I won't pay full retail for any Coach that you can find at Macy's, Dillard's, Belk, etc because you will always be able to get it at 25% off. I typically wait for those items until they hit clearance plus an additional 25-30% off as well. When it comes to the 1941 line I have bought a few at full price because I reallllly wanted them or they were for gifts but the rest I got at around 15-30% off. I bought my burgundy python tea rose rogue full price last year and I don't regret it one bit. It sold out really fast and then they restocked it months later but it is no longer python, it's a different type of snake and looks different. I prefer the softer look and feel of the python on my tea rose rogue but really love the shinier look to the snake on my heather grey rogue 36. To me, the python does feel/look my expensive than the snake.