distinctly say that this is their own opinion, take it with a grain of salt and feel free to authenticate it externally as well.

It's not fascism. Please do your research, there are rules, abide by them or start your own forum with your own rules.

Luckily for you the moderators and founders of this forum are very nice and welcoming, even in the face of blatant disrespect. Enjoy the forum.
 
I'm sorry you believe our authenticators did not make a correct determination for you. It continues to be impossible to hold your position credible without any appropriate facts or knowing your skills. If you or anyone feels an incorrect determination is made, you or they are welcome to report those posts.


While we accept your opinion about the forum, even if we do not agree, we do not allow members to attack one another. You will find that many here are in fact protective of those who contribute so much of their time and skills to strangers in need every day out of the kindness of their hearts.


If this community and its authenticators are not up to par in your opinion, you are welcome to use any other you deem trustworthy.
I never attacked anybody inside this forum. Only had to explain myself after members brought in a quote I made on another site.
 
You can use the words bullying and fascism as much as you want but it doesn't make it so.

Please research the definition of fascism.

Rules are not bullying.

Opinions are not fascism or bullying.

Comparing your experience to how the Holocaust happened is actually offensive.
No, the forum may not be fascist but certain members using the rules to bully against others can create a fascist environment.
 
If you are a good authenticator, why did you buy that scarf in the first place?

Did you make a mistake? Why are you calling people out if you made a mistake?

I have been on this forum for years, I was a part of this forum since the first year it was established. I point blankly will not trust someone who just comes in with 30 posts (arbitrary number) to authenticate items. If I saw your deleted thread that a new member bought a Hermes scarf and it was fake I wouldn't go to you immediately after this for authentication. For all I know you could be scamming the forum.

No where in the forum does it say that the authenticators word is law. They distinctly say that this is their own opinion, take it with a grain of salt and feel free to authenticate it externally as well.

It's not fascism. Please do your research, there are rules, abide by them or start your own forum with your own rules.

Luckily for you the moderators and founders of this forum are very nice and welcoming, even in the face of blatant disrespect. Enjoy the forum.
I accidentally bought it cause I never thought that Japanese would sell fake items. Perhaps a stereotype on my part? Also, the pic the seller posted had an Hermes Japan card on top of the box which covered the fake box logo. Since I wasn't familiar with what Hermes shops in Japan included, I thought it was a legitimate card, until I actually bought a scarf at an Hermes store in Tokyo recenlty. They don't include a card and never had. This might be helpful information for members.
 
Not really. Depending on who's saying it.

Comparing your perception that you bought a fake scarf or people discoursing politely with you about it to the Holocaust and thinking it's funny is the circumstance. And as someone who lost family members to the Holocaust, or for anyone who lost family members or friends in a similar more contemporary circumstance, I can tell you it is unbelievable offensive and bears no relation to a Holocaust of any kind.

Shame on you.
 
Comparing your perception that you bought a fake scarf or people discoursing politely with you about it to the Holocaust and thinking it's funny is the circumstance. And as someone who lost family members to the Holocaust, or for anyone who lost family members or friends in a similar more contemporary circumstance, I can tell you it is unbelievable offensive and bears no relation to a Holocaust of any kind.

Shame on you.
People were not discoursing politely. I was the one responding politely (and still am). As a Jewish person, then you should know better than anybody else how Fascism works. The technology of fascism is carried out by every level of society down to the individual, not only by the state. Do you think that the German State would have been able to commit the Holocaust without the people supporting it? Members ganging up against a person on behalf of the "experts" here is precisely how fascism works. Authorities don't even need to move their fingers. Power mobilizes and controls minds of people so they do the dirty work on behalf of the system. Don't forget that's precisely how the Jewish were considered inferior--by the scientific "experts" that claimed the biological superiority of the Arian race and the people who blindly believed in their authority. Shame on you that you forgot about your own history.

And if you don't get my sarcasm, then you aren't a real Jew
 
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People were not discoursing politely. I was the one responding politely (and still am). As a Jewish person, then you should know better than anybody else how Fascism works. The technology of fascism is carried out by every level of society down to the individual, not only by the state. Do you think that the German State would have been able to commit the Holocaust without the people supporting it? Members ganging up against a person on behalf of the "experts" here is precisely how fascism works. Authorities don't even need to move their fingers. Power mobilizes and controls minds of people so they do the dirty work on behalf of the system. Don't forget that's precisely how the Jewish were considered inferior--by the scientific "experts" that claimed the biological superiority of the Arian race and the people who blindly believed in their authority. Shame on you that you forgot about your own history.

And if you don't get my sarcasm, then you aren't a real Jew

I'm done responding to your increasingly offensive posts. One last comment: stop waving around words like bullying and fascism that don't apply just to create an (ineffectual) smoke screen for your own poor behaviour. And no, that's not bullying, a word that is tossed around all too frequently when someone disagrees and the person being disagreed with either doesn't like or understand it.

And thanks, but please don't presume to tell me what a Jew should or shouldn't be or should or shouldn't understand.
 
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