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truly. I think i have an increased appreciation for vintage products now, regardless of which luxury brand. Globalization and free trade has claimed its victims - quality products. I am still very fond of my chanels and continue to cherish and use them. Thanks op for initiating this interesting thread amidst rows and rows of repetitive reveals.
Truly. I think i have an increased appreciation for vintage products now, regardless of which luxury brand. Globalization and free trade has claimed its victims - quality products. I am still very fond of my Chanels and continue to cherish and use them. Thanks OP for initiating this interesting thread amidst rows and rows of repetitive reveals.
I'm so glad I came across this thread. I'm getting so fed up with and stressed about these quality issues, and I'm not exclusively referring to Chanel. LV is worse, IMO. I know the main point of this thread is outsourcing, but I think quality is a sub-topic here. Admittedly, I have also been so naive and blinded by the exotic "made in France or Italy" stamps that I forgot these logo capitalizing companies are just businesses.
My husband made a good point to me the other night after a quality issue popped up with a Louis he just bought me. He saw how upset I was because he knows how passionate I am about the brand. He simply asked me this: why on earth would you want to continue buying this crap and giving money to a company that doesn't give a sh*t about you? And I think that's when it dawned on me that he was absolutely right. In retrospect, if I were to make a collective assessment of all of the high end bags I've ever owned, I would have to say that they have brought me more stress than bliss. It's sad, but it is so true. And I'm referring to the following: pretentious SAs who act like they're doing you a favor by letting you shop in their store, quality issues galore, the grandeur, delusional conception of inflation (aka price increases), overly high maintenance and care that diminishes wearing the darn bags comfortably, and the amount of money the entire effing experience costs to feel that emotionally abused. Because, YES - it's borderline abuse.
That being said, I'm done with all of it. I get more use and joy out of my lesser coveted brands, and believe it or not, the quality sometimes surpasses the higher end names. For instance, Kate Spade is a very nice, low key brand. Yes, KS items are made in China, but the company doesn't try to pretend otherwise. And I'm more comfortable with a $300-400 bag openly made in China than with a $5500 bag with production discretions.
I used to be an avid shopper at Louis Vuitton. I just started to get into Chanel. But now I don't think I have the energy, patience, or sanity to invest in these love affairs any longer.
I am so buying what you are selling. Excellent points, especially about abusive SAs. I tend to buy from department stores for that reason, nicer SAs and better return policies.I'm so glad I came across this thread. I'm getting so fed up with and stressed about these quality issues, and I'm not exclusively referring to Chanel. LV is worse, IMO. I know the main point of this thread is outsourcing, but I think quality is a sub-topic here. Admittedly, I have also been so naive and blinded by the exotic "made in France or Italy" stamps that I forgot these logo capitalizing companies are just businesses.
My husband made a good point to me the other night after a quality issue popped up with a Louis he just bought me. He saw how upset I was because he knows how passionate I am about the brand. He simply asked me this: why on earth would you want to continue buying this crap and giving money to a company that doesn't give a sh*t about you? And I think that's when it dawned on me that he was absolutely right. In retrospect, if I were to make a collective assessment of all of the high end bags I've ever owned, I would have to say that they have brought me more stress than bliss. It's sad, but it is so true. And I'm referring to the following: pretentious SAs who act like they're doing you a favor by letting you shop in their store, quality issues galore, the grandeur, delusional conception of inflation (aka price increases), overly high maintenance and care that diminishes wearing the darn bags comfortably, and the amount of money the entire effing experience costs to feel that emotionally abused. Because, YES - it's borderline abuse.
That being said, I'm done with all of it. I get more use and joy out of my lesser coveted brands, and believe it or not, the quality sometimes surpasses the higher end names. For instance, Kate Spade is a very nice, low key brand. Yes, KS items are made in China, but the company doesn't try to pretend otherwise. And I'm more comfortable with a $300-400 bag openly made in China than with a $5500 bag with production discretions.
I used to be an avid shopper at Louis Vuitton. I just started to get into Chanel. But now I don't think I have the energy, patience, or sanity to invest in these love affairs any longer.
I'm so glad I came across this thread. I'm getting so fed up with and stressed about these quality issues, and I'm not exclusively referring to Chanel. LV is worse, IMO. I know the main point of this thread is outsourcing, but I think quality is a sub-topic here. Admittedly, I have also been so naive and blinded by the exotic "made in France or Italy" stamps that I forgot these logo capitalizing companies are just businesses.
My husband made a good point to me the other night after a quality issue popped up with a Louis he just bought me. He saw how upset I was because he knows how passionate I am about the brand. He simply asked me this: why on earth would you want to continue buying this crap and giving money to a company that doesn't give a sh*t about you? And I think that's when it dawned on me that he was absolutely right. In retrospect, if I were to make a collective assessment of all of the high end bags I've ever owned, I would have to say that they have brought me more stress than bliss. It's sad, but it is so true. And I'm referring to the following: pretentious SAs who act like they're doing you a favor by letting you shop in their store, quality issues galore, the grandeur, delusional conception of inflation (aka price increases), overly high maintenance and care that diminishes wearing the darn bags comfortably, and the amount of money the entire effing experience costs to feel that emotionally abused. Because, YES - it's borderline abuse.
That being said, I'm done with all of it. I get more use and joy out of my lesser coveted brands, and believe it or not, the quality sometimes surpasses the higher end names. For instance, Kate Spade is a very nice, low key brand. Yes, KS items are made in China, but the company doesn't try to pretend otherwise. And I'm more comfortable with a $300-400 bag openly made in China than with a $5500 bag with production discretions.
I used to be an avid shopper at Louis Vuitton. I just started to get into Chanel. But now I don't think I have the energy, patience, or sanity to invest in these love affairs any longer.
Very well said.
I'm so glad I came across this thread. I'm getting so fed up with and stressed about these quality issues, and I'm not exclusively referring to Chanel. LV is worse, IMO. I know the main point of this thread is outsourcing, but I think quality is a sub-topic here. Admittedly, I have also been so naive and blinded by the exotic "made in France or Italy" stamps that I forgot these logo capitalizing companies are just businesses.
My husband made a good point to me the other night after a quality issue popped up with a Louis he just bought me. He saw how upset I was because he knows how passionate I am about the brand. He simply asked me this: why on earth would you want to continue buying this crap and giving money to a company that doesn't give a sh*t about you? And I think that's when it dawned on me that he was absolutely right. In retrospect, if I were to make a collective assessment of all of the high end bags I've ever owned, I would have to say that they have brought me more stress than bliss. It's sad, but it is so true. And I'm referring to the following: pretentious SAs who act like they're doing you a favor by letting you shop in their store, quality issues galore, the grandeur, delusional conception of inflation (aka price increases), overly high maintenance and care that diminishes wearing the darn bags comfortably, and the amount of money the entire effing experience costs to feel that emotionally abused. Because, YES - it's borderline abuse.
That being said, I'm done with all of it. I get more use and joy out of my lesser coveted brands, and believe it or not, the quality sometimes surpasses the higher end names. For instance, Kate Spade is a very nice, low key brand. Yes, KS items are made in China, but the company doesn't try to pretend otherwise. And I'm more comfortable with a $300-400 bag openly made in China than with a $5500 bag with production discretions.
I used to be an avid shopper at Louis Vuitton. I just started to get into Chanel. But now I don't think I have the energy, patience, or sanity to invest in these love affairs any longer.
Very well said indeed. My husband tells me the same thing and I get upset because I feel he is attacking my taste somehow but thank God for his voice of reason. The princess has awoken from her deep slumber and delusion but I'm afraid it's a little too lateI am angry at myself but if we didn't have the extra disposable income, we would have been quite happy with quality over name.
Not to beat myself up too much, I was brought up to save and buy the best but that was in a day when there was no outsourcing. Times have changed but we can also elicit change and stop buying into the designer bag crap.
I long for the day I can stroll the streets of Florence and see the artisans hard at work over their craft and I can pick up a good leather/jewellery item from them.
It's kind of hard hearing what we don't wish to hear...but I have to say the men are right on this one. I'm walking away while I can (and while I'm far, far from any boutique), and sadly for my wallet, hanging out lurking in the jewelry thread more often. I just can't get excited over bad SA's anymore (and I'm looking at YOU, Nordstrom and Chanel boutique) selling inferior work for ridiculous prices. I have what I have, and that's more than plenty. I'm a bit miffed as well, but what's done is done. But I can act upon what I do from here out. I'm acting with my $$$.
Truly. I think i have an increased appreciation for vintage products now, regardless of which luxury brand. Globalization and free trade has claimed its victims - quality products. I am still very fond of my Chanels and continue to cherish and use them. Thanks OP for initiating this interesting thread amidst rows and rows of repetitive reveals.