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Thankyou so much!! I love it. Do you happen to know the years that coach did not apply the style numbers to the creeds? I see this bag elsewhere and they have the style number. Not sure if mine is older or younger than those
Your bag was made between 1990-1993. Style numbers started appearing on creeds in 1994. Unique serial numbers were used from the late 70s until 1994.
There is more information here: http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-Serial-Numbers-the-Basic-Facts-/10000000034886433/g.html
 
Thankyou so much!! I love it. Do you happen to know the years that coach did not apply the style numbers to the creeds? I see this bag elsewhere and they have the style number. Not sure if mine is older or younger than those

Your bag was made between 1990-1993. Style numbers started appearing on creeds in 1994. Unique serial numbers were used from the late 70s until 1994.
There is more information here: http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-Serial-Numbers-the-Basic-Facts-/10000000034886433/g.html

Your early 90s bag's serial number is an example of this, mentioned in Hyacinth's very useful guide linked by whateve above:

"Up until the end of the 1990s, the serial numbers were mostly hand-stamped using a mechanism that allowed the operator to change numbers quickly, and often in early Coaches you can see the top or bottom of the next number in line above or below the actual serial number."
 
Hi,

I have a COACH Madison 'Smythe' Bag

the Serial No. G1482 32405 is not on the leather creed but on a very small white tag in the inside pocket. Is the white tag right? I read it should be clear? It also says made in China.

What I've been able to decipher is that it was made in July (G) in 2014 (14) with unknown manufacturing plant (82?).

There is a smooth silver hang tag that just has COACH with new york underneath that.

The lining is a similar dark gray compared to the 'mink' color with almost invisible coach on the lining upside down and backwards.

Are these authentic markers?

PS How do I send photos?
 
Hi,

I have a COACH Madison 'Smythe' Bag

the Serial No. G1482 32405 is not on the leather creed but on a very small white tag in the inside pocket. Is the white tag right? I read it should be clear? It also says made in China.

What I've been able to decipher is that it was made in July (G) in 2014 (14) with unknown manufacturing plant (82?).

There is a smooth silver hang tag that just has COACH with new york underneath that.

The lining is a similar dark gray compared to the 'mink' color with almost invisible coach on the lining upside down and backwards.

Are these authentic markers?

PS How do I send photos?

The FAQs section should have that information. And to ask for authenticity opinions you need to post in the Authenticate This Coach thread in the Coach Shopping forum. Follow the instructions in Post number One of that thread. NOTHING can be authenticated without photos.

The tags you described sound correct for the bag but that doesn't mean it's genuine.
 
I'm wondering about this bag. It appears to be a NYC Stewardess variant with the little window ID slot inside (instead of small slip pocket) and an airline-issued strap. The inside is brown but the outside is black. I assume it's been dyed?

ETA: the link

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-Coa...577174?hash=item3f5e369d56:g:ToAAAOSwAuNW4RQe
Yes, it's been dyed. It looks like one of the stewardesses made for an airline. There is a comparison of the airline stewardess and the regular stewardess in the reference library, vintage thread.
 
I'm wondering about this bag. It appears to be a NYC Stewardess variant with the little window ID slot inside (instead of small slip pocket) and an airline-issued strap. The inside is brown but the outside is black. I assume it's been dyed?

ETA: the link

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-Coa...577174?hash=item3f5e369d56:g:ToAAAOSwAuNW4RQe

Yes, it's been dyed. It looks like one of the stewardesses made for an airline. There is a comparison of the airline stewardess and the regular stewardess in the reference library, vintage thread.

The seller " sooperdeals! " isn't above stretching the truth either, or actually misrepresenting an item's history.

The listing says "100% Authentic purchased in Coach NY $189", making it sound like they bought it themselves from Coach. But if it was made for one of the airlines, they couldn't have. It would have been bought by the airline or maybe by the flight attendant through the airline, and then the original airline employee or another owner after her would have done the dyeing, unless the seller did that him/herself and didn't disclose it.

And there's no mention at all of the re-dyeing or the fact that the original strap has been replaced - this one has a pebbled leather surface on at least one side - so if originally had been stamped with the emblem of one of the airlines, that's long gone. Also my 1985 catalog lists the Stewardess retail price as $138 ($144 in 1986, $146 in 1987, and there's NO possible way it could be more recent with an NYC creed)), NOT $189.

Too bad they "fibbed", the actual story of the bag and the style is so much more interesting than the baloney they posted. And too bad the bag's original character has vanished along with the original surface and the strap.
 
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Yes, it's been dyed. It looks like one of the stewardesses made for an airline. There is a comparison of the airline stewardess and the regular stewardess in the reference library, vintage thread.

Yes, I remember seeing that. Thanks!

Yes,
The seller " sooperdeals! " isn't above stretching the truth either, or actually misrepresenting an item's history.

The listing says "100% Authentic purchased in Coach NY $189", making it sound like they bought it themselves from Coach. But if it was made for one of the airlines, they couldn't have. It would have been bought by the airline or maybe by the flight attendant through the airline, and then the original airline employee or another owner after her would have done the dyeing, unless the seller did that him/herself and didn't disclose it.

And there's no mention at all of the re-dyeing or the fact that the original strap has been replaced - this one has a pebbled leather surface on at least one side - so if originally had been stamped with the emblem of one of the airlines, that's long gone. Also my 1985 catalog lists the Stewardess retail price as $138 ($144 in 1986, $146 in 1987, and there's NO possible way it could be more recent with an NYC creed)), NOT $189.

Too bad they "fibbed", the actual story of the bag and the style is so much more interesting than the baloney they posted. And too bad the bag's original character has vanished along with the original surface and the strap.

It's sad about the dye, and the made-up price story. These beautiful vintage bags have stories to tell, if we let them.
 
I'm wondering what the name of this bag is. (If more pictures are needed, please let me know.)

Measurements:
Approx. 5.5" wide (across bottom) x 8.5" wide (across widest part near top) x 6.5" high x 2" deep

Strap: about 23" drop
One inside pocket

Thanks in advance.
 

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I'm wondering what the name of this bag is. (If more pictures are needed, please let me know.)

Measurements:
Approx. 5.5" wide (across bottom) x 8.5" wide (across widest part near top) x 6.5" high x 2" deep

Strap: about 23" drop
One inside pocket

Thanks in advance.

It's a Minetta Zip, style 4123 from the Lightweight line, 1992-93. Cute little bag for Spring, where did you find it?

Coach went crazy for mini bags in 1993, I think they tried every geometric shape and color they could think of. They made so many different minis that I think they saturated the market.
 

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