Pope Benedict XVI Passes Away

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#18
Chanbal said:
I'm not defending Benedict, he doesn't need that. However, he was virtually a kid when he was forced to join the H*tler Youth and then the German antiaircraft corps, which he ended up deserting. It is my understanding that his family opposed the Naz*s.
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Traminer said:
What has that got to do with Joseph Ratzinger?
It seems you do not know what you are talking about.
This is the last time I answer to you.
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Please do yourself a favor and block people who have opposite views.
 
#19
What we know about the funeral:

The Holy See has a procedure regarding what unfolds during and after the death and funeral of a Pope; however, these plans are specifically geared to the deaths of incumbent Popes.[30] Due to the lack of precedent, the procedure for Pope Benedict's death is not known to the public, with the Holy See initially stating that it will disclose funeral plans in the few hours following his death, and that his body would lie in state at St. Peter's Basilica on 2 January 2023.[3] Press Office director Matteo Bruni stated that the funeral will occur on 5 January, with Pope Francis presiding.[3][31] The governments of Germany and Italy are the only ones invited to send official delegations.[32]

On 31 December, the Holy See announced that Pope Benedict XVI's remains would be buried in a crypt below St. Peter's Basilica
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Death and state funeral of Pope Benedict XVI - Wikipedia

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#21
limom said:
Please do yourself a favor and block people who have opposite views.
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Why would I do that? I'm always in favor of healthy and cordial interactions. I consider myself to be open minded, and I enjoy learning from different perspectives. No one is perfect, but I respect the ones that at least try to improve themselves. Have a great 2023.
 
#22
maris.crane said:
He wasn’t exactly forthcoming in calling out or properly punishing priests as abuse scandals have come out.
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That is so.

But that has nothing to do with the topic of the Hitler Youth.
One should not mix up these topics.
I do not understand why this is not understood.
Why do you post your true line as an answer to the Hitler Youth topic?
 
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Traminer said:
That is so.

But that has nothing to do with the topic of the Hitler Youth.
One should not mix up these topics.
I do not understand why this is not understood.
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Because some posters are not going to pretend this man was some great human and this is a great loss to the world. Whether it be for things he did in his childhood or as an adult. You can’t convince me his lack of action (or milquetoast actions as pope) haven’t re-victimized survivors of abuse by Catholic clergy.

And on the WWII note: Pope JPII helped in the resistance.
 
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No sympathy here. This church takes no responsibility for the abuse of children nor the destruction of indigenous peoples culture by stealing children, committing heinous crimes, beating, abusing and killing thousands. All for monetary gain, stealing of lands and their claim of progression of religion. They claim to have no money to pay the millions won in lawsuits yet the institution has billions. His repent is only hollow words.
 
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maris.crane said:
Because some posters are not going to pretend this man was some great human and this is a great loss to the world. Whether it be for things he did in his childhood or as an adult.

Pope JPII helped in the resistance.
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I recall to have been surprised by the choice of pope at the time. He was very controversial, but I know very little about him. To be honest, I forgot about him. Popes and other religious figures are humans, and humans have flaws. Religion in general is a complicated matter…

"He never sanctioned any bishop who covered up for abusers, and he never mandated abuse cases be reported to police.

But Benedict did more than any of his predecessors combined, and especially more than John Paul, under whose watch the wrongdoing exploded publicly."

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While blamed, Benedict fought sex abuse more than past popes

Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI rarely got credit for having turned the Vatican around on clergy sexual abuse, but as cardinal and pope, he pushed through revolutionary changes to church law to make it easier to defrock predator priests.
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maris.crane said:
Because some posters are not going to pretend this man was some great human and this is a great loss to the world. Whether it be for things he did in his childhood or as an adult. You can’t convince me his lack of action (or milquetoast actions as pope) haven’t re-victimized survivors of abuse by Catholic clergy.

And on the WWII note: Pope JPII helped in the resistance.
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And lest not forget John XXIII
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Remembering Pope John XXIII, a true friend of the Jews – opinion

The young generations should be aware of the goodness of this great man.
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pukasonqo said:
And lest not forget John XXIII
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Remembering Pope John XXIII, a true friend of the Jews – opinion

The young generations should be aware of the goodness of this great man.
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I have always heard horror stories about Pious . He actively collaborated.
Pope John appears like he deserves to get the title of “righteous ”. If he would have been caught, he would have faced the ultimate punishment.
To get back to Joseph, imo his entire life he made the wrong decisions.
 
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