Oh my God! Woah! Bonnie was an icon. I would have died if I found thoes!
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Hyacinth very kindly just authenticated this, and I'm really wondering what it is? Measurements are: length-10, width-3.5, height-8.25. Strap is 44 inches. I was actually pretty convinced it wasn't genuine because I've never seen anything like it before from Coach.
Any information is greatly appreciated!
Any information is greatly appreciated!
What an amazing find! May we see some pics of the other Bonnie bag that you found, too?
Here is the link for the Bonnie Cashin archive at UCLA and it contains a lot sketches of Bonnie's designs, search for Coach:
http://digital2.library.ucla.edu/viewItem.do?ark=21198/zz0002bk1c
Check the Rehab and Rescue thread in the Clubhouse of this forum to ask for advice on rehabbing the bag. I only have one small Bonnie Coach bag but you can see the rehab at the link below. I didn't spend much money on this bag and that made it a little easier for me to take bold steps to rehab the bag - but it came out well.
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/proof-that-a-50-yr-old-lady-can-still-be-beautiful-rehab-reveal.742282/
My apologies if not the right thread, my question is about serial numbers, not an item.
I have read the Salearea Guides that say in this part....
"Once serial numbers began to be used, they originally had 7 numbers with the abbreviation for Number "No" in front (serials without that "No" in front usually mean Korean-made fakes), then 3 numbers, a dash, and 4 more numbers (No 123-4567). Somewhere around 1989-1990 they changed to 4 numbers, the dash and 3 numbers (No 1234-567) and this format was used until 1994."
so if I understand correctly..
The numbers in format XXX - XXXX were used in the 1980s
The ones in format XXXX - XXX started on 1989 till 1994
But there is this post about a Roll Bag 9887 with serial 045 - 7117, that was authenticated and dated from the early 90s.
I also have a Roll Bag serial 010 - 5011 that was authenticated here and told it was from 1991. Am I understanding this backwards?
I have read the Salearea Guides that say in this part....
"Once serial numbers began to be used, they originally had 7 numbers with the abbreviation for Number "No" in front (serials without that "No" in front usually mean Korean-made fakes), then 3 numbers, a dash, and 4 more numbers (No 123-4567). Somewhere around 1989-1990 they changed to 4 numbers, the dash and 3 numbers (No 1234-567) and this format was used until 1994."
so if I understand correctly..
The numbers in format XXX - XXXX were used in the 1980s
The ones in format XXXX - XXX started on 1989 till 1994
But there is this post about a Roll Bag 9887 with serial 045 - 7117, that was authenticated and dated from the early 90s.
I also have a Roll Bag serial 010 - 5011 that was authenticated here and told it was from 1991. Am I understanding this backwards?
That's from the Creeds Guide. When I updated and corrected the Guides last year I corrected the Serial Number guide but apparently not the Creeds Guide. the serial Number Guide (#4) immediately following the Creeds Guide, 5th paragraph, says:
"Changes came in the late 1980s. Along with a change of ownership, Coach also made changes to both the creeds and the serial numbers. Starting in 1988, instead of the “Made in New York City, U.S.A.” stamp, the addition of new plants meant a change in the creed to “Made in the United States” or "Made in the U.S.A." up until the early 1990s when off-shore plants in Italy and Costa Rica were added and the wording changed again to show the country. The serial number also changed during the 1989-1990 period and now was “No” followed by FOUR numbers, a dash and three more numbers, although some bags from 1991-1992 still have the old 3+4 number format for some reason."
A few early 1990s serials still use the old 3+4 format, and no, I don't know why.
It looks like the Kristin Crossbody 45128 SV BK. I have one and use it a lot - it is a great choice when I only want to carry the minimal essentials, see the link below for pics:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...-carrying-today.913052/page-656#post-31480798
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Thank you for the explanation. I know that with Coach there are many inconsistencies, so it's hard at least for those of us that are trying to learn, from time to time we realize that there is much more to it, than to understand the serial numbers.
For a long time I have been thinking the 4 - 3 numbers were the oldest (80s) and the 3 - 4 numbers were the newer ones (late 80s till 94), it made more sense to me, because the style numbers had 4 digits, till they started to use the F in front.
I guess, I will have to keep bothering you, the kind authenticators when in doubt. Thanks again.
Can a bag like this be dunked...the one Im looking at has a really dirty lining..and its small isnt it...size of a large wristlet?
If I bought it I wouldn’t hesitate to Dunk it. It certainly looks dirty. I’d say it’s more like a swingpack size, A little bigger than a large wristlet but still small.
They dont come with a creed do they?..am awaiting a picture of the white tag if it has one.
From what I remember, I don't think any Kristins came with the small white tag in the pocket, since the last Kristin styles came out around 2013 and Coach didn't start using the small white tags in place of stamped serial numbers until some time in 2014.
ETA - Here's what looks like an identical bag except for the metallic leather
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Kris...988939?hash=item443969760b:g:ls4AAOSwfvtb8K4I
Style number is listed as F48986 but I don't think that's the right style number. All other listings for that number show a different pattern in the decorative seams on the front.
I've found several other listings for the same style, but none of them have a style number in the listing.
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