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Hi...

I got offer from local market place for Balenciaga Grafitti.
I never seen it before. She told me this is authentic.
Kindly please help to check whether or not it's authentic
The photos are terrible but I'm not keen on what I can make out. If you want to get good pics and post on the correct thread we can take another look but I wouldn't rush out to buy it without doing so.

https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/authenticate-this-balenciaga.936807/page-858#post-33168515
i'll save you time - this bag is fake, please, avoid
 
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What do you think @ksuromax? I had a plomb WE and to my eye this is a bit too light, although it could be the lighting. Maybe anthra?
Here are a couple of pics of mine, check the colour of the mirror in the second pic as the bag itself is a bit faded. Plomb is a true lead colour, like the lead in a pencil. OP's bag looks more grey to me.

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yes, agree, it does not look like Plomb, and it does not look like Anthra either.
on my screen it looks more like painted over rather than original colour :confused:
 
yes, agree, it does not look like Plomb, and it does not look like Anthra either.
on my screen it looks more like painted over rather than original colour :confused1:
You know, I wondered about that. Going back for another look. EDIT: Took another look and reserve judgement. Good job if it’s a recolour. There are some areas that look really smooth, which does look like a possible repaint but I can’t tell for sure.
 
What colour is my courier? Sooooo when I got this bag, i had first hoped it was a 08 black cherry because of the red tone from the pics, but after comparing the bag to another brown day with red tone underneath, i thought, this is actually a lot more brown and may be a '10 Castagna. But today I learned that in 2008 f/w Balenciaga discontinued the pocket behind the mirror and I went to check and I have a pocket! Now I'm really confused!

The courier was released in 2006 but I can't seem to find a color in the colorchart that matches! The leather is nowhere as hydrated as my 07 very foncé and I would not think the 06 olive brown would have red undertone. The 07 and 08 truffle doesn't seem right either, and neither does the Tabac. I put the bag next to my vert foncé courier and I'm sure this bag isn't fake. I'm really at a loss!

I don't think its he 07 tabac or truffle
 

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What colour is my courier? Sooooo when I got this bag, i had first hoped it was a 08 black cherry because of the red tone from the pics, but after comparing the bag to another brown day with red tone underneath, i thought, this is actually a lot more brown and may be a '10 Castagna. But today I learned that in 2008 f/w Balenciaga discontinued the pocket behind the mirror and I went to check and I have a pocket! Now I'm really confused!

The courier was released in 2006 but I can't seem to find a color in the colorchart that matches! The leather is nowhere as hydrated as my 07 very foncé and I would not think the 06 olive brown would have red undertone. The 07 and 08 truffle doesn't seem right either, and neither does the Tabac. I put the bag next to my vert foncé courier and I'm sure this bag isn't fake. I'm really at a loss!

I don't think its he 07 tabac or truffle

Your first picture looks like '07 F/W Mogano (mahogany) to me. Balenciaga colors are the hardest to photograph. Even from the same year/season, the leather on bags can differ.
 
Your first picture looks like '07 F/W Mogano (mahogany) to me. Balenciaga colors are the hardest to photograph. Even from the same year/season, the leather on bags can differ.

Thank you!!

Geez! I think you're right! I just went to check out the mogano clubhouse and bal_fanatic has a photo of a courier that looks exactly like mine! It's pretty brown when not in direct daylight.
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I had ruled out mogano because compared to the vert fonce and the brownish red day, the leather is not soft or chewy at all, and seems so thirsty. Also some other pics I've seen of the mogano appeared more brown with less red. Who would have thought I now am the proud owner of a coveted 07 mogano!! Both my couriers are from 2007!

Time to figure out what colour is my Day!
 
yes, agree, it does not look like Plomb, and it does not look like Anthra either.
on my screen it looks more like painted over rather than original colour :confused1:
Hmmm if it’s painted on, won’t it be quite obvious especially in the interior parts—unless someone really did a good job of recoloring even in the tiniest corners. I asked the previous owner and she said no recoloring was made. It doesn’t look like it was recolored in real life though—especially since I have yet to see someone recolor a Balenciaga with utmost perfection lol. I’ll try to take more decent photos under better lighting. Maybe the colors would be better? It doesn’t seem like Anthra, since isn’t Anthra supposed to be a bit greenish black? Also, which areas are tell-tale signs of recoloring? May try to take some decent pics as well.

For leather type, is there a way to determine if it’s Chevre or Agneau? Were there ever Agneau PTs with feet?
 
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Hmmm if it’s painted on, won’t it be quite obvious especially in the interior parts—unless someone really did a good job of recoloring even in the tiniest corners. I asked the previous owner and she said no recoloring was made. It doesn’t look like it was recolored in real life though—especially since I have yet to see someone recolor a Balenciaga with utmost perfection lol. I’ll try to take more decent photos under better lighting. Maybe the colors would be better? It doesn’t seem like Anthra, since isn’t Anthra supposed to be a bit greenish black? Also, which areas are tell-tale signs of recoloring? May try to take some decent pics as well.

For leather type, is there a way to determine if it’s Chevre or Agneau? Were there ever Agneau PTs with feet?
My understanding is that feet were on the PT in 07 and S/S 08 so it’s very likely chevre. Anthra can have green undertones, blue, or be a true grey. I’m going with anthra on this one but it’s just my opinion.
 
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@Elizaenchanted check carefully around the hardware, you can often see a bit of paint there if it’s recoloured. Also the whip stitching on the handles. Are the interior parts of the leather exactly the same colour as the exterior? Some outside pics would be great.
 
Hmmm if it’s painted on, won’t it be quite obvious especially in the interior parts—unless someone really did a good job of recoloring even in the tiniest corners. I asked the previous owner and she said no recoloring was made. It doesn’t look like it was recolored in real life though—especially since I have yet to see someone recolor a Balenciaga with utmost perfection lol. I’ll try to take more decent photos under better lighting. Maybe the colors would be better? It doesn’t seem like Anthra, since isn’t Anthra supposed to be a bit greenish black? Also, which areas are tell-tale signs of recoloring? May try to take some decent pics as well.

For leather type, is there a way to determine if it’s Chevre or Agneau? Were there ever Agneau PTs with feet?
@Elizaenchanted check carefully around the hardware, you can often see a bit of paint there if it’s recoloured. Also the whip stitching on the handles. Are the interior parts of the leather exactly the same colour as the exterior? Some outside pics would be great.

Chiming in w my 2¢ here - might this bag just be black? The zipper tape and the handle threading appear to be straight black, which I feel like is unique to black bags?
 
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Chiming in w my 2¢ here - might this bag just be black? The zipper tape and the handle threading appear to be straight black, which I feel like is unique to black bags?
This is where I hate trying to figure colour out from pics. :lol: Valid point about the black but were there some years where the whipstitching and zipper tape was darker on anthra bags? I can't say...? Some outdoor pics of the bag would help, in some pics it looks blacker but in some it deffo has a grey cast to it.:confused1:
 
Thanks, everyone! Yes, now that you’ve mentioned it.. it could be black. I’m just out for work now but will take some photos of the bag under various lighting over the weekend so we can solve this mystery once and for all
Pics outside in various light is best. Try one in bright sunlight, one not in shade necessarily but not in direct light.
 
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