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I kindly request that all members participating in the MM and Harry thread dial back the vile rhetoric.

I am not opposed to discussing public personas on TPF, including the constant torrent of news surrounding the couple from this thread. But I find it troubling when their looks are being nitpicked apart to a degree that is just not appropriate.

This thread has drawn criticism over the years, and I discussed it at great length with Megs and the mods. I am not looking to close it down, but the vitriol needs to be dialed back.

My personal feelings about hate threads aside, this ultra-negative vibe is something better suited for other forums, Reddit, or elsewhere. I am holding our community to higher standards.

Thanks for reading.
 
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If Prince Andrew is almost unemployable due to his past issues, and yes I am being polite, and he can't come up with the money to keep the Lodge up, then perhaps Frog Cot will be something for him. What a blow to the ego though! On the plus side, he would still be a Windsor and would receive his protection and he could still go riding everyday. Riding is the one enjoyment the man has outside of his children and grandchildren. Fergie has never been lazy and appears to be trying as hard as she can to keep up an income stream. If she did well, they might be able to keep the Lodge, and perhaps more of a chance for them to remarry.

In light of all of this, it is easy to see why Prince Andrew would like to clear his name. He needs a job.
 
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gracekelly said:
If Prince Andrew is almost unemployable due to his past issues, and yes I am being polite, and he can't come up with the money to keep the Lodge up, then perhaps Frog Cot will be something for him. What a blow to the ego though! On the plus side, he would still be a Windsor and would receive his protection and he could still go riding everyday. Riding is the one enjoyment the man has outside of his children and grandchildren. Fergie has never been lazy and appears to be trying as hard as she can to keep up an income stream. If she did well, they might be able to keep the Lodge, and perhaps more of a chance for them to remarry.

In light of all of this, it is easy to see why Prince Andrew would like to clear his name. He needs a job.
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Maybe Edo could help? Sarah still lives with Andi, so she would move to FrogCott too, right?
 
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tiktok said:
It doesn’t matter how Charles thinks about it. The public perception could be that Andrew’s deeds are more forgivable than Harry’s from Charles’ perspective, which isn’t great optics. It’s a PR game, not a facts game.
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I think your point is well taken. Harry is viewed as having committed treason against the monarchy and his country. The military is not to pleased with him either. Prince Andrew, on the other hand, had a zipper problem. Treason will get you shot, and a zipper problem won't kill you.

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Maybe Edo could help? Sarah still lives with Andi, so she would move to FrogCott too, right?
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I would think so. I think that in a year or two they will remarry.
 
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gracekelly said:
I think your point is well taken. Harry is viewed as having committed treason against the monarchy and his country. The military is not to pleased with him either. Prince Andrew, on the other hand, had a zipper problem. Treason will get you shot, and a zipper problem won't kill you.
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Some would argue it was more than a zipper problem if underaged girls were involved.
 
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Some would argue it was more than a zipper problem if underaged girls were involved.
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The definition of underage varies depending upon the country. By UK standards they were not. By US standards, technically they might have been, but old enough to know what they were doing. I'm going to leave it right there.
 
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gracekelly said:
If Prince Andrew is almost unemployable due to his past issues, and yes I am being polite, and he can't come up with the money to keep the Lodge up, then perhaps Frog Cot will be something for him. What a blow to the ego though! On the plus side, he would still be a Windsor and would receive his protection and he could still go riding everyday. Riding is the one enjoyment the man has outside of his children and grandchildren. Fergie has never been lazy and appears to be trying as hard as she can to keep up an income stream. If she did well, they might be able to keep the Lodge, and perhaps more of a chance for them to remarry.

In light of all of this, it is easy to see why Prince Andrew would like to clear his name. He needs a job.
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Would Charles offer to pay out the remaining term of the lease / costs that Andrew had? I can’t see PA agreeing. His sense of entitlement far exceeds Harry and he won’t want to downgrade accomodations unless he sees $$$$$
 
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sdkitty said:
agree...now that she has achieved household name status she will do whatever she can to retain it
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My unpopular opinion - she was not, is not, will never be the main draw. As far as Haz was concerned, she was a means to an end. Haz [with Diana’s son fame and son of the King], he is the draw. For most royal men, the woman is there to serve him and his needs. It is the original male dominated family. Yes, the idea is old fashioned, anachronistic and disliked by most women, but that is what she signed on for.
 
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www.dailymail.co.uk

King Charles is 'evicting Harry and Meghan from Frogmore Cottage'

Buckingham Palace issued an eviction notice to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex days after the release of Harry's sensational memoir Spare in early January, it has been claimed
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Holy Smokes! Big headline on the DM! He is throwing them out and I don't think they will be invited either. Pops is mad! They would literally have to mooch off of someone or stay at a hotel and I don't think that they would do that. It also means that Harry would have to pay for his own security if not staying on Windsor grounds.

Since Frog Cot is a "stone's throw" from Adelaide Cottage, it is very possible that William doesn't want to see them there either.
 
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Always wondered about this pic. Like whose hair flies out like this without a fan artfully placed?
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Was there a charm offensive? If so, it was stupid to browbeat Charlotte at her wedding
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It was probably that grey period when she had already gotten the spare under her thumb, but thought she had a good chance to wrest control of the heir too. In her mind, she was already formulating her gloating brag to Kate: "I think we both know I'm going to be replacing you soon".
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How did DM miss this one? :amazed::amazed::amazed:

It is believed the couple — parents to Archie, three, and 18-month-old Lilibet — have not been offered an alternative UK home.

Harry is already said to have requested items including an ornate ottoman bench and a chaise longue to be sent to California.

Astonishingly, Prince Andrew, 63, who has been stripped of his royal titles in disgrace, was last week offered their cottage as his new home by the Palace.

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OMG they are abandoning the IKEA stuff and the sofa!
 
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CarryOn2020 said:
My unpopular opinion - she was not, is not, will never be the main draw. As far as Haz was concerned, she was a means to an end. Haz [with Diana’s son fame and son of the King], he is the draw. For most royal men, the woman is there to serve him and his needs. It is the original male dominated family. Yes, the idea is old fashioned, anachronistic and disliked by most women, but that is what she signed on for.
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Absolutely right! Harold was always the draw. He is the one with the title. She is nothing. If Princess Michael of Kent could have used her name instead of her husband's name to draw people to her lectures and buy her books, she would have, but his name was bigger than just plain old Christine.
 
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