Official bottega veneta chat thread - thread #4

[ksuromax]

I don't think it's worth starting up a new thread, but i am really curious to know what you, guys, think, so i will ask here in the chat
i have found myself recently defining BV as a top expensive brand i am ready to spend on, e.g. i was not doubting when i spent a certain amount on my 5th BV cervo hobo, but i was absolutely hesitant to spend lesser amount on a Balenciaga bag, both are new, both are listed in an online store, do you relate to the same thing? Ready (and easy) to part with a bigger amount of money on a BV piece (or any other brand) than any other, and why??
as another example, i was in Hermes boutique last weekend, i really like their horses bag charms, but 600-700$ price tag was a total no-no for me, when i am ready to pay a bigger amount for a BV item which i am not very sure about...

 

[grietje]

...Ready (and easy) to part with a bigger amount of money on a BV piece (or any other brand) than any other, and why??...

For me, it's that I've decided function, styling, quality and brand reputation are in alignment. There are tons of bags--or for that matter-- items-- that are less expensive--or even more expensive-- that may have one or more of those items. But the four things I value don't align as well as they do with Bottega Veneta so I'd rather spend more and get what I really want.

 

[diane278]

I don't think it's worth starting up a new thread, but i am really curious to know what you, guys, think, so i will ask here in the chat
i have found myself recently defining BV as a top expensive brand i am ready to spend on, e.g. i was not doubting when i spent a certain amount on my 5th BV cervo hobo, but i was absolutely hesitant to spend lesser amount on a Balenciaga bag, both are new, both are listed in an online store, do you relate to the same thing? Ready (and easy) to part with a bigger amount of money on a BV piece (or any other brand) than any other, and why??

For me, it's that I've decided function, styling, quality and brand reputation are in alignment. There are tons of bags--or for that matter-- items-- that are less expensive--or even more expensive-- that may have one or more of those items. But the four things I value don't align as well as they do with Bottega Veneta so I'd rather spend more and get what I really want.

I agree with everything Grietje says. In addition, it's very important to me that BV is a "subtle" brand. By that, I mean that it's "under the radar" largely because of its lack of logos. The beauty, to me, is emphasized but the fact that BV relies on it's quality and design. I never see BV where I live. When I travel, and see someone carrying it, I feel like it's belonging to a sisterhood of sorts. There seems to be a lot of us in Carmel and Palo Alto (Stanford Center). Perhaps because Carmel has a boutique and NM in Stanford Center carries them.

 

[ksuromax]

I agree with everything Grietje says. In addition, it's very important to me that BV is a "subtle" brand. By that, I mean that it's "under the radar" largely because of its lack of logos. The beauty, to me, is emphasized but the fact that BV relies on it's quality and design. I never see BV where I live. When I travel, and see someone carrying it, I feel like it's belonging to a sisterhood of sorts. There seems to be a lot of us in Carmel and Palo Alto (Stanford Center). Perhaps because Carmel has a boutique and NM in Stanford Center carries them.

+1 on sisterhood

 

[ksuromax]

I am trying to analyse my feelings, evaluation, expectation, etc
seems that BV for me is something i accept unconditionally, like true love
i do like Balenciaga, but there's a far cry between my Bal and BV loves
i am wondering, if what i feel for BV is already a grade of obsession, or it's just MY thing which i feel comfortable and confident with?

 

[grietje]

I am trying to analyse my feelings, evaluation, expectation, etc
seems that BV for me is something i accept unconditionally, like true love
i do like Balenciaga, but there's a far cry between my Bal and BV loves
i am wondering, if what i feel for BV is already a grade of obsession, or it's just MY thing which i feel comfortable and confident with?

I wouldn't over analyze though. You've discovered a brand that is resonating with your values, ideals, desires, aspirations--whatever it may be. And remember, you're evolving. What may have been important to you years ago, is perhaps not so much now. And that can even happen in a matter of months. So, with bags as an example, Balenciaga has served you well but for whatever reason, it's not clicking with you like it used to. And that's just fine.

The only thing to keep in check is the balance between external and internal motivations. Especially on tPF it's easy to get caught up in buying and building the collection or keeping up with others. Focus on what feels right to you--you are the only person that matters.

 

[V0N1B2]

I've been on this forum long enough to see people become enamoured with one brand, only to abandon it for something else a year later. To collect all the colours of the new brand and become bored or disillusioned when something else catches their eye. Then it's on to yet another brand of bags, then a year later I see them in the jewellery forums wanting to buy up everything in sight because either they don't have it or feel the need to own what they think everyone else wants.
At the end of the day it's just a bag. A really nice expensive bag, but still just something you use to carry your things around. It won't prevent your spouse from leaving you, get your kid into a better school, make you lose weight, change the outcome of certain events (ahem), or do anything for someone that they couldn't do without it.
I feel that inanimate objects don't really deserve that much of our attention, thoughts, emotions.
There is so much more I could say about this subject but I'm going to refrain. I think I've said enough

 

[grietje]

I've been on this forum long enough to see people become enamoured with one brand, only to abandon it for something else a year later. To collect all the colours of the new brand and become bored or disillusioned when something else catches their eye. Then it's on to yet another brand of bags, then a year later I see them in the jewellery forums wanting to buy up everything in sight because either they don't have it or feel the need to own what they think everyone else wants.
At the end of the day it's just a bag. A really nice expensive bag, but still just something you use to carry your things around. It won't prevent your spouse from leaving you, get your kid into a better school, make you lose weight, change the outcome of certain events (ahem), or do anything for someone that they couldn't do without it.
I feel that inanimate objects don't really deserve that much of our attention, thoughts, emotions.
There is so much more I could say about this subject but I'm going to refrain. I think I've said enough

I was thinking of what to edit out --you know--to shorten it. But the entire text resonates with me!

I've definitely been 'enamored with a brand', and 'collecting colors' in the past. Did that with Balenciaga and YSL. (Haven't had the jewelry experience though.)

What caught my attention is your words on leaving a brand. I know why I left Balenciaga. I had a couple a quality issues (excessive fading on a brand new bag) and then one day I thought 'I'm too old for the brand' and couldn't get over it. YSL is a bit fuzzier. I liked several styles--loved the Easy actually and felt quality was good. I bought my first BV while in the height of my YSL phase and just kept reaching for the BV. So here, it became preference.

I will say that I do monitor myself for boredom, being out of balance (and therefore acting out with retail purchases), and other 'demons.' It's not as much of an issue now but it happened in the past and I definitely didn't like how I, and it, felt.

As you said, it's just a bag and it doesn't deserve that much attention. In fact, I try hard not to say or write that I love a bag. Love is reserved for a select list: my husband, our dogs, my family and friends, and the ocean and how I feel when I'm there.

 

[frenziedhandbag]

you're evolving. What may have been important to you years ago, is perhaps not so much now. So, example, Balenciaga has served you well but for whatever reason, it's not clicking with you like it used to.

Focus on what feels right to you--you are the only person that matters.

This comes very close to my heart. I do like Balenciaga when I started looking into my first designer bag. But, when function (too heavy), versatility (more casual) and quality (fading, peeling, drying issues) started, I decided to move on... and thankfully found BV.

Being very new to the brand, I was also excited about the various styles and evolvement is so apt. When my child was younger, the disco bag was a staple but now that he is older, I can carry a larger crossbody for my own essentials. Having owned the medium Veneta for a while and found it perfect, I was surprised at how the Cervo Hobo worked even better for my lifestyle. I always thought bags with closures are more secure but I felt equally at ease with my Campana. So far, I am really enjoying my BV journey and I think that is all it matters. [emoji5]

 

[ksuromax]

I wouldn't over analyze though. You've discovered a brand that is resonating with your values, ideals, desires, aspirations--whatever it may be. And remember, you're evolving. What may have been important to you years ago, is perhaps not so much now. And that can even happen in a matter of months. So, with bags as an example, Balenciaga has served you well but for whatever reason, it's not clicking with you like it used to. And that's just fine.

The only thing to keep in check is the balance between external and internal motivations. Especially on tPF it's easy to get caught up in buying and building the collection or keeping up with others. Focus on what feels right to you--you are the only person that matters.

perfect points, just one thing - BV came into my life a lot earlier Bal goes thru a strict check-list (i.e. durability, cost per wear, speaciality, worthiness for the value, etc) BV is - oh, i love it! Add to cart, proceed to checkout!

 

[ksuromax]

This comes very close to my heart. I do like Balenciaga when I started looking into my first designer bag. But, when function (too heavy), versatility (more casual) and quality (fading, peeling, drying issues) started, I decided to move on... and thankfully found BV.

Being very new to the brand, I was also excited about the various styles and evolvement is so apt. When my child was younger, the disco bag was a staple but now that he is older, I can carry a larger crossbody for my own essentials. Having owned the medium Veneta for a while and found it perfect, I was surprised at how the Cervo Hobo worked even better for my lifestyle. I always thought bags with closures are more secure but I felt equally at ease with my Campana. So far, I am really enjoying my BV journey and I think that is all it matters. [emoji5]

it's great to read, A, really feels better to know that BV is indeed coming to our lives to stay.
I do keep my old Pradas, and Mulberries as well, but i don't feel fine to invest in these brands anymore. YKWIM?
But this doesn't relate to BV at all - out of the three only BV came into my life to stay, when it pushed out other 2, in a small space Balenciaga managed to squeez in, but it knows its place

 

[ksuromax]

I was thinking of what to edit out --you know--to shorten it. But the entire text resonates with me!

I've definitely been 'enamored with a brand', and 'collecting colors' in the past. Did that with Balenciaga and YSL. (Haven't had the jewelry experience though.)

What caught my attention is your words on leaving a brand. I know why I left Balenciaga. I had a couple a quality issues (excessive fading on a brand new bag) and then one day I thought 'I'm too old for the brand' and couldn't get over it. YSL is a bit fuzzier. I liked several styles--loved the Easy actually and felt quality was good. I bought my first BV while in the height of my YSL phase and just kept reaching for the BV. So here, it became preference.

I will say that I do monitor myself for boredom, being out of balance (and therefore acting out with retail purchases), and other 'demons.' It's not as much of an issue now but it happened in the past and I definitely didn't like how I, and it, felt.

As you said, it's just a bag and it doesn't deserve that much attention. In fact, I try hard not to say or write that I love a bag. Love is reserved for a select list: my husband, our dogs, my family and friends, and the ocean and how I feel when I'm there.

Great story, and it does answer my concerns.
Can i use the word 'trust' instead?
Have we found the trust in BV?
When you don't need to think about fading, peeling, whatever other quality related reason, or style/age issue, it's easier and probably safer to spend your money?

 

[frenziedhandbag]

BV is - oh, i love it! Add to cart, proceed to checkout!

I was just going to say perhaps deep down, you already knew BV checked all the boxes (or criteria that you had for Bal). And viola, your next post about "trust" in BV says it all. [emoji6]

 

[frenziedhandbag]

really feels better to know that BV is indeed coming to our lives to stay.
I do keep my old Pradas, and Mulberries as well, but i don't feel fine to invest in these brands anymore. YKWIM?

Yes. I understand. I do browse other brands but way lesser than before as I found myself comparing it to BV. For instance, I do like the Mulberry Lily but truthfully, the small Olimpia had my heart. After a massive downsizing project this year, I only have BV and Longchamp as these two had ticked all my boxes. I think it is awesome that you have found the "one".

*edit... I forgot the LV Twinset crossbody that ticked all my boxes too. I was lucky that this style came in embossed leather. Really like this one too.

 

[ksuromax]

Yes. I understand. I do browse other brands but way lesser than before as I found myself comparing it to BV. For instance, I do like the Mulberry Lily but truthfully, the small Olimpia had my heart. After a massive downsizing project this year, I only have BV and Longchamp as these two had ticked all my boxes. I think it is awesome that you have found the "one".

it's truly amazing how easily one can get one's mind cleared and put at ease just by a chat with a few people. But it's a gang of RIGHT people, people who do understand what you are saying and why you're saying.
i was worried i was taken over, so i asked for advice here, advice from people who have been through and people who will not judge. As many here know, it's difficult to find the understanding outside, and i am so grateful for your valuable inputs and sharing ideas with me