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I have occasionally seen Willis bags with a style number FO9927 instead of 9927 - but the bags don't look fake to me. Here's an example of a FO9927 bag at the link below that was sold on Tradesy, do you agree that it is authentic? If so, can you explain the reason or the FO designation in the style number? Thanks!

https://www.tradesy.com/i/coach-willis-crossbody-shoulder-black-leather-messenger-bag/25238769/
It's not FO. It's F0 (zero).

The remakes of the classic bags came after Coach was using 5-digit style numbers. In order to fit the pattern, they added the "0" in front of the style number to make it 5 digits.

"F" indicates that it was MFF.
Style number is 09927.
 
It's not FO. It's F0 (zero).

The remakes of the classic bags came after Coach was using 5-digit style numbers. In order to fit the pattern, they added the "0" in front of the style number to make it 5 digits.

"F" indicates that it was MFF.
Style number is 09927.

Thanks, now I understand!

Of course I know that an F in front of the style number means Made for Factory but I guess it never occurred to me that a Willis 9927 could be a MFF bag! Thanks again.
 
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I am puzzled by one of my bags. It's a small backpack style 4152 and the strap drop when used as a crossbody is.. wait for it.. 34"! I have other 4152 bags in different colors and none of those have such long straps! Idk what to think of it. Lol!
 

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I am puzzled by one of my bags. It's a small backpack style 4152 and the strap drop when used as a crossbody is.. wait for it.. 34"! I have other 4152 bags in different colors and none of those have such long straps! Idk what to think of it. Lol!
I assume that is to make it long enough to make backpack straps. If you thread it through the loop on the bottom back, I imagine it would have to be very long to make two arm straps. Maybe they put the wrong strap on that particular one in the factory.
 
I am puzzled by one of my bags. It's a small backpack style 4152 and the strap drop when used as a crossbody is.. wait for it.. 34"! I have other 4152 bags in different colors and none of those have such long straps! Idk what to think of it. Lol!

I assume that is to make it long enough to make backpack straps. If you thread it through the loop on the bottom back, I imagine it would have to be very long to make two arm straps. Maybe they put the wrong strap on that particular one in the factory.

That makes sense. Here's a catalog shot showing it worn crossbody on a model (most fashion models are on the tall side.)
4152 Soho Bantam Bag Banana Pear Coral Chambray Spring Preview 1995.jpg
 
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View attachment 4686922 View attachment 4686923 View attachment 4686924 View attachment 4686925 Hello everyone. So I bought this slim makeup case on Poshmark. Thinking it was pretty old since it did not have the blue tic lining. But after receiving it I am started to question it. The ball chain is magnetic although it just might not match.... any thoughts.
It is extremely hard to authenticate these. I've never seen one without the lining. I doubt they made them that way. The hangtag is questionable. If it was extremely old, it wouldn't be that shape. The size and proportions of the case are off. Catalog says it is 7 1/2 inches by 4 inches, and the one I have in my possession is that size. The leather looks too shiny. Here is a picture of what it should look like. While I can't say that it is definitely fake, I wouldn't want to keep it and I wouldn't resell it.

In the future, post authentication requests in the correct thread in the shopping section of the forum. This thread is for identifying styles you know are authentic.
 

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View attachment 4686922 View attachment 4686923 View attachment 4686924 View attachment 4686925 Hello everyone. So I bought this slim makeup case on Poshmark. Thinking it was pretty old since it did not have the blue tic lining. But after receiving it I am started to question it. The ball chain is magnetic although it just might not match.... any thoughts.

It is extremely hard to authenticate these. I've never seen one without the lining. I doubt they made them that way. The hangtag is questionable. If it was extremely old, it wouldn't be that shape. The size and proportions of the case are off. Catalog says it is 7 1/2 inches by 4 inches, and the one I have in my possession is that size. The leather looks too shiny. Here is a picture of what it should look like. While I can't say that it is definitely fake, I wouldn't want to keep it and I wouldn't resell it.

In the future, post authentication requests in the correct thread in the shopping section of the forum. This thread is for identifying styles you know are authentic.
I agree with @whateve. I'd return it too.

It's definitely not 7170, I believe the hang tag is fake, the ball chain isn't original (though not necessarily indicative of the item it's on being fake) and if the lining had been cut out and removed, you'd see evidence of it.

My 7170 skinny case not only had ticking lining but had a creed without a serial number.

The catalog description describes it has having striped lining.
coach 7170 skinny case 7215 squeeze keycase 7225 travel case spring 1989 preview accessories.jpg
 
I agree with @whateve. I'd return it too.

It's definitely not 7170, I believe the hang tag is fake, the ball chain isn't original (though not necessarily indicative of the item it's on being fake) and if the lining had been cut out and removed, you'd see evidence of it.

My 7170 skinny case not only had ticking lining but had a creed without a serial number.

The catalog description describes it has having striped lining.
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Has anyone actual seen one without the lining?
 
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