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#7,865
Hyacinth said:
That's a tough one. Older Coach strap hardware was never marked, and this is probably from 8 to 10 or more years ago just going by the clip since Coach phased out those trigger-snap clips years ago except for a handful of classic styles like the original Willis.. That folded-over look at the strap ends was fairly common on straps from maybe 2000-2005.

I'll check through my old catalogs when there's time, meanwhile maybe someone will recognise it. It looks like it has blue or navy contrast stitching so we'd probably be looking for a style that came in some combination of white, tan and blue.

How long is the strap, end to end?
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mrk2014 said:
The strap including the hardware is 48 1/2 inches.

And thanks for your reply, already a big help to know that you believe is Coach, as I was told.
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Thanks. I checked my catalogs from 2000 to around 2006 and haven't been able to find a style that it could have belonged to, but it's possible that it's from an older style, or a newer one I don't have in a catalog, or a style that was made for the Factory outlets.

Let's hope someone else has some ideas.
 
#7,867
junesue said:
Is the coach pheobe 25635 with horse and carriage logo in chestnut rare? More valuable than 24261 only word coach logo? Thanks :)


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It appears that only one color came with the horse and carriage, which might account for them being more rare. I wonder if Coach did this as a test to see whether the presence of the horse and carriage made a difference to buyers. What they are worth is up to the buyer.
 
#7,869
Hyacinth said:
Thanks. I checked my catalogs from 2000 to around 2006 and haven't been able to find a style that it could have belonged to, but it's possible that it's from an older style, or a newer one I don't have in a catalog, or a style that was made for the Factory outlets.

Let's hope someone else has some ideas.
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Thank you so much for taking the time to look. If someone else has some ideas it will be great, if not at least I am happy to know I was not lied to. :smile1:
 
#7,872
Two.time.bags said:
Has the seller described this accurately, please? There's no creed shot.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-70s...SA-/221365410947?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:3160
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She might have some of it right. It's not from the 70s. It looks like a Bistro bag, #4125. It was part of the Manhattan collection, which came out around 1993. I wonder if this one is from 1994 and has a style number in the creed, since the seller doesn't seem to have enough knowledge to figure it out by herself.
 
#7,873
whateve said:
She might have some of it right. It's not from the 70s. It looks like a Bistro bag, #4125. It was part of the Manhattan collection, which came out around 1993. I wonder if this one is from 1994 and has a style number in the creed, since the seller doesn't seem to have enough knowledge to figure it out by herself.
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Thanks Whateve. The style number is listed in the description down the bottom, so the seller either doesn't know how to read the first part of the serial number or is being deliberately deceptive about the age.
 
#7,874
Two.time.bags said:
Thanks Whateve. The style number is listed in the description down the bottom, so the seller either doesn't know how to read the first part of the serial number or is being deliberately deceptive about the age.
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I think a lot of sellers know the part after the dash is the style number, but not much else. That is why you see so many pre-1994 bags listed with the digits after the dash included in the title. They have no idea it is a random number. There is also a tendency for sellers to assume that anything that isn't lined is from the 70s.
 
#7,875
junesue said:
Is the coach pheobe 25635 with horse and carriage logo in chestnut rare? More valuable than 24261 only word coach logo? Thanks :)


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Yes, definitely more rare here in the US. It appears that the Phoebes with the horse and carriage emblem were either pilot bags, or an early run of the style, and they appear to have only been released to Coach Asia in the original retail run.

One of the marketing photos on Coach.com when Phoebe was first introduced featured a side view of a black Phoebe with the horse and carriage emblem, but none of the bags sold here in the US had it, so many of us here were intrigued. A small number of them in Chestnut were released later through Coach factory online sale here in the US and they sold out very quickly. The style number of the Chestnut was different, and was an Asia exclusive, but besides the logo, there was no difference whatsoever between it and the US version, 24621.

As for more valuable? That's very hard to quantify, because purses aren't really valued like collector items such as figurines, etc. Buy a bag you love and enjoy - there's no way to ever guarantee the value of a purse will hold regardless of the brand.
 
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