New liquid patent push lock satchel---patent fabric????help!!!

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#19
jan1124 said:
I had a conversation about patent leather with a Coach outlet manager. They go to "Coach school" - and are trained extensively, just as the Coach full price store managers are. I was questioning why one of the panels on my cobalt Sophia was extremely wrinkled, and the other 3/4's of the purse are as smooth as glass. Maybe the rest of you patent experts know this - but I didn't realize the leather (cowhides, calf, whatever) are coated - bonded - with the layer of patent, which is a plastic-like manmade coating. After the leather pieces are made into "patent leather" - they are cut into the pieces to make handbags - and each handbag may have pieces from 5 (or more) different hides - and that's why you'll see different textures from front to back, or section to section, or strap etc.

So - I'm guessing "patent fabric" - is probably a durable fabric - probably like signature fabric - and then it's bonded with the manmade patent material, that makes it "Patent".

I always assumed "Patent" was ALL leather - stupid me - like maybe the leather is highly polished. I would have also assumed the liquid patent (gloss?) was all leather - but knowing it's fabric underneath, rather than leather - no way would I pay $400. Like Tracis30 said - "Coach is getting a little too big for their britches"....... but that's even being a little to kind when it's somewhat deceiving to the normal consumer - The highly trained expert Coach SA's should have explained the product before she took the OP's $$$$$!
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Thank you for your info. Well, i feel if the patent fabric equal to plastic......I would rather some thing else instead of it......if someone tell me that the patent fabric really a new better technique........durable........ I would be very glad to keep the cutie
 
#20
katierose said:
Aimeng, I know how you feel, I once bought an expensive patent designer bag that looked so nice in the store, all black and shiny. But when I got it home I realized it was made from coated canvas, not leather. I really liked it, but I just couldn't spend that type of money for something that wasn't leather so I took it back. I've never regretted it either, because I know it would have always bothered me knowing it was canvas and not leather, and I'm glad I noticed it before I used it.
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Thank you
 
#21
Tygriss said:
Well, it is listed on the website as patent fabric. They clearly went out of their way to call it Liquid Gloss instead of patent which could be easily assumed to be leather.

As for the price point of patent fabric? There's another well known luxury brand that charges quite a bit more for coated canvas. Essentially, the same thing. And oddly enough, people buy it.

Personally, I think it's great to see Coach expanding their material options.
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Well yeah, but you know, people like me, go to store directly .........I had no idea that is was not leather at all.....it looks and feels 100%like patent leather!!!a purse like that in coach store is always patent leather..........so we need to pay attention to the material they use later on......
 
#22
Fab Fashionista said:
I have the same one (Bag twins!) . . . I see your point; however, for the detailing and the hardware plus the PCE, I was OK with the price. I think had it been patent leather, it would have been more. Not that I would not have preferred leather. Overall, I can overlook it because it is soooo cute but would not think bad of you in any way if you could not live with it knowing you were somehow cheated. Good luck on your decission!
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Bag twins.....oh yeah:D......well, I think if the quality is really good, durable....no color transfer problems.......it is definitely a keeper..... You know, love it when I tried it on ......couldn't put it down.......
 
#23
I saw the bags today at FP, love the style!! :) I too think the price is high for the material the bags are made of.
I also wanted to mention I picked up a wristlet that was made of the liquid gloss and it felt fat and puffy so I opened it and inside was a dustbag sized to fit the wristlet so I had to ask my SA what is this about?? She told me the liquid gloss transfers color really easily and they destroyed two bags in the bag because they were sitting next to each other for two days and the transfer was horrible (black bag transfered onto a cherry bag) so she warned me if you buy any of the liquid gloss to be really careful with color transfer...anyway...just wanted to pass that along!!
Good luck with your decision! :)
 
#24
Ok if I was ever unsure of the liquid gloss bags, now I am sure I will not come home with me! Ick, colour transfer for a $$$$ bag. Where is quality control?--yet again! I will have to as my SA the nest time I see her...
 
#25
Yes, there is the very high probability of color transfer with light colored patent. This is for leather as well as fabric. AND it is not just at Coach. Other luxury brands selling light colored patent leather and coated fabric also provide dust bags for the same reason.
 
#26
Tygriss said:
Yes, there is the very high probability of color transfer with light colored patent. This is for leather as well as fabric. AND it is not just at Coach. Other luxury brands selling light colored patent leather and coated fabric also provide dust bags for the same reason.
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Bingo! Colour transfer has nothing to do with the manufacturer's quality control. Colour transfer has everything to do with "user error".
 
#28
I was reading all these posts again and started feeling bad for OP. I said I wouldn't pay that much for patent fabric and then realized I just bought a $820 canvas LV bag! Doh! We're paying for a name on this kind of deal. OP- I'm sorry! Enjoy that bag, girl! :)
 
#29
I'm sorry...I just don't get the comparison with LV canvas. That stuff wears like iron, unlike this.
A better comparison with LV canvas would be Heritage Stripe canvas. And we all know those bags hold up really good as well. I know I would take a HS bag over this LG stuff anyday.

IMO, I feel like this line should NOT cost the same as Patent Leather. I'd rather have an MFF leather bag than one of these (and it would be cheaper!)
I love Coach...I really really do...but I refuse to buy these "cutting corners" bags for these prices. It makes me sad.
I mean, how hard could it have been to make these out of Patent Leather? They would have been worth the money (in the scheme of things here) and would have held up well. I would have been the first in line to buy the Groovy in Magenta, that's for sure.

Honestly, I would rather just keep and admire my faux patent leather Hello Kitty embossed bag. It cost $60 and is awesome. :)

(Just my two cents, and I didn't mean to offend anyone if I did. After all, I am the young lady who loves bags made of twill fabric and covered with sequins, and I pay dearly for the work/effort of putting all those darn sequins on. At least you can take the LG stuff out in the rain, LOL!)
 
#30
You could always return it now and hold out for picking it up at the outlet....perhaps you might be more comfortable with it paying outlet price rather than PCE...will probably save another $100 by doing so
 
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