Official MOYNAT Thread

[Cool Breeze]

My Danse PM came in! Shipping was super fast (FedEx Intl Priority). I haven't gotten the customs invoice yet, but I assume it'll be about 8% (my state's sales tax rate).

As far as the leather quality goes, it looks great. They added the piping as well as some side snaps that I don't remember being on the older model. As far as the workmanship, the stitching is as neat as ever, but I did notice some stray glazing(?) on the pointed parts of the strap. I do recall this same issue on my Rejane Perfecto though, so I'm willing to chalk this up to the nature of handmade bags than anything else.

On the cognac strap, I did notice some slight imperfections that I'm willing to let slide due to the nature of barenia leather. This is my first bag with any barenia on it, but from what I understand this is pretty normal even for brand new bags. I did put some leather protectant and sprayed it (Lovin my Bags and Cadillac Leather spray respectively) and though it's still a bit noticeable, it's not as much. The leather did darken slightly but not much at all (added a before and after and you can barely tell which is which).

From memory this bag is slightly heavier than the older nubuck PM, but otherwise still very light and holds a lot. The strap is pretty soft and comfortable out of box and doesn't require breaking in.

Other than the glazing thing, I'm very satisfied with this bag. It hasn't completely resolved my doubts about the designs going forward, but I think all the updates they made to the Danse PM made sense without detracting any functionality or looks. I added a mod shot (sorry for the outfit, I'm still in my PJ's lol) for reference.

Congratulations on a very handsome bag! Wear it in good health!

 

[optimisticqt]

As far as the workmanship, the stitching is as neat as ever, but I did notice some stray glazing(?) on the pointed parts of the strap. I do recall this same issue on my Rejane Perfecto though, so I'm willing to chalk this up to the nature of handmade bags than anything else.

Yayayay, the Danse fits you so well.

I noticed a little bit of stray glazing on the strap of my Fleur as well, which is absent from my Strap...

@ebyaya Custom duty for (pure) leather handbag over $20 is 9%. FedEx charges ~ 1% processing fee. Any import over $2,500 requires a formal entry: longer wait/more paperwork. My Econ professors should be proud of how much attention I've dedicated to understanding US tariffs.

The CBP has a pretty detailed explanation in this article.

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www.cbp.gov

 

[Alan veivre]

The minute a brands starts discounting it calls into question what the product is really worth. Say what you will about Louis Vuitton,there are no sales,no discounts,no feeling like a suckered because the bag you bought for full price is half off. They have a schizophrenic brand,where you have Nicholas Ghesquire still designing beautiful and tasteful items,excessive logos aside then you have Virgil Abloh designing crass,inelegant,garish designs for the urban male that are devoid of value or dignity. That a storied house like LV that has made items for kings,Queens and all sorts of dignitaries has to now resort to selling $900 logoed sneakers is truly appalling. Is this the direction Moynat will go. Seems like Mr Arnault is fed up with the loss making at Moynat. A shame. Our company purchases several of the purses as gifts for our fwmale executives and they were of the highest quality and taste. As a retsiling executive for over 30 years,I do know that the discounting of luxury products and the proliferation of outlet stores corp these "luxury" goods will certainly alienate the legacy customer while opening the brand to more customers who only appreciate logos and lower price points. Hermes is true luxury. Moynat was,but after these sales and the accompanied antipathy of loyal legacy customers,their status as such is now called into question

 

[Alan veivre]

The minute a brand starts discounting it calls into question what the product is really worth. Say what you will about Louis Vuitton,there are no sales,no discounts,no feeling like a sucker because the bag you bought for full price is half off. They have a schizophrenic brand,where you have Nicholas Ghesquire still designing beautiful and tasteful items,excessive logos aside, then you have Virgil Abloh designing crass,inelegant,garish designs for the urban male that are devoid of value or dignity. That a storied house like LV that has made items for Kings,Queens and all sorts of dignitaries has to now resort to selling $900 logoed sneakers is truly appalling. Is this the direction Moynat will go.? Seems like Mr Arnault is fed up with the loss making at Moynat. Our company has purchased several of the purses as gifts for our female executives and they were of the highest quality and taste. As a retailing executive for over 30 years,I do know that the discounting of luxury products and the proliferation of outlet stores will alienate the legacy customer . Hermes is true luxury. Moynat was,but after these sales and the accompanied antipathy of loyal legacy customers,their status as such is now called into question

 

[m_ichele]

My Danse PM came in! Shipping was super fast (FedEx Intl Priority). I haven't gotten the customs invoice yet, but I assume it'll be about 8% (my state's sales tax rate).

As far as the leather quality goes, it looks great. They added the piping as well as some side snaps that I don't remember being on the older model. As far as the workmanship, the stitching is as neat as ever, but I did notice some stray glazing(?) on the pointed parts of the strap. I do recall this same issue on my Rejane Perfecto though, so I'm willing to chalk this up to the nature of handmade bags than anything else.

On the cognac strap, I did notice some slight imperfections that I'm willing to let slide due to the nature of barenia leather. This is my first bag with any barenia on it, but from what I understand this is pretty normal even for brand new bags. I did put some leather protectant and sprayed it (Lovin my Bags and Cadillac Leather spray respectively) and though it's still a bit noticeable, it's not as much. The leather did darken slightly but not much at all (added a before and after and you can barely tell which is which).

From memory this bag is slightly heavier than the older nubuck PM, but otherwise still very light and holds a lot. The strap is pretty soft and comfortable out of box and doesn't require breaking in.

Other than the glazing thing, I'm very satisfied with this bag. It hasn't completely resolved my doubts about the designs going forward, but I think all the updates they made to the Danse PM made sense without detracting any functionality or looks. I added a mod shot (sorry for the outfit, I'm still in my PJ's lol) for reference.

Congratulations @konacoffee!! Danse pm looks fantastic on you!

 

[konacoffee]

Thank you all! I'm so happy to finally have it! The wait felt so long!

I understand the concerns of Moynat's discounting, and I agree it has changed things. If Moynat wanted to compete with Hermes as a status symbol, I think the recent sales have completely tanked those chances. While I am personally not bothered, it's easy to see why so many other people are. I'm really on the fence about the sale. I mean, it's hard for me to be too negative about it when I benefitted so much from it, but at the same time I can't deny it makes the brand less exclusive.

However, what drew me to the brand and has kept me here wasn't the prestige of Moynat, but having excellent design and excellent customer service. Chanel and LV have better resale value, but my experiences with both have been really inconsistent both in regards to quality and customer service.

I've been reading other people's opinions about Moynat and the new direction, and I'm not going to deny I'm a bit nervous about it as well - specifically the quality and cost cutting concerns. However, I am committed to keeping an open mind about it for now at least.

 

[ebyaya]

Yayayay, the Danse fits you so well.

I noticed a little bit of stray glazing on the strap of my Fleur as well, which is absent from my Strap...

@ebyaya Custom duty for (pure) leather handbag over $20 is 9%. FedEx charges ~ 1% processing fee. Any import over $2,500 requires a formal entry: longer wait/more paperwork. My Econ professors should be proud of how much attention I've dedicated to understanding US tariffs.

The CBP has a pretty detailed explanation in this article.

Internet Purchases

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

Thank you!

The over $2500 requirement made wonder if it's better(/easier?) to just pay for two separate shipping so it's below?

That link scared me a bit since it talked about how the process could take a while and things could get lost....

@konacoffee - your bag got here quick...so maybe it isn't that "scary"...? Btw, love the Danse! Looks good on you!
Also, thank you! I ended up getting the purple Danse. I couldn't resist....so....I got off the ban island....

 

[Mousy]

The minute a brands starts discounting it calls into question what the product is really worth. Say what you will about Louis Vuitton,there are no sales,no discounts,no feeling like a suckered because the bag you bought for full price is half off. They have a schizophrenic brand,where you have Nicholas Ghesquire still designing beautiful and tasteful items,excessive logos aside then you have Virgil Abloh designing crass,inelegant,garish designs for the urban male that are devoid of value or dignity. That a storied house like LV that has made items for kings,Queens and all sorts of dignitaries has to now resort to selling $900 logoed sneakers is truly appalling. Is this the direction Moynat will go. Seems like Mr Arnault is fed up with the loss making at Moynat. A shame. Our company purchases several of the purses as gifts for our fwmale executives and they were of the highest quality and taste. As a retsiling executive for over 30 years,I do know that the discounting of luxury products and the proliferation of outlet stores corp these "luxury" goods will certainly alienate the legacy customer while opening the brand to more customers who only appreciate logos and lower price points. Hermes is true luxury. Moynat was,but after these sales and the accompanied antipathy of loyal legacy customers,their status as such is now called into question

I’m sorry Moynat has disappointed you to this degree. I, too, am not thrilled with the sale, the change in direction (one of Arnault’s sons, not Mr. Arnault, making most of the decisions), and the new tote (as an example of what we might see in the future).

LV is one company that does not have sales. This is true. But even Chanel has sales on their clothing, shoes, and I believe, jewelry lines. The department store boutiques have points sales on their handbags. Hermès has an annual sale- shoes, handbags, and clothes. The Hermès sale is so exclusive, very few people are invited and may attend. I was invited once, but I didn’t need/want anything, so chose not to fly to the US city where it was held that year. Here’s what I believe is the difference between the Hermès sale and Moynat’s. Moynat was trying to follow Hermès lead and make their sale private, limited to seasonal colors, and have the products behind the scenes (not on store shelves). It was behind the scenes, just like Hermès’. The social media leak in the East was so massive, though their clients knew it was private, Moynat was forced to publicize their sale without notice, making it a total mess.

I repeat, I’m not happy about the sale, or the way it took place either. I suppose, if anyone is extremely bothered by the sale, Moynat is not the company for them, nor are Chanel and Hermès. After 2020, my reaction is- It was what it was, and I hope Moynat learned from it. As for Moynat’s future, like most, I’m a little nervous. But in the whole scheme of things, it’s just luxury- not some cure for disease or life changing product. I remain positive, and give the company, and Knightly, the benefit of the doubt. I wish him well.

Thank you all! I'm so happy to finally have it! The wait felt so long!

I understand the concerns of Moynat's discounting, and I agree it has changed things. If Moynat wanted to compete with Hermes as a status symbol, I think the recent sales have completely tanked those chances. While I am personally not bothered, it's easy to see why so many other people are. I'm really on the fence about the sale. I mean, it's hard for me to be too negative about it when I benefitted so much from it, but at the same time I can't deny it makes the brand less exclusive.

However, what drew me to the brand and has kept me here wasn't the prestige of Moynat, but having excellent design and excellent customer service. Chanel and LV have better resale value, but my experiences with both have been really inconsistent both in regards to quality and customer service.

I've been reading other people's opinions about Moynat and the new direction, and I'm not going to deny I'm a bit nervous about it as well - specifically the quality and cost cutting concerns. However, I am committed to keeping an open mind about it for now at least.

Congratulations and I appreciate your optimism.

 

[Mousy]

Darling mods just wanted to tell or ask if the forum can open a section for MOYNAT the classic French brand hat has been relaunched by mr. Arnault as his personal pet project I just bought a wonderful bag and wallet there the quality is supreme and many readers and Hermes and bag lover alike will profit a lot from it !!!! Please do consider it I can help with pics and reference thankyou sorry for posting here but it's all I could figure out lots of lve thanks for the great forum !!!!.birkel.

I love this! I just went back to the Moynat thread’s beginnings. The 2011+ posts are like a time capsule. Thank you for being a true Moynat O.G..

 

[Mousy]

The Rejane Nano-

Awwww ... its just an itty-bitty baby.

 

[bagnut1]

The Rejane Nano-
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Awwww ...its just an itty-bitty baby.

Why????

 

[Mousy]

Why????

Because they can?
I can’t fit my stuff in one, but I’m sure clients who don’t carry a wallet, reading glasses, tissue, wipes, phone, keys, and more, will pop in a lipstick and a credit card, then vlog about how much it holds.

 

[kipp]

^^^^ Totally agree about the Nano. I have the mini(bebe) and I love it but the design doesn't hold much. Can't imagine anything smaller, quite frankly.

 

[m_ichele]

Because they can?
I can’t fit my stuff in one, but I’m sure clients who don’t carry a wallet, reading glasses, tissue, wipes, phone, keys, and more, will pop in a lipstick and a credit card, then vlog about how much it holds.

There’s a market for these nano size bags for sure. These types of bags are adorable and fun to look at, even though they’re impractical for most people. Love the variety of colors!

 

[leechiyong]

The Rejane Nano-
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Awwww ... its just an itty-bitty baby.

I know I'm in the minority, but I've dreamt of Moynat producing a nano version of the Rejane (honestly, I still want the super tiny necklace one they put advertised, but I could never track down).

I'm tiny bag-obsessed and I've always wanted something from Moynat, but I'm hesitating. I really don't need another bag (though isn't that what we're here for?) as I just bought another one a month ago and it's not like I'm swapping them out to drive my car around the block. Debating...