Podium Master Thread

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This thread is the Podium Master Thread for you to discuss intel on product offerings at the Podium event.

For reference, here's a brief primer on Podium Order (PO) vs Special Order (SO):

Podium Order

i thought pos aren't really an "order" yet, until it is approved by paris, hence they can only "cancel" it after the order has been placed by the sm (not the client).

According to my sas, whom have explained the whole podium process with me quite clearly. (things can differ a little from country to country, but i think the general picture is the same)

1) regular clients submit/express their "wishlist" to the sms before they go off to paris at each podium. But you don't have to do it in jan/jun, you can tell them i really want x anytime, say in march (just after the feb podium), and the sm will just have to note it down, and then order it at the next podium (july), so the wait to see whether this order has been approved is, of course, a lot longer than say, if you have told the sm in jan. At this point, this is still a "wishlist", not an "order". I know people like to say that "i am going to order this and that", but bare in mind, nothing is an "order" until paris has approved it, before then, it is still your "wishlist".

2)the sms take this wishlist to the podium with them, and see what's availabld to order, then match this with the wishlist and submit their orders for the next season. (feb for aw, july for ss)

3) once these orders have been approved by paris, they will become an "ordered book/list", which are all the items that the store will/should receive for the entire coming season. Hence, everything on this list is "approved", so if your item appears on this list, then it is now an order. So your sm will be able to tell you whether the item you have asked for has been approved or not at this stage.

4)as you can see, this order list is for next season, so there is at least a 6month wait for whatever you've ordered. Some people said they've only waited a month after they have submitted their "order", but to my understanding, it is not the item that the sm has ordered for this client at this particular podium, it is merely an item from the current or past season, which hasn't been spoken for, and has just arrived and happened to match the client's "wishlist", hence, was offered to this client, so she didn't have to wait for the one which the sm has ordered for next season to arrive.

5)sometimes, things that the sms have ordered just never arrive at the store for no reason, some are actively canceled by paris, some are delayed for more than 2 seasons.(aka pending orders from previous seasons) so i guess, you can call all these scenarios as an order being canceled by paris.

6) clients are generally told that pos take 6months ~2 years to arrive, because the order can be delayed for many seasons, but most of the stock should arrive within the next season

7) special order is a totaly different route, and hence whatever i have written does not apply to sos.

8) every country has a different policy for their "waitinglist" or "list" (however you want to call it)

a) some store let a very small amount of client to choose from their ordered stock list for the coming season, (but you can only choose from certain colours/leather/size/hw) so the chance of getting what you have chosen is very high.

B)some stores from time to time ask their clients what they want, and keeps a list of client name with their "wishes", and may use this as their guide at each podium, but you can submit your wishlist in ss11, but sm might not have ordered it till ss12, so you dont' know how long you'll wait for this item. Not everyone can go on this list.

C)some stores (like taiwan) let everyone put their wishlist down, you don't have to be a regular client to submit your wishlist. It is a merely a record of clients who wants b/ks. They don't use it to make orders at the podium, it is not an order list, not a waitinglist, it does not mean you will get this item for sure, it is just a client list, just in case one day a vip turns down a bag that the sm has ordered for her, the sas will then go to this list, and call those who also wanted the same bag.

9) can you change your order once it has been placed at the podium? I am not 100% sure about this, but my guess is no, once it is ordered by the sm and once the sm has left paris, it can't be changed. But if you are lucky, if there's something else that matches your criteria in the same poidum ordered list, and hasn't been spoken for, then the sm might offer that bag to you, or if you are a vip, they will re-order it for you at the next podium.

Ok, keep in mind, this might not apply to all stores and even whatever the sm has ordered, might be altered by paris without prior notice. (ie changing the hw, or the size or the leather etc)

Special Order


I have explianed previously how POs worked; Now I will explain how the current SO works in my country:

SMs are informed the number of b/k they are allocated for next season at each podium. Say a store has 50 b/k, it is up to the SM how many b/k she/he wants to order at the podium. For example 40 was ordered, then the store has 10 quota available for SOs. Which is why SOs are usually ordered after the SMs have returned from Paris. They are also not allowed to order anything "regular" through SOs now, ie if it was available to order at the podium, then such bag should only be ordered at the podium and not hogging up another SO quota. Appeareantly this rule is quite recent.

As we all know, since last year, Hermes introduced this SO online system, which allows SA to submit their applications online and it also tells us what can be ordered. (ie, if it was not an option on that system, then it is not available to order) This system puts a limit on many criterias, so we are not as free as we were in the past to order whatever we want. If you want to order something even more special, then it is customised order, which is so rare that each store only gets 1 quota per season or year (can't remember sorry)

Unlike in the past, you can have many options to play around with the bag in different colours. Now you only have 5 options.

1) single colour in a SO only colour/leather

2)Bi-colour:
a) Exterior in one colour, and lining/piping in another colour (if contrast piping is requested, it has to go with the lining colour. No contrast in piping is accepted)
b) Exterior in one colour, and lining, straps, handles, piping in another colour
c) Exterior in two colours (3 sides/ colour) and lining, straps, handels, piping is the same as the sides.

3)tri-colour:
Exterior in three colours, (2 sides/colour) and lining, straps, handels, piping is the same as the sides.


So, we can no longer get a tri colour in exterior in one colour, straps handles in one and lining in another.

You can still choose the hardwares and the stitching. But again they have a list of available colours for stitching should you want to choose another colour other than the default stitching.

They also removed the option of exotics from SO (as of late 2011). So we will see less and less of tri and bi colours exotics now (I am not sure how these can be ordered now, I didn't ask)

Box was also not on that list (as of late 2011), so box can only be ordered at the podium.

Chevre is only available up to size 30 for Birkin.

The SAs have a list of available colours/leathers, so you can only pick from that list, anything that's not on the list can't be ordered.

You can mix and match any colour as long as they are on the list.

The system will give you an instant approval and also give you a not so accurate ETA date.

However Paris can still cancel it BUT they don't generally do so. So once you are on the sytem, you are quite safe.

What I have just typed doesn't apply to anything that was not ordered through that SO system.

(As of late 2011) The wait is also much much shorter than the past, both of my SOs which were ordered through this sytem, arrived within a year, one of them only took less than 7 months.


Here's an explanation of Podium vs Rack.
 
I heard that there not a new gray for FW15.


Two pics of Bleu Atoll epsom Orans that just arrived, one with turquoise earrings. I'd call the color light aqua...
Pierina, these orans are just the perfect summer shade!
I was happy to see that the increase was not so bad on shoes, can't say the same for the Kelly...

Do you know which grays are available for AW15?
 
pierina, twins with your Mors Remix CSGM and your new bleu atoll Orans are gorgeous! :cloud9:

Thank you Vigee!

Pierina, these orans are just the perfect summer shade!
I was happy to see that the increase was not so bad on shoes, can't say the same for the Kelly...

Do you know which grays are available for AW15?

And since I'm in FL all winter I can wear them 80% of the time. ;) Or I could if there weren't so many other ones in the closet. :D

What was in the increase on the Kelly? Atoll is a multiple bag color for me....

So sorry, I don't have any other color info other than that there isn't a new gray. Wish they'd bring graphite back.
 
Thank you Vigee!



And since I'm in FL all winter I can wear them 80% of the time. ;) Or I could if there weren't so many other ones in the closet. :D

What was in the increase on the Kelly? Atoll is a multiple bag color for me....

So sorry, I don't have any other color info other than that there isn't a new gray. Wish they'd bring graphite back.
Well, that makes the Orans a very smart buy!
Reports on the increase thread are showing 12-18% increase on the Kelly. 12% on a 32 in togo and closer to 18% on the Ghilles. I had hoped for a more modest 4-5%, but no such luck...
So far, it appears that only the K has suffered a substantial increase. Shoes were only around 3%, and I have heard that scarves will be around 5%.
 
Thank you so much! Both gorgeous! Which color do you think is more year-round?

You're very welcome! I think the Atoll is more subtle. Lagon has more impact, is a bit more in-your-face IRL than this picture is showing, especially in togo. The pictures of Atoll Kellys for sale seem to show dark or even black resin which makes it seem a little less 'summery'. It also looks like it comes with same-color stitching. Maybe someone who has an Atoll GP already can chime in, doesn't palmbeachpink have one? (lucky her!!!) Lagon has a medium brown resin and the stitching is light aqua, so there's a bit of contrast.

My Lagon bag gets used all the time in FL but not as much in NY unless it's the middle of the summer. My guess is that I'd feel able to use the Atoll more. And it's a color which is about to be available, which helps too. Good luck with your hunting!
 
Well, that makes the Orans a very smart buy!
Reports on the increase thread are showing 12-18% increase on the Kelly. 12% on a 32 in togo and closer to 18% on the Ghilles. I had hoped for a more modest 4-5%, but no such luck...
So far, it appears that only the K has suffered a substantial increase. Shoes were only around 3%, and I have heard that scarves will be around 5%.


I hope so, Monceau, and my apologies for forgetting to thank you for the compliment earlier! I got too caught up answering the questions. :smile1: The sandals arrived just before the increase and were marked $660.00 - I think they're $680.00 now?

Wow, that is a huge increse in Kelly prices! Wonder if it will cut the demand for them at all? Bet not. ;) Sounds like you have one on the way?
 
I hope so, Monceau, and my apologies for forgetting to thank you for the compliment earlier! I got too caught up answering the questions. :smile1: The sandals arrived just before the increase and were marked $660.00 - I think they're $680.00 now?

Wow, that is a huge increse in Kelly prices! Wonder if it will cut the demand for them at all? Bet not. ;) Sounds like you have one on the way?
Yes, fingers crossed my SM will find one of my wish list items available at Podium.
This would be preferable to placing a SO, which probably would come in only after the NEXT increase!
 
I heard that there not a new gray for FW15.


Two pics of Bleu Atoll epsom Orans that just arrived, one with turquoise earrings. I'd call the color light aqua...
lovely sandals! btw one new thing they r going to make are orans of mink fur instead of leather on top, how about that for summer? dont know what H r thinking sometimes ...
 
sorry i should have posted this, but thought this thread is leather only news,
there will be printed enamal clic clack bracelets, a lot of bracelets with pink gold.
in scraves very pretty design with impressionist style painting, another one with leopard looking at the moon, forget what else but it will come back
 
sorry i should have posted this, but thought this thread is leather only news,
there will be printed enamal clic clack bracelets, a lot of bracelets with pink gold.
in scraves very pretty design with impressionist style painting, another one with leopard looking at the moon, forget what else but it will come back

I concur on leopard though I thought maybe it's a tiger? Really pretty
 
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