Is Coach coming back up?/What about that Bowery Turnlock?

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#33
Daisy22 said:
Oh they may look good, but leather ages there's no getting around it. It's skin. I appreciate all bags if they are made well with good materials but boy that vintage LV canvas is crazy durable.
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Coated canvas is plastic, man made material, it ages as well, and can’t be restored once aged.
Coach vintage leather can be washed, conditioned and then restored.
Not to mention touching on plastic vs. soft leather is a huge difference.
 
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#34
katgoldatx said:
I get the idea that they are official counterfeit products. I once acquired an outlet Kate Spade and could not believe how terrible it was. The leather and lining felt awful. But, there are others (e.g. the Bowery in this thread) that make comments like, "The xxx bag is now moved to the outlet." This confuses me. Are companies making inferior products for their outlets (I'm guessing Kate Spade does) or does old stock get moved to the outlets? Does it differ from brand to brand? Is it a little of both??
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Coach makes handbags specifically for the outlet.
 
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My question is why we always have to have these debates of "which is better" and "who's making the better buy", etc.

Especially the statements prefaced with, essentially in spirit, "Why would anyone want to buy *that*?" :facepalm:

There are many members here who buy, love, and are loyal to *multiple* brands, including Coach and LV. Debates like this just alienate people. Seriously. One of the big reasons I don't hang around as much anymore.
Eh. Pfft.
 
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Alexa5 said:
Well yes, then you are in the wrong forum. Obviously most of us here really like Coach bags because we are posting our reveals and information in the Coach forum. Not to say that some do not buy LV here, and love it, as that is true too. But I wouldn't go over to the LV forum just to say, how can you like LV canvas? And as for how you can't imagine we could think the reverse of you? Well very easily--for me, I have no interest in a LV canvas bag, and I love my Coach leather bags.
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Lol, I knew my post was going to ruffle feathers. I like vintage and classic coach styles. They definitely stand the test of time. But it’s kind of like comparing a Honda to a Mercedes.
 
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#38
katgoldatx said:
Pardon that subject line; I don't mean for it to be offensive. I didn't know how else to say it.

I am a long-time vintage Coach girl. Recently, I've sold about 15 and bought a couple of LVs (I still have my favorite vintage Coach bags). I know lots of folks on and off tPF started to lean away from Coach for different reasons. To each her own, no judgment either way.

I was just watching an adorable YouTube from Labels for Lunch. She reviews the Coach Bowery Turnlock Crossbody. It's a super cute bag and her review is adorable.

She makes the case that Coach is at the moment low priced but really coming up in style and craftsmanship. (I have no opinion of modern Coaches since mine are all vintage). I wonder about your thoughts. Do you feel like Coach is coming back up? Did it ever go down? Do you agree with Labels for Lunch that in a few years, Coach is likely to be uber-hot and we will look back at today's prices as a great investment?

Am I making sense?

Also, what about that bag she has? It's very cute. I've looked around tPF and other Bowery cross body bags look different. They don't seem to have the studs. Hers is "cracking," as she says. :smile: Maybe it comes with and without? Someone, give me the details if you have them. I think her bag is great, but cannot find anything like it for sale. I did see one that was all black for about $200 (probably a good price).

Anyhoo, that was something of a ramble.

Thanks.
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Just wanted to add- I subscribe to Labels for Lunch. Love her videos! I have a Bowery as well and you are probably better off looking at the parker 18 (very similar style) since the Bowery has been phased out of retail.
 
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Alexa5 said:
This comes up in these Coach discussions a lot, and though I dislike having spent more on a bag that ends up at the outlets--I think there is a difference between buying Coach because a person wants to buy an elevated brand, and buying Coach because you love the handbag you purchased.

For most people in the real world, they carry a bag because they like how it looks, the quality, the function, etc. And I am the same way. I am not trying to buy a bag to show people I buy an elevated brand, though people think I do because most of them aren't carrying Coach or any other expensive brand. I am carrying the Coach bags I carry because I like them, and think they are beautiful.

So in my opinion, Coach can continue to mark down as much as they want, so I can afford to buy them. Because many of us would not buy without the sales. I do prefer the regular sales over the outlet situation, but that is because I am not near an outlet so I can never score on those anyway.
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Preach!
 
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momtok said:
My question is why we always have to have these debates of "which is better" and "who's making the better buy", etc.

Especially the statements prefaced with, essentially in spirit, "Why would anyone want to buy *that*?" :facepalm:

There are many members here who buy, love, and are loyal to *multiple* brands, including Coach and LV. Debates like this just alienate people. Seriously. One of the big reasons I don't hang around as much anymore.
Eh. Pfft.
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preach!
 
#41
Icing_Time said:
I assume this is a bit of an exaggeration :smile:, but there is seldom that big of a price drop when you resell coach, unless you got an extremely unpopular design/color way. There's also some stuff that I've been waiting for to go on sale, and it's been over half a year and it hasn't budged. I would also argue there's more complexity with selling expensive bags - you can either take the risk that some people will accuse you of selling/returning a fake to you, or you can allow res
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Icing_Time said:
I assume this is a bit of an exaggeration :smile:, but there is seldom that big of a price drop when you resell coach, unless you got an extremely unpopular design/color way. There's also some stuff that I've been waiting for to go on sale, and it's been over half a year and it hasn't budged. I would also argue there's more complexity with selling expensive bags - you can either take the risk that some people will accuse you of selling/returning a fake to you, or you can allow resellers to take a massive cut out of your sale. Coach, on the other hand, if kept in good condition, you can lose a modest hundred after you've used it for years, or even keep it as a workhorse. That's not that bad a deal, IMO.

Not all Coach products go on sale, and when they do, it tends to be the left over seasonal colors/prints. There are bags I have also missed out on that I would be willing to pay full price on. I don't make it to outlets, and I scour ebay, and even then they don't always resurface. My gripe with Coach is that they need some more refined styles with better quality. I loved it for the 1941 line and I wish that they would go more in on those. Unfortunately, a lot of people equate Coach with Coach Factory pricing, so they would never spend full price on a Coach bag. They would rather purchase something at the outlet - sometimes you get lucky with the boutique stuff, but otherwise it is to meet a bag fix (w/ trendier designs) rather than select something that they will use long term.
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All coach will go on sale. In time. I always purchase all my FP items from the outlet. No reason for ME to pay FP when I know they will be on sooner or later
 
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momtok said:
My question is why we always have to have these debates of "which is better" and "who's making the better buy", etc.

Especially the statements prefaced with, essentially in spirit, "Why would anyone want to buy *that*?" :facepalm:

There are many members here who buy, love, and are loyal to *multiple* brands, including Coach and LV. Debates like this just alienate people. Seriously. One of the big reasons I don't hang around as much anymore.
Eh. Pfft.
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This!
 
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Daisy22 said:
Vintage LV canvas is freaking amazing. It's indestructible. I have a 30 year old Saumur 43 that will look the same in another 30 years I can't say the same for my 25 year old Coach duffles although they are great too.
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I totally agree with this. All of my remaining LV's that are canvas are "vintage" - at least 15 years old. The oldest is from 1994...it's a few years younger than I am but man, does it look brand new! No vachetta on this particular bag either so you can barely tell its age.
Haven't purchased a new LV for a long, long time but I was at a boutique recently and felt the new canvas, I was not as impressed.

For me, LV and Coach both have a place in my collection. I wear my Coach bags more care free because of the lower price point. I'm the type of person who will buy something if I like it, so whether Coach goes to the outlet doesn't really matter to me. There have been a few styles recently that have really spoken (Parker, Bowery, and now the Frame bag) to me after a few years of not. The last styles I purchased were the Madison and Sadies.

The two companies have such different price points, I don't feel it's really fair to compare them as apples to apples. I'm biased though...I'm currently planning 2 purchases in the near future, one Coach and one LV so clearly I love both haha!
 
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