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And your process?
I’m different. Both Keira and Viggo really went into the research, more than I did. I tend to spend more time with the script than most. I’ll probably read the script 250 times – that means you spend eight hours a day for three weeks, just repeating it, so that when I arrive on the set for the first day it doesn’t matter what scene we’re doing, because I’ve got the whole thing off by heart. With this one, Christopher had written such a dense script, that I felt my own work revolved around trying to get the rhythm of it, and to respect the writing. It was written in such a way that I felt it was like a piece of music, and only after lots of repetition did I start to uncover the rhythms. Any extra research I could do was really a luxury. I did get a great book on Jung, which was like Jung for children – an idiot’s handbook. I think found pretty much everything I needed to find in that little book.
I understand that your sister is a neuro-psychologist.
Yeah. They call it neuro-scientist now; I can never keep up. She basically deals with behaviour. She specialises in ADD and ADHD in children.
How akin is that to psychology?
You’re still mapping out the brain, thinking about what part of the brain is responsible for certain behaviour, then considering how much of a certain behaviour is genetic, how much environmental. Is a drug addict that way, for example, because they grew up in an environment with drugs? This is layman’s stuff - if she heard me she’d be going nuts.
Did you talk to her about Jung?
I did, yeah. She thought it was great that I was playing him. She’s a fan of Jung. Even though my sister is scientific, she is of that belief that there are a lot of unanswered things out there that science hasn’t yet been able to explain, or perhaps never will; so I think she likes that mystic element to Jung.
Your dad’s a chef, your sister’s a scientist, you’re an actor. Quite a mix.
And my mum’s done various things. She worked in the administrative side of the hotel business, then when we took over the restaurant, when I was 16, she ran the front of house. So Dad was in the kitchen, she was running the outside. And yeah, it’s kinda mad. One interesting thing that Abi [writer Abi Morgan] and Steve did with Shame was create that sibling dynamic between Brandon and Sissy (pictured above right, Fassbender with Carey Mulligan). When we were growing up my sister always had her head in a book, while I preferred doing things physically – we grew up in the country, so I was out and about climbing trees, fishing, things like that. She wanted to go to university, I wanted to go out and get a job and be immediately in a practical environment. It’s like that with Sissy and Brandon. He is closed off with his emotions, she just can’t stop gushing her emotions over the first person she sees. And both of them are trying to find some semblance of connection, but with very different techniques, and problems. It’s the interesting thing with siblings – you can have two very different personalities, but you know each other so well, and there’s a brutality and an honesty there, and a support system. Siblings know each other sometimes better than the parents know them.
Where did the acting urge spring from ?
It was down to this guy Donie Courtney, he was a former pupil of the secondary school I went to in Killarney, St Brendan’s College. He came back from the Gaiety Theatre in Dublin, where he studied, and set up these workshops. We didn’t have anything like that at our school until that point, so I started doing the workshops and I was "Wow, this feels right, I’d like to give this a go." I was 17. Then he set up a professional company in the town. So I started doing pantomime, and pub theatre. I spent six months watching Donie like a hawk, trying to soak up as much as I could. And then I just said, “Maybe I’ll try this myself”. With pure ignorance and naivety, but plenty of passion and enthusiasm. So when I was 18 I got my friends together and decided to direct and produce Reservoir Dogs, and play Mr Pink (Steve Buscemi’s part). I guess that was the advantage of doing it myself: I got to cast myself in the best part. Mr Pink always appealed to me, because he was a survivor, an almost rat-like character, he would survive any sort of outcome. I just thought it was an interesting character to explore. I approached him more like [Robert De Niro’s] Johnny Boy in Mean Streets, than the Buscemi characterisation, like a loose cannon.
Was it a success?
We did it in Ravel’s night club in Killarney, only for two nights, but it went down really well. We had 114 people for the first night, then 140, we packed out the club.
That would have been just a couple of years after the film’s release. Do you think it’s the only time Reservoir Dogs has been staged?
I think it did get staged again a couple of years later. We did it without really looking into copyright or anything like that. We did it for charity, so I think that’s a loophole. But then it was difficult to find a charity that would take our money, because no one wanted to be associated with Reservoir Dogs because of the violence and all that. In the end we found a private charity, for a little girl whose sight was impaired and needed an operation.
You’ve since worked for Tarantino, of course, on Inglourious Basterds. What did he say about your play?
I told him we gave the money to charity and he said [a good, squeaky likeness], “That’s cool, man. As long as you’re not making money out of my ****.”
It’s hard to believe that Hunger was just three years ago. Since then you’ve worked with Tarantino, Andrea Arnold, Cronenberg, Ridley Scott. Have you taken stock of the speed at which your career has progressed?
Yeah, I have. At times you just go, “You’re a lucky bastard”. When I was 17 this position that I’m in now would have been the ultimate achievement for me. When I say achievement, I mean working for those people you’ve just listed, and to find a relationship with a director like Steve, where we’ve formed a really strong collaboration. My influence was the Scorsese films and what he achieved with De Niro, and also Sidney Lumet and Al Pacino – that was the dream, to find a collaboration like that. It’s nuts, as good as I could have ever hoped for.
Can you account for it?
I think it’s timing, being in the right place at the right time – and knowing that. I’ve seen some really talented actors, working around me, where I’m like “God, that guy, that girl, they’re really, really good.” And then I never see them again. I knew in 2007 that I was getting an opportunity with Hunger, I knew the door was being left open – and I managed to ****ing slide in there. And then it’s about staying in the room before somebody realises that you’re not supposed to be there. And you do that by getting to work with somebody good on the next job and somebody who can elevate you, so hopefully you keep some quality to your work.
Cary Fukunaga has talked of a rather splendid lamb that you cooked on the set of Jane Eyre. It made me think of Jeff Bridges’s famous gesture of giving self-made photo albums to the cast and crew. Do you imagine providing Fassbender’s film feast?
Yes, handing everyone a lamb chop on the way home! But that’s a good idea, actually, and my dad is always telling me I should cook more. Steve and I were saying that if we do the next film we should have a big cooking extravaganza for the crew. Breaking bread with people and sharing a meal together is a very special experience.
Of course, the film’s caterers might not be amused.
Well, exactly. They might have something to say about that.
A Dangerous Method opens on Friday 10 February
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