I stalked the website for almost two weeks and finally this morning I got place in cart! I am not positive I am going to love it as much as the pm, but I can't go see it in a boutique so this is the only way to tell. I love my pm so much I have not carried another bag since purchasing and it goes everywhere, even on hikes! It's a great hiking bag, it is actually way more comfortable and stays on better than all the other made for hiking backpacks I've purchased. [emoji48][emoji1][emoji12][emoji177]