Thanks Star. I was kind of wonder about the pleats in mizi canvas. I meant if you think about the material between the vienna leather and the canvas they both totally two different materials and textures. Of course I am not an expert at all but when you look at the two pictures together, the vienna pleats looks softer overall and the canvas looks a little stiff. But thanks for mentioning about this. This is why I love this place you got friends that help, share, share excitment and opinons about bags..just love it. By the way I am in the office right now and I can't believe I doing (this checking the blog). I will be picky when I see the mizi's pleats. I got to go..I check again at home.