Michael & Alicia Fassbender ~ A Loving Couple Thread

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Yeah, each to their own. The vibe you describe though is YOUR reaction to her and isn't shared by most people; I don't get the aloof or vapid vibe and have seen her being interviewed where she is very charming and endearing.

I doubt Alicia has any desire to be a "celebrity movie star" like JLaw, she's a very private person who is motivated by the craft, not fame. Regardless of whether the American studios want her, trust me she will continue to get high quality roles in Europe, she is VERY highly regarded here by directors and fellow actors.


Actually, Alicia comes across as someone who is motivated more by fame than craft, judging by her career choices between oscar-baity films and big budget thrillers. Great for her that she landed those roles, she must be doing something right, but I think it's disingenuous to claim she's all about 'the craft'. That comment about being at the oscars and wanting to be better known has always struck me as very candid and in bad taste. Mia Wasikowska is someone who is genuinely all about the craft. You never see her overexposed in the media, hanging onto Harvey or whatever it is young starlets unfortunately have to do to make it. The downside is she's not as famous as she could be. But she's struck out a very diverse international career and worked with great directors. She's made risky choices, some that didn't pay off, and some that did.

I actually think Alicia and JLaw are similar when it comes to acting chops. Very naturalistic, charismatic, but no complexity or depth. This can all be improved with experience and learning, but at the moment, I'd say both are overrated in the acting department. They're both fine, but not the amazing goddesses these PR spins will have us believe. JLaw does have the upper hand because 1. she's American and 2. very relatable. I personally find her a little grating, but she always seems genuine.

AV seems stiff and calculated. Having said that I don't think an actress' personality should be a factor in how we judge her acting (god knows Rooney Mara is aloof, but very talented).
 
Actually, Alicia comes across as someone who is motivated more by fame than craft, judging by her career choices between oscar-baity films and big budget thrillers. Great for her that she landed those roles, she must be doing something right, but I think it's disingenuous to claim she's all about 'the craft'. That comment about being at the oscars and wanting to be better known has always struck me as very candid and in bad taste. Mia Wasikowska is someone who is genuinely all about the craft. You never see her overexposed in the media, hanging onto Harvey or whatever it is young starlets unfortunately have to do to make it. The downside is she's not as famous as she could be. But she's struck out a very diverse international career and worked with great directors. She's made risky choices, some that didn't pay off, and some that did.



I actually think Alicia and JLaw are similar when it comes to acting chops. Very naturalistic, charismatic, but no complexity or depth. This can all be improved with experience and learning, but at the moment, I'd say both are overrated in the acting department. They're both fine, but not the amazing goddesses these PR spins will have us believe. JLaw does have the upper hand because 1. she's American and 2. very relatable. I personally find her a little grating, but she always seems genuine.



AV seems stiff and calculated. Having said that I don't think an actress' personality should be a factor in how we judge her acting (god knows Rooney Mara is aloof, but very talented).


I think you need to reacquaint yourself with Alicia's CV. I'm also curious to know which of her films you've seen? "No complexity or depth"? Fortunately your opinion is not widely shared, if you read critical reviews of her performances the opposite is said of her. You have also misquoted her with regard to wanting to be at the Oscars, again worth revisiting the interview concerned. Why do you believe JLaw being American gives her the "upper hand"? In what sense? That Americans prefer American actors to European actors? I think that's generally known, although it's surprising how many European actors are chosen to play well known American figures despite that; Alicia's boyfriend, Michael Fassbender is a classic example, playing Steve Jobs, and there are many other recent examples. In conclusion Alicia IS getting these parts by doing "something right", which is impressing directors with her ability and talent.
 
Actually, Alicia comes across as someone who is motivated more by fame than craft, judging by her career choices between oscar-baity films and big budget thrillers. Great for her that she landed those roles, she must be doing something right, but I think it's disingenuous to claim she's all about 'the craft'. That comment about being at the oscars and wanting to be better known has always struck me as very candid and in bad taste. Mia Wasikowska is someone who is genuinely all about the craft. You never see her overexposed in the media, hanging onto Harvey or whatever it is young starlets unfortunately have to do to make it. The downside is she's not as famous as she could be. But she's struck out a very diverse international career and worked with great directors. She's made risky choices, some that didn't pay off, and some that did.



I actually think Alicia and JLaw are similar when it comes to acting chops. Very naturalistic, charismatic, but no complexity or depth. This can all be improved with experience and learning, but at the moment, I'd say both are overrated in the acting department. They're both fine, but not the amazing goddesses these PR spins will have us believe. JLaw does have the upper hand because 1. she's American and 2. very relatable. I personally find her a little grating, but she always seems genuine.



AV seems stiff and calculated. Having said that I don't think an actress' personality should be a factor in how we judge her acting (god knows Rooney Mara is aloof, but very talented).


Alicia is getting a rep in the industry for having one of the most expressive faces and people keep praising her for being an amazing silent actress that allows the audience to feel her emotions just by a look, evidence, Ex Machina and Testament Of Youth, and apparently The Danish Girl will be another great performance. Taste is of course subjective but I have yet to read a review of Alicia's work where someone writes that she lacks depth. I agree that American, or english speaking actresses have the upper hand in terms of being able to express themselves in interviews or when improvising but that isn't really a problem when you've got a script and well written lines. But Alicia was very honest about that being a problem when doing The Man From UNCLE, and as I also have english as a second language I know where she's coming from. It's very hard to get your humor or points across at times.

I think there's no point in putting one actress against another, it's all about preferences. I agree Mia is a very good actress, JLaw is in my opinion maybe not one of the strongest in the business but she makes up for it by being very charismatic and out spoken. That doesn't mean that there's no room for Alicia. She shouldn't have to change her personality to "be more like JLaw". Let her be who she is, it's clearly working for her since both directors and co-stars enjoys working with her and keeps saying how down to earth and professional she is. I couldn't care less if she "isn't going to get famous like JLaw" or "isn't a A-list celebrity". If Alicia wanted to be famous she'd live in LA and walk around all dressed up with her tiny dog waiting for the paparazzi, clearly that's not something she's interrested in. She's said time and time again that she's much more comfortable in front of a camera on set then when doing press. She's trying to get better at it but this is her first year of really doing big press junkets, it's just not something she's that comfortable doing but she knows it's part of the gig if you want people to come see your work. She's learning every single day how the media works and what misstakes are easily made.

So don't give me any more of that "more motivated by fame then the craft" BS, that's just not true.
 
Actually, there are different types of fame, not all of it Kardashian style. Alicia is clearly hungry and ambitious and wants to be a famous oscar type actress - and I think that's a great thing! It's good to be ambitious. I don't know why you fans make it sound like it's a bad thing. What I have issue with is this fake posturing by you guys, her fans, instead of owning up to it.

About JLaw and Alicia, I'm neutral. I do think JLaw has an upper hand because she's American, Americans find her relatable and Hollywood is based in America. Things are changing of course and global box office receipts/franchises account for more than star power and local box office now, but JLaw remains one of the rare hollywood stars of the old tradition. She is a rare female equivalent to someone like Leo. I'm not saying this as a JLaw fan, like I said I'm neutral, it's just my opinion on the industry. She's got charisma that not many have, not just Alicia.

Lastly, and this is my bone to pick with the commenter not Alicia - we all know casting is influenced by so much more than just 'talent'. Please. Don't be naive.
 
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This is an article on Scandinavia's chances in the Oscar race and all the films they could have in competition. It of course mentions The Danish Girl but I didn't know she was also in discussion for the reboot of The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo.
 
Talking about her and Mia Wasikowska, I find their acting styles similar in some ways ,but I don't see any similarity between her and Jennifer Lawrence. Also,I don't think the comment "I'm ready to be more known" meant that she's more motivated by fame than craft. It was just a blunt comment about the fact that all her movies filmed in the past two years,or even before,are being released this year. She probably thought that Tulip Fever and TLBO would have been released this year too.

:smile1::smile1: thank you so much, LOVED this have never seen it before, strange because I love dance and it's a swedish man behind the film
;)This other short,with the NYCB principal Wendy Whelan,seems interesting too: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tB1UMP8b-Lc

Alicia nominated for European Actress of the year at the European Film Award 2015. This time for Ex Machina. Alex Garland nominated for best screenplay! :)

The show is in Berlin on December 12.

http://www.europeanfilmawards.eu/en_EN/nomination-current
I was sure she would have been nominated for Ex Machina at the BIFA.

This is an article on Scandinavia's chances in the Oscar race and all the films they could have in competition. It of course mentions The Danish Girl but I didn't know she was also in discussion for the reboot of The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo.
Yes,apparently Rudin and Amy Pascal want her for the reboot.
 
Actually, there are different types of fame, not all of it Kardashian style. Alicia is clearly hungry and ambitious and wants to be a famous oscar type actress - and I think that's a great thing! It's good to be ambitious. I don't know why you fans make it sound like it's a bad thing. What I have issue with is this fake posturing by you guys, her fans, instead of owning up to it.

About JLaw and Alicia, I'm neutral. I do think JLaw has an upper hand because she's American, Americans find her relatable and Hollywood is based in America. Things are changing of course and global box office receipts/franchises account for more than star power and local box office now, but JLaw remains one of the rare hollywood stars of the old tradition. She is a rare female equivalent to someone like Leo. I'm not saying this as a JLaw fan, like I said I'm neutral, it's just my opinion on the industry. She's got charisma that not many have, not just Alicia.

Lastly, and this is my bone to pick with the commenter not Alicia - we all know casting is influenced by so much more than just 'talent'. Please. Don't be naive.

I don't think being ambitious is a bad thing either, and I like her more for owning up to it, unlike some other actresses/actors that I won't mention that only care about being celebrities but pretend otherwise. The biggest problem with what Alicia said in that interview is that she is a woman saying those things, and surprise surprise, the majority of people who have problems with what she said are also woman. There's all this feminist talk going on in Hollywood right now and of course everyone is all over it but I have yet to see people who claim to be feminists actually realize that when they turn around and judge comments like those made by Alicia they are setting us a huge step back.

I don't like Jennifer Lawrence's acting or public persona, I think she's super overrated but somehow everything is working in her favor and she should enjoy it.

Well, like you said casting is influenced by more than talent sadly and that is obvious in some movies with some directors, it goes for both men and women but I don't believe it's what happens with Alicia. Not when the only major film she has been so far is The Man for Uncle. All her other movies have been low budget indies or Swedish films, only recently she started getting movies that are bound to bring more attention to her and most of them are a result from having already being the star of a very well received Oscar nominated movie, who happened to be an indie low budget Danish movie. If Michael had the same luck she had when he was her age his career would have sky rocked a lot sooner than it did.

There are actors who only ever do big budget movies like Robert D. Jr., actors who only do Oscar bait movies like Leo (at least in the last ten years or so lol), and actors who only do big budget movies every once in a while that allows them to have the security they need to do more indie movies, they need something to support themselves financially and to help get those indie movie made like Fassy and James McAvoy. Alicia's career is still only just beginning, so far she's been in a mix of films she did because they where the roles she got (like for example Seventh Son and Son of a Gun, mostly basic female supporting roles), indie movies like Ex Machina and Testament of Youth that are more challenging and passionate roles, and big budget movies like UNCLE and Bourne. She's filmed two movies already this year which I hunk it's plenty enough for someone who still has 2 movies ready to come out next year, and we will have to wait and see what she chooses next before we brand her anything.
 
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I don't think being ambitious is a bad thing either, and I like her more for owning up to it, unlike some other actress that I won't mention that only care about being celebrities but pretend otherwise. The biggest problem with what Alicia said in that interview is that she is a woman saying those things, and surprise surprise, the majority of people who have problems with what she said are also woman. There's all this feminist talk going on in Hollywood right now and of course everyone is all over it but I have yet to see people who claim to be feminists actually realize that when they turn around a judge comments like those made by Alicia they are setting us a huge step back.

I don't like Jennifer Lawrence's acting or public persona, I think she's super overrated but somehow everything is working in her favor and she should enjoy it.

Well, like you said casting is influenced by more than talent sadly and that is obvious in some movies with some directors, it goes for both men and women but I don't believe it's what happens with Alicia. Not when the only major film she has been so far is The Man for Uncle. All her other movies have been low budget indies or Swedish films, only recently she started getting movies that are bound to bring more attention to her and most of them are a result from having already being the star of a very well received Oscar nominated movie, who happened to be an indie low budget Danish movie. If Michael had the same luck she had when he was her age his career would have sky rocked a lot sooner than it did,

OMG!!! Marry me!
All of this. Everything! My exact thoughts!
 
I don't think being ambitious is a bad thing either, and I like her more for owning up to it, unlike some other actress that I won't mention that only care about being celebrities but pretend otherwise. The biggest problem with what Alicia said in that interview is that she is a woman saying those things, and surprise surprise, the majority of people who have problems with what she said are also woman. There's all this feminist talk going on in Hollywood right now and of course everyone is all over it but I have yet to see people who claim to be feminists actually realize that when they turn around a judge comments like those made by Alicia they are setting us a huge step back.

I don't like Jennifer Lawrence's acting or public persona, I think she's super overrated but somehow everything is working in her favor and she should enjoy it.

Well, like you said casting is influenced by more than talent sadly and that is obvious in some movies with some directors, it goes for both men and women but I don't believe it's what happens with Alicia. Not when the only major film she has been so far is The Man for Uncle. All her other movies have been low budget indies or Swedish films, only recently she started getting movies that are bound to bring more attention to her and most of them are a result from having already being the star of a very well received Oscar nominated movie, who happened to be an indie low budget Danish movie. If Michael had the same luck she had when he was her age his career would have sky rocked a lot sooner than it did,

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Regarding the bolded, it still astounds me that in this day and age, when women are making such strides, that most of the negative remarks about women on the net are by other women. Alicia is just one of many women who gets trashed daily by fellow women. And if a woman is successful, there seems to be great delight in taking her down.

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