Please help identify leather, color and design

[Vlad]

As requested, this thread is now the official Help I.D. Hermes leather, color and design thread. Cheers!



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Edited: Please do nat ask for authentication on this thread.

Reply to any questions regarding any items are NOT be taken as a sign of authenticity. You will have to find a reputable paid-for service.

PT

 

[sinesine]

Box Calf grain can be horizontal or vertical. Often, leathers with striated graining can look severe like this when they are dry, which is interesting in this case considering how new this bag seems. Anyway, I’d recommend using a paid service for more information on this item.

That's very insightful - good to know and thank you very much!

 

[QuelleFromage]

Hello! I would appreciate a more experienced opinion in identifying the leather on this Kelly 25. Thanks in advance for your time

I think it looks like box leather, but most photos of box that I've seen seem softer. It doesn't feel plush or soft - instead it's stiff/smooth and is difficult to scratch. Most photos of box also seem to show graining(?) that runs horizontally, or no graining at all. This bag has graining that runs vertically. After searching every thread on box leather, I did find two posts with clear photos of vertical box leather (post 1 and post 2) but it seems relatively rare and I'm not sure if this bag is vertical box or something else. I wondered if it might be one of the chevres but the grain doesn't seem pronounced enough and the sheen doesn't seem quite right.

Would anyone have a better idea of what leather this is? Thank you very much!

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This is Box calf.
I would consult a paid authentication service for further details on the bag.

 

[Virevolte]

The omnibus bag predates Margiela. I’m not sure who designed it (likely Dumas Sr. or Jr.), but I’ve seen these bags being produced at least a decade prior to Margiela’s tenure at the house. Margiela did, however, help revamp this design (as well as several others) by adding canvas and other materials to the bag. Production of this bag continued into JPG’s tenure, though I don’t recall having seen it since. Omnibus is a truly rare, underrated design in my opinion.

Bumping this part of the thread because I just found a TDF rouge garance bag on the current Sotheby’s auction site, & though it’s listed there as a Victoria it looks to my eye like a more rectangular version of an Omnibus, and seems to be a little bit larger than any of the Victorias I have seen. @r luvs h , @maxroxxherhandbags , & other wise TPFer’s, what do you think? Dated 2010, it comes after the Margiela years at H. I am obsessed with the color!

 

[maxroxxherhandbags]

Bumping this part of the thread because I just found a TDF rouge garance bag on the current Sotheby’s auction site, & though it’s listed there as a Victoria it looks to my eye like a more rectangular version of an Omnibus, and seems to be a little bit larger than any of the Victorias I have seen. @r luvs h , @maxroxxherhandbags , & other wise TPFer’s, what do you think? Dated 2010, it comes after the Margiela years at H. I am obsessed with the color!

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could it be a Victoria Travel bag?
Or a Plume Travel version?
It looks in perfect condition
I hope you win it if you're bidding !

 

[annaria]

Hi all,

Could you help identify this color??

This is the info I got from the reseller

Stamp Y 1995
Sellier
Vaux chamonix

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If you are looking on the Japanese auction sites - try to see if the seller has their own stand-alone site. Often you will find MORE and larger photos in there.

 

[QuelleFromage]

Bumping this part of the thread because I just found a TDF rouge garance bag on the current Sotheby’s auction site, & though it’s listed there as a Victoria it looks to my eye like a more rectangular version of an Omnibus, and seems to be a little bit larger than any of the Victorias I have seen. @r luvs h , @maxroxxherhandbags , & other wise TPFer’s, what do you think? Dated 2010, it comes after the Margiela years at H. I am obsessed with the color!

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This bag was sold in 2013 (for $2125 with premium) as a travel Omnibus at Heritage (I had it in my files and this looked familiar). At that point the Heritage team was pretty good with Hermes, so I am inclined to accept their verdict.

 

[Virevolte]

This bag was sold in 2013 (for $2125 with premium) as a travel Omnibus at Heritage (I had it in my files and this looked familiar). At that point the Heritage team was pretty good with Hermes, so I am inclined to accept their verdict.

@QuelleFromage you are a super-sleuth!!!!! That does indeed look like the exact same bag - & given your expertise I am inclined to accept *your* verdict. Thank you so much!

 

[asatoasz]

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[asatoasz]

Yeah it looks like VN based on the clear resin.

Thank you for the help!

 

[vcc1]

Help me with this cute vintage one

 

[papertiger]

Help me with this cute vintage one View attachment 5661756

Don't know the name of the model (so so sweet ) but it looks like Rouge H Box anyway.

 

[r luvs h]

Help me with this cute vintage one View attachment 5661756

I’m quite sure this design was called the Mocassin bag. My grandmother was gifted a black one in the early 90s. As PT said, the colour and leather look like Rouge H and Box Calf, respectively.

 

[nomdesac]

Could be Havane, could be Raisin. But for this general color read, if you're looking for a bag that looks like this, I'd probably start with Havane.

I have pondered this question further (and examined pretty much every single image of every Birkin ever posted on the web), and I now think the color is prune. (I wonder if Hermes knows that "prune" is not a lovely word in English?)

 

[QuelleFromage]

I have pondered this question further (and examined pretty much every single image of every Birkin ever posted on the web), and I now think the color is prune. (I wonder if Hermes knows that "prune" is not a lovely word in English?)

I have a Prune bag and it doesn’t look at all like Prune to me, but monitor colors vary.
Prune is a lovely word in French, and is a lovely color in Hermes.

 

[textilegirl]

I have a Prune bag and it doesn’t look at all like Prune to me, but monitor colors vary.
Prune is a lovely word in French, and is a lovely color in Hermes.