Kwanpen bags?

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#76
chkpfbeliever said:
Thank you for such lovely photos. I must say that the scale of these Kwanpen bags are so close to the real thing. I wonder why they don't get into trouble with H. Nevertheless, they are more affordable the H skins.
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Hi chkp... tried to reply to you pm but it says your mail box is full and you can't receive any mail till it is cleared... lol.
 
#80
I'm sorry but this is so weird - just because it doesn't bear the H name doesn't mean that they didn't literally rip off the whole design from H. So now just because they put a different name on it and it makes it okay and different from the rest of fakes (like the good grade fakes)? I think it's unfair - a design is an intellectual property and I don't think anyone should do this! :hrmm:
I don't mean to sound snobby/catty or anything, just my thoughts.
 
#81
nguyenp said:
I'm sorry but this is so weird - just because it doesn't bear the H name doesn't mean that they didn't literally rip off the whole design from H. So now just because they put a different name on it and it makes it okay and different from the rest of fakes (like the good grade fakes)? I think it's unfair - a design is an intellectual property and I don't think anyone should do this! :hrmm:
I don't mean to sound snobby/catty or anything, just my thoughts.
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I second this!
 
#83
nguyenp said:
I'm sorry but this is so weird - just because it doesn't bear the H name doesn't mean that they didn't literally rip off the whole design from H. So now just because they put a different name on it and it makes it okay and different from the rest of fakes (like the good grade fakes)? I think it's unfair - a design is an intellectual property and I don't think anyone should do this! :hrmm:
I don't mean to sound snobby/catty or anything, just my thoughts.
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i don't believe IP rights are applicable in fashion... hence the trend where you see all the designers converge on similar pattern and cutting season after season...

however, if it looks so identical that it can be passed off as Hermes, then it is riding on the coat tail of the marketing and branding power of Hermes. in this case, the "birkin" bag from Kwanpen, imho, does follow that.

i have just visited their store today and bought a few items. the croc skin are mostly niloticus and are very well made in gorgeous colors. upon closer inspection, a savvy H user would be able to tell that the "kwanpen birkin" is not hermes at all. however, most public probably wouldn't. so, it is up to each individual discretion and right (as a consumer) or whether s/he wants to buy the bag...
 
#84
ueynah said:
i don't believe IP rights are applicable in fashion... hence the trend where you see all the designers converge on similar pattern and cutting season after season...

however, if it looks so identical that it can be passed off as Hermes, then it is riding on the coat tail of the marketing and branding power of Hermes. in this case, the "birkin" bag from Kwanpen, imho, does follow that.

i have just visited their store today and bought a few items. the croc skin are mostly niloticus and are very well made in gorgeous colors. upon closer inspection, a savvy H user would be able to tell that the "kwanpen birkin" is not hermes at all. however, most public probably wouldn't. so, it is up to each individual discretion and right (as a consumer) or whether s/he wants to buy the bag...
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Correct. There had been several high profile fashion design court cases and none of the accusations got held up. You can't patent a design. Only branding is protected.

I also had looked at those bags last time I was in HK and I would consider buying one of their non B or K look-likes. The material and craftsmanship are very good. I'm not too excited about their hardware though. Not sure how it will hold up over time.
 
#85
xiangxiang0731 said:
Correct. There had been several high profile fashion design court cases and none of the accusations got held up. You can't patent a design. Only branding is protected.

I also had looked at those bags last time I was in HK and I would consider buying one of their non B or K look-likes. The material and craftsmanship are very good. I'm not too excited about their hardware though. Not sure how it will hold up over time.
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Actually Hermes has filed quite a few design patents:

http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/patog/week13/OG/html/1376-4/USD0656313-20120327.html

http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/patog/week35/OG/html/1369-5/USD0644024-20110830.html

http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/patog/week35/OG/html/1369-5/USD0644023-20110830.html

http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/patog/week20/OG/html/1378-3/USD0659391-20120515.html

http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/patog/week53/OG/html/1337-5/USD0583553-20081230.html

I don't know much (anything) about IP law, but recall reading that because Hermes didn't do anything when other companies first began copying the Kelly and Birkin designs, when they finally wanted to take action they had lost the right to do so. But I see they filed a patent for the Birkin in 2010 - and perhaps if they can prove that they were the first to introduce the design, it might hold up?
 
#87
Would love to see what goodies you got today from Kwanpen. While it is not to promote this brand on the Hermes forum, it is nice to know that there are alternative brands with good enough quality on exotic skins.

Also love to see the rainbow colors too !! :D

ueynah said:
i don't believe IP rights are applicable in fashion... hence the trend where you see all the designers converge on similar pattern and cutting season after season...

however, if it looks so identical that it can be passed off as Hermes, then it is riding on the coat tail of the marketing and branding power of Hermes. in this case, the "birkin" bag from Kwanpen, imho, does follow that.

i have just visited their store today and bought a few items. the croc skin are mostly niloticus and are very well made in gorgeous colors. upon closer inspection, a savvy H user would be able to tell that the "kwanpen birkin" is not hermes at all. however, most public probably wouldn't. so, it is up to each individual discretion and right (as a consumer) or whether s/he wants to buy the bag...
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#88
chkpfbeliever said:
Would love to see what goodies you got today from Kwanpen. While it is not to promote this brand on the Hermes forum, it is nice to know that there are alternative brands with good enough quality on exotic skins.

Also love to see the rainbow colors too !! :D
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Everything comes in ALL colors just that most of them are sold out and I only list out what was available on display.

Here are some pricing for the birkin-like bags in crocodile:
33cm - two tone RM24,400; one color RM22,800
31cm - RM20,500 (only saw yellow and red)

ostrich one size smaller than the 35-36cm is 29cm selling at RM7,200 (Orange, Red, Black and Brown)
 
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