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#31
duchessofs said:
Claude is correct. The worst thing you can do to leather is to put too much conditioner (lotions included)on it;or condition too often. It can cause the leather to break down.
Leather comes from the tanneries with a protectant on it. If you don't know how to properly maintain you leather-leave it to someone who does.
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It's not rocket science:amazed::p As long as you don't slop on you're fine. I'd like to see the Hermes bag that had leather break down. I have Hermes as well as other branded vintage bags from the 1970's and 1960's and I have yet to see leather broken down. Cracking and grazing of leather appears from mostly from climatic changes and poor care as in not keeping the leather moisturized. I understand where Claude is coming from with his advice, but he is giving it IMO because people tend to over-utilize a conditioning product. Moderation is the key, as in most things in life. OK, I'm done now;)
 
#32
I used it on my chevre. The shoemaker, who sold it to me recommended I use a bit at a time (don't slop it on) and quickly polish it off. However, to test the product in a discreet spot incase the colour gets affected (he was most worried about that). At one time H. did sell leather cleaner. I did have a jar.
 
#33
I have used it on other bags like gucci's (the trim) and tod's bags. I also use it on my hubby's gucci loafers b.c they tend to dry out and I dont' know why!! My birkin, however, does not appear to be dry at all and Claude told me that it was in great shape and not to put anything on it. I have never had a spa at H and want to get one but the wait is now so long that the NY store is actually sending bags out because they cannot do all the work that is coming in. Hence wanting to give her my own little spa.
 
#34
Gracekelly,I know it isn't rocket science;but it is science.
Unless you know the process the leather was tanned in,vegetable,chrome,
I would take some time to learn about conditioning leather.

I plan to take my bags only to Hermes for conditioning.
I will wipe off surface dirt and dust myself.
Unless you know how "little" conditioner to use for a particular leather,I would leave it to the experts.
Too much "oil" changes the composition of leather.

If Claude or another Hermes craftsperson gave me directions on how much,how often, and which product to use I would happily do it myself.
 
#35
^I think it's largely a liability question with them, they want to play it safe. If they gave the advise that yes, by all means condition your bags yourself, and then someone would do it wrong, they could be held liable possibly for replacing a multi-thousand-dollar item. I believe that that is the reason that they recommend their scarves to be professionally dry cleaned too even though they are super to wash if you know how.
 
#36
Hello2703, That is a very good supposition! If that is the case;I think anyone that is going to purchase a pre loved bag would be wise to ask a few questions.
Has the reseller applied any product to the bag? If so what,and how often?
I think that this would be a reasonable and perhaps important question.

I have read here that even drops of water bring up "blisters" on some bags, I wonder what product they would use to clean their bags themselves?
 
#37
duchessofs said:
Hello2703, That is a very good supposition! If that is the case;I think anyone that is going to purchase a pre loved bag would be wise to ask a few questions.
Has the reseller applied any product to the bag? If so what,and how often?
I think that this would be a reasonable and perhaps important question.

I have read here that even drops of water bring up "blisters" on some bags, I wonder what product they would use to clean their bags themselves?
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Good point!
With regards to blisters: I confess that I do treat my bags with Meltonian - within reason. Have been caught in a downpour with my chamonix Kelly - water pearled right off. Have been caught in drizzle with box Birkin - water did hit the leather but no blisters.

I totally see your point when you say that the bags should be treated by qualified craftsmen only because they know the tanning process and the possible chemical reactions involved.

But I am of the same opinion as gracekelly, that it is not rocket science and that you can 'feel' it.

So I see both your points.

However: because of my equestrian sport I have been cleaning/dealing with various leathers for a long time and feel comfortable applying Meltonian (which by the way HAS allegedly been recommended by Claude to some members here) to my bags to rehydrate them. I see/smell/feel the results and find them pleasing.

I would say the bottom line is: you need to feel comfortable with what you're doing. If you're not, taking the bags to the Hermes spa every now and then is the way to go.

I felt the same way before I washed my first scarf. It took a while to take the plunge and today I feel totally comfortable washing my scarves instead of sending them to the cleaner's.
 
#38
I think Hello is right about the liability issue. All companies today play with safe, to the point of paranoia, regarding their products.


Stated by Hello
I would say the bottom line is: you need to feel comfortable with what you're doing. If you're not, taking the bags to the Hermes spa every now and then is the way to go.
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Totally agree!
 
#45
Hello Birkin lovers, I relly need your help,thanks everyone for sharing,I hope I can get a birkin as a gift for my mum's birthday on Dec 28,could you tell me If you know news about birkin in montreal? thank you so much.
 
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