Podium Master Thread

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This thread is the Podium Master Thread for you to discuss intel on product offerings at the Podium event.

For reference, here's a brief primer on Podium Order (PO) vs Special Order (SO):

Podium Order

i thought pos aren't really an "order" yet, until it is approved by paris, hence they can only "cancel" it after the order has been placed by the sm (not the client).

According to my sas, whom have explained the whole podium process with me quite clearly. (things can differ a little from country to country, but i think the general picture is the same)

1) regular clients submit/express their "wishlist" to the sms before they go off to paris at each podium. But you don't have to do it in jan/jun, you can tell them i really want x anytime, say in march (just after the feb podium), and the sm will just have to note it down, and then order it at the next podium (july), so the wait to see whether this order has been approved is, of course, a lot longer than say, if you have told the sm in jan. At this point, this is still a "wishlist", not an "order". I know people like to say that "i am going to order this and that", but bare in mind, nothing is an "order" until paris has approved it, before then, it is still your "wishlist".

2)the sms take this wishlist to the podium with them, and see what's availabld to order, then match this with the wishlist and submit their orders for the next season. (feb for aw, july for ss)

3) once these orders have been approved by paris, they will become an "ordered book/list", which are all the items that the store will/should receive for the entire coming season. Hence, everything on this list is "approved", so if your item appears on this list, then it is now an order. So your sm will be able to tell you whether the item you have asked for has been approved or not at this stage.

4)as you can see, this order list is for next season, so there is at least a 6month wait for whatever you've ordered. Some people said they've only waited a month after they have submitted their "order", but to my understanding, it is not the item that the sm has ordered for this client at this particular podium, it is merely an item from the current or past season, which hasn't been spoken for, and has just arrived and happened to match the client's "wishlist", hence, was offered to this client, so she didn't have to wait for the one which the sm has ordered for next season to arrive.

5)sometimes, things that the sms have ordered just never arrive at the store for no reason, some are actively canceled by paris, some are delayed for more than 2 seasons.(aka pending orders from previous seasons) so i guess, you can call all these scenarios as an order being canceled by paris.

6) clients are generally told that pos take 6months ~2 years to arrive, because the order can be delayed for many seasons, but most of the stock should arrive within the next season

7) special order is a totaly different route, and hence whatever i have written does not apply to sos.

8) every country has a different policy for their "waitinglist" or "list" (however you want to call it)

a) some store let a very small amount of client to choose from their ordered stock list for the coming season, (but you can only choose from certain colours/leather/size/hw) so the chance of getting what you have chosen is very high.

B)some stores from time to time ask their clients what they want, and keeps a list of client name with their "wishes", and may use this as their guide at each podium, but you can submit your wishlist in ss11, but sm might not have ordered it till ss12, so you dont' know how long you'll wait for this item. Not everyone can go on this list.

C)some stores (like taiwan) let everyone put their wishlist down, you don't have to be a regular client to submit your wishlist. It is a merely a record of clients who wants b/ks. They don't use it to make orders at the podium, it is not an order list, not a waitinglist, it does not mean you will get this item for sure, it is just a client list, just in case one day a vip turns down a bag that the sm has ordered for her, the sas will then go to this list, and call those who also wanted the same bag.

9) can you change your order once it has been placed at the podium? I am not 100% sure about this, but my guess is no, once it is ordered by the sm and once the sm has left paris, it can't be changed. But if you are lucky, if there's something else that matches your criteria in the same poidum ordered list, and hasn't been spoken for, then the sm might offer that bag to you, or if you are a vip, they will re-order it for you at the next podium.

Ok, keep in mind, this might not apply to all stores and even whatever the sm has ordered, might be altered by paris without prior notice. (ie changing the hw, or the size or the leather etc)

Special Order


I have explianed previously how POs worked; Now I will explain how the current SO works in my country:

SMs are informed the number of b/k they are allocated for next season at each podium. Say a store has 50 b/k, it is up to the SM how many b/k she/he wants to order at the podium. For example 40 was ordered, then the store has 10 quota available for SOs. Which is why SOs are usually ordered after the SMs have returned from Paris. They are also not allowed to order anything "regular" through SOs now, ie if it was available to order at the podium, then such bag should only be ordered at the podium and not hogging up another SO quota. Appeareantly this rule is quite recent.

As we all know, since last year, Hermes introduced this SO online system, which allows SA to submit their applications online and it also tells us what can be ordered. (ie, if it was not an option on that system, then it is not available to order) This system puts a limit on many criterias, so we are not as free as we were in the past to order whatever we want. If you want to order something even more special, then it is customised order, which is so rare that each store only gets 1 quota per season or year (can't remember sorry)

Unlike in the past, you can have many options to play around with the bag in different colours. Now you only have 5 options.

1) single colour in a SO only colour/leather

2)Bi-colour:
a) Exterior in one colour, and lining/piping in another colour (if contrast piping is requested, it has to go with the lining colour. No contrast in piping is accepted)
b) Exterior in one colour, and lining, straps, handles, piping in another colour
c) Exterior in two colours (3 sides/ colour) and lining, straps, handels, piping is the same as the sides.

3)tri-colour:
Exterior in three colours, (2 sides/colour) and lining, straps, handels, piping is the same as the sides.


So, we can no longer get a tri colour in exterior in one colour, straps handles in one and lining in another.

You can still choose the hardwares and the stitching. But again they have a list of available colours for stitching should you want to choose another colour other than the default stitching.

They also removed the option of exotics from SO (as of late 2011). So we will see less and less of tri and bi colours exotics now (I am not sure how these can be ordered now, I didn't ask)

Box was also not on that list (as of late 2011), so box can only be ordered at the podium.

Chevre is only available up to size 30 for Birkin.

The SAs have a list of available colours/leathers, so you can only pick from that list, anything that's not on the list can't be ordered.

You can mix and match any colour as long as they are on the list.

The system will give you an instant approval and also give you a not so accurate ETA date.

However Paris can still cancel it BUT they don't generally do so. So once you are on the sytem, you are quite safe.

What I have just typed doesn't apply to anything that was not ordered through that SO system.

(As of late 2011) The wait is also much much shorter than the past, both of my SOs which were ordered through this sytem, arrived within a year, one of them only took less than 7 months.


Here's an explanation of Podium vs Rack.
 
5. all leather silky city, rather chic and simple
Sharing a pic of the all leather Silky City that @Angelian found and posted here.
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Let me jumped ahead to FW2019 flash news:
1. Kelly danse defintely making a comeback, it'll be Kelly danse II, maybe they changed up some details at the back of the bag to make it hang nicer
2. New bag Besace, a saddle bag type of shape size 23cm, with a flap and back pocket expose to outside for easy access
3. they will be making a vintage velour mixed leather pieces, corduroy like velour on constance and roulis.........hmmmmm
4. felt (feutre) will be used mixing leather, comes in B35 and evelyn TPM (regular size too)
5. all leather silky city, rather chic and simple
6. kelly pocket clucthes, a weird closure at the corner of the bag, imagine a Himalaya bag (the vintage design bag not the crocodile)
7. San Ceinture, inspired by 3 stacks of books with a belt wrapped middle, you can extend the strap to make it crossbody or shoulder, not so bad looking from the photo, comes in different kinds of leather
8. San A Fermior, the bag being featured from the FW19 show, not a favorite as it's difficult to get in/out and it's really thin; can't put much stuff without being bulky
9. Electrum hardware collection, mixture of permabrass and silver palladium, so you will have a two tone effect, it's a cute idea, available in Mosaique, Cinhetic and 2002
10. glow in the dark hardware for constance and 2002 (huh?? this one is really confused me, so gimmicky)
11. flock print dragon on men's bags (very game of thrones)
12. the sister of Quelle Idole kelly is finally born, there's birkin faubourg in size 20cm! feature windows and croc roof, imagine FSH turned into a tiny birkin, strictly VIP push offer, see who the luckiest can offer this TINY bag
13. new indigo dyed croc pieces, H used ancient Japanese indigo dye to creature different shades of blue, they called Aizome collection, not much info on this but should be similar blue tones of what's being offered now, comes in Lisse and Matte croc
14. the gents have a new version of Kelly depeche, specially the kelly depeche 25 pochette, i think a lot of the ladies would go gaga on the clutch too
15. New color:
- Vert Bosphore (greyish blue/green tone) comes in veau madame and croc lisse (apparently stunning in croc)
- Deep blue, same as the name a darker true blue color (more greyish blue sapphire)
- Kraft making a come back
- Vert Rousseau, greyer than vert de gris
- barenia Ebene being offered on a few bags
Rather underwhelming FW seasons of bags, let's see how many of these items being offered at the end........

Thank you so much for sharing this! Do you have any intel on price point on the all leather silk city ? Is it BF?
 
Hi ladies, I was wondering if anyone knows if Benton will continue to be offered? I was also wondering if H will continue to offer mini Kelly in leathers other than exotic? I saw a larger Singaporean reseller saying that regular leather options for the mini Kelly may only be available for one more season? Does anyone have an intel please.
 
Hi ladies, I was wondering if anyone knows if Benton will continue to be offered? I was also wondering if H will continue to offer mini Kelly in leathers other than exotic? I saw a larger Singaporean reseller saying that regular leather options for the mini Kelly may only be available for one more season? Does anyone have an intel please.
I was told the Box calf mini Kelly II was limited and will go out of production but that new colors will be offered in chèvre and Epsom, possibly Sombrero.
 
I was told the Box calf mini Kelly II was limited and will go out of production but that new colors will be offered in chèvre and Epsom, possibly Sombrero.

Thanks so much for your intel QuelleFromage, I am never sure with resellers, are they saying stuff just to sell bags? Oooh, I love Sombrero, I would love a mini in Sombrero. I would also love one in box, but have no chance of receiving that from my store, I have been keeping an eye out for one on the reseller market but I want GHW and have only seen PHW.
 
Thanks so much for your intel QuelleFromage, I am never sure with resellers, are they saying stuff just to sell bags? Oooh, I love Sombrero, I would love a mini in Sombrero. I would also love one in box, but have no chance of receiving that from my store, I have been keeping an eye out for one on the reseller market but I want GHW and have only seen PHW.
I seriously won't trust a reseller too much right? What about Permabrass? There are definitely Minis coming in that.
 
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