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I just noticed on the wayback machine that the purse I have been calling Gracie, #4417, is actually called the Biltmore bag. What is the difference between the Biltmore and the Gracie?
 
The Gracie (4413) is a little bit smaller than the Biltmore. Check out this thread:
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/coach-made-in-italy-44543-2.html#post7933793
Thank you! I have always heard the 4413 called the small Gracie and 4417 called the regular Gracie. I'm sure it is one of those things that just got perpetuated - once one person started calling it Gracie, everyone else copied. I think I assumed it was a Gracie because that is what the seller called it. It seems even more elegant now that I know it is a Biltmore.
 
Thank you! I have always heard the 4413 called the small Gracie and 4417 called the regular Gracie. I'm sure it is one of those things that just got perpetuated - once one person started calling it Gracie, everyone else copied. I think I assumed it was a Gracie because that is what the seller called it. It seems even more elegant now that I know it is a Biltmore.
You're welcome! Yeah, I've seen it listed on eBay as Gracie Biltmore. I have a Biltmore, too.
 
Calling on the most experienced TPFer.....I have asked before to no avail for this bag to be identified. It has to be from the late 70's early 80's so I can't understand why no one knows what this bag is. I recently sent the request to Coach and am awaiting to hear back. I also ran across it in a picture on Google of the archives. Here it is:

The first picture is of the tan large bag, what I call a legacy and is on the 3rd shelf to the far right - Picture 1

I also own the same type of leather tote pictured, same line, you can tell, same baseball leather - My avatar Coach-Archives-00004.jpg

Black XL Legacy.jpg

And then I also own the black XL bag like the tan one pictured

Does anyone know the name of these bags and when they came out? Can anyone help me :D
 
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No, the bags are from the 70's and 80's so no creed. I did call Coach today and they did confirm it's a legacy....I guess I'll just go with that.

Maybe from the early 70s? Coach started using creeds in the mid to late 70s: http://reviews.ebay.com/Coach-Serial-Numbers-the-Basic-Facts?ugid=10000000034886433

You might try creating a thread in the forum asking for help identifying a bag. I did that for a bag that mystified all the experts and I got the answer and lots of info very quickly! See the link below:
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/i-need-tpf-help-to-identify-mystery-bag-779681.html

Good luck!
 
No, the bags are from the 70's and 80's so no creed. I did call Coach today and they did confirm it's a legacy....I guess I'll just go with that.
They do look similar to the Legacy satchels from the 90's. Unless someone has a catalog from that era, I don't think you will ever find out. It's a shame you didn't get more help from Coach.
 

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Calling on the most experienced TPFer.....I have asked before to no avail for this bag to be identified. It has to be from the late 70's early 80's so I can't understand why no one knows what this bag is. I recently sent the request to Coach and am awaiting to hear back. I also ran across it in a picture on Google of the archives. Here it is:

The first picture is of the tan large bag, what I call a legacy and is on the 3rd shelf to the far right - Picture 1

I also own the same type of leather tote pictured, same line, you can tell, same baseball leather - My avatar View attachment 2120517

View attachment 2120518

And then I also own the black XL bag like the tan one pictured

Does anyone know the name of these bags and when they came out? Can anyone help me :D

I don't know them, but I strongly suggest that you post measurements along with more photos including front, back and sides plus any areas on the inside with pockets, stamps or tags.
 
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